Politics

[Not in Crawley]

44 minutes ago, royal white said:

Wasn’t A lot of what you mentioned in their previous manifesto? If so why isn’t being delivered? 

In a year? I like the white papers on affordable housing, education is tricky and wasn't contained in the manifesto to the level I personally wanted, but you have to make peace that there are other issues to be looked at first.

See, its a complicated thing running a country. Looking for simple fixes isnt how its done.

Would i think the Conservatives would do better, not in their current state, have I heard any actual realistic policies from Reform, not yet.

But...you can be active with the activists or sleeping with the sleepers 😉

[little whitt]

3 hours ago, deeane Koontz said:

Burnham should definitely be the next Labour leader. He seems somewhat human.

Not Even a MP 

 

[royal white]

3 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

In a year? I like the white papers on affordable housing, education is tricky and wasn't contained in the manifesto to the level I personally wanted, but you have to make peace that there are other issues to be looked at first.

See, its a complicated thing running a country. Looking for simple fixes isnt how its done.

Would i think the Conservatives would do better, not in their current state, have I heard any actual realistic policies from Reform, not yet.

But...you can be active with the activists or sleeping with the sleepers 😉

Last I read was they’re way behind in building new affordable homes. You said you would rather them focus on other areas before boats. Are they not capable of working in multiple areas? 

[Zico]

1 hour ago, mickbrown said:

The video of the bloke from the Green Party in Clacton was illuminating 

Can you point me in it's direction? 

Been looking but this is all I've found

 

 

 

[gonzo]

The boats are a tiny problem in the grand scheme of things.

However it's by far and wide the single biggest issue the government have to deal with to stay in office.

 

[little whitt]

[Not in Crawley]

22 minutes ago, royal white said:

Last I read was they’re way behind in building new affordable homes. You said you would rather them focus on other areas before boats. Are they not capable of working in multiple areas? 

I dont working in Whitehall, just a simple ticket tout. But I have read the white paper for the policy which is going before the HoC and I do support that.

So in answer, yes they do, but if unless you want inflatable houses on parks; it takes a bit of time - like all legislation.

[BobyBrno]

43 minutes ago, burnden said:

 

Happy with that. 👍

[Not in Crawley]

12 minutes ago, gonzo said:

The boats are a tiny problem in the grand scheme of things.

However it's by far and wide the single biggest issue the government have to deal with to stay in office.

 

Yeah its a huge political but not societal problem.

 

[Casino]

4 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Happy with that. 👍

Just so long as i can have it on my phone!

[BobyBrno]

36 minutes ago, royal white said:

Last I read was they’re way behind in building new affordable homes. You said you would rather them focus on other areas before boats. Are they not capable of working in multiple areas? 

Yep. 1.5 million over 5 years was nonsense. That’s 300,000 a year. House building actually went down in the last twelve months. The estimate now is for 350,000+  a year to fulfil their promise. It ain’t going to happen. Like all the other pledges. 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

The small boat crossings is absolutely a societal issue, as the protests outside hotels accommodating asylum seekers and last summer's riots show

Edited September 25, 2025 by Lt. Aldo Raine

[gonzo]

12 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Yeah its a huge political but not societal problem.

 

It is for a lot of people.

It's also used by a lot of people It isn't.

[Cheese]

2 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

Its not, its going to be really sad and, like brexit, another bit of self harm.

Nah, it's going to be funny as fuck. No sympathy at all from me.

[BobyBrno]

33 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Yeah its a huge political but not societal problem.

 

Not in Kent obviously.

[Not in Crawley]

5 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Not in Kent obviously.

Yes in Kent - where do you think the boats land 😂

[frank_spencer]

Sticking up for NIC I assume he was meaning the perception of the issue is bigger than the issue itself.

[Not in Crawley]

27 minutes ago, gonzo said:

It is for a lot of people.

It's also used by a lot of people It isn't.

Again, thats economics- poorer local councils took the money for being gateway town due to austerity. It was a way of funding basic local systems. 

Why are these towns poor? Is it because of immigration, or is it because of years of underinvestment? Lack of opportunities and therefore the boring but inevitable brain drain to bigger cities with more opportunities?

[Not in Crawley]

17 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Nah, it's going to be funny as fuck. No sympathy at all from me.

Thats a bit Bolty-esque to be fair. 

Its high handed and these are your fellow country people - if we dismiss we all lose.

[frank_spencer]

Just now, Not in Crawley said:

Again, thats economics- poorer local councils took the money for being gateway town due to austerity. It was a way of funding basic local systems. 

Why are these towns poor? Is it because of immigration, or is it because of years of underinvestment? Lack of opportunities and therefore the boring but inevitable brain drain to bigger cities with more opportunities?

So why aren't Labour investing in those towns rather than carrying on where the terrible Tories left off?

[Not in Crawley]

35 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

The small boat crossings is absolutely a societal issue, as the protests outside hotels accommodating asylum seekers and last summer's riots show

Hmmm, im not so sure. I think its a vector for other issues.

People are right to be angry. Its the focus I question.

[Not in Crawley]

1 minute ago, frank_spencer said:

So why aren't Labour investing in those towns rather than carrying on where the terrible Tories left off?

Again its been a year. Think about the development of every new towns, even the financial district in London. These things take decades. All an incumbent government can do is start the legislation and the process.

It takes a minimum of ten years to see progress. I know Johnson and his ilk were fools, but the real damage for me was done in Cameron's second term. Him and Osbourne are the real criminals.

[gonzo]

9 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Again, thats economics- poorer local councils took the money for being gateway town due to austerity. It was a way of funding basic local systems. 

Why are these towns poor? Is it because of immigration, or is it because of years of underinvestment? Lack of opportunities and therefore the boring but inevitable brain drain to bigger cities with more opportunities?

So maybe throwing a load of migrants into the mix in these places might not be the best idea then?

It's like the big fuck off cherry on top.

I've spoke about this a million times on here. I could write a book on the state of Blackpool and decisions that have lead to its impoverished state.

Allowing serco and the likes to currently snap up properties and turn them in the HMOs to fill with migrants is like pouring petrol on the fire.

It's every bit a societal issue if you happen to live in an area where they put an asylum centre or HMO. 

 

 

[frank_spencer]

4 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Again its been a year. Think about the development of every new towns, even the financial district in London. These things take decades. All an incumbent government can do is start the legislation and the process.

It takes a minimum of ten years to see progress. I know Johnson and his ilk were fools, but the real damage for me was done in Cameron's second term. Him and Osbourne are the real criminals.

Doesn't take decades to tell folk what your plans are. Starmer and crew are just heads down and carry on the same way that's got us in this mess.

[Not in Crawley]

24 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Doesn't take decades to tell folk what your plans are. Starmer and crew are just heads down and carry on the same way that's got us in this mess.

I dont disagree that they are awful at comms.