Apologies if this has been done before but i looked and couldn't find it. Here is my thoughts on the current squad and who we should keep or release. Thoughts?

 

1 Ben Amos Goalkeeper Jun-19 Sell/Loan

2 Mark Little Defender Jun-19 Keep

3 Andrew Taylor Defender Jun-19 Keep

4 Dorian Dervite Defender Jun-18 Release

5 Mark Beevers Defender Jun-18 Release

6 Josh Vela Midfielder Jun-19 Keep

7 Chris Taylor Midfielder Jun-18 Release

8 Jem Karacan Midfielder Jun-18 Release

9 Adam Le Fondre Forward Jun-19 Keep

10 Sammy Ameobi Midfielder Jun-18 Re-sign

11 Will Buckley Midfielder Jun-19 Keep

12 Craig Noone Midfielder Jun-19 Keep

13 Ben Alnwick Goalkeeper Jun-18 Re-sign

14 Jon Flanagan Defender Jun-18 Try get on loan

15 Antonee Robinson Defender Jun-18 Try Sign

17 Derik Osede Defender Jun-18 Release

18 Aaron Wilbraham Forward Jun-18 Release

19 Tyler Walker Forward Jun-18 Send Back

20 Harry Charsley Midfielder Jun-18 Send Back

21 Darren Pratley Midfielder Jun-18 Re-sign

22 Filipe Morais Midfielder Jun-18 Re-sign

23 Stephen Darby Defender Jun-19 Sell/Loan

24 Karl Henry Midfielder Jun-18 Re-sign

27 Jan Kirchhoff Midfielder Jun-18 Release

31 David Wheater Defender Jun-18 Re-sign

32 Reece Burke Defender Jun-18 Try Sign

33 Mark Howard Goalkeeper Jun-18 Release

40 Zach Clough Forward Jun-18 Send Back

  Chinedu Obasi Forward Jun-18 Release

 

Nixon tweeted last night that we've offered Alnwick a new contract. No surprise - other than I'd forgotten he was out of contract!! Need to sort that one. Nixon said Sunderland had been interested but it had gone quiet.

Nixon tweeted last night that we've offered Alnwick a new contract. No surprise - other than I'd forgotten he was out of contract!! Need to sort that one. Nixon said Sunderland had been interested but it had gone quiet.

He’s off to Blackburn

He’s off to Blackburn

 

Why? Blackburn's owners have set their wage bill at £12M. That is what ours is, so can't be for money. 

Why? Blackburn's owners have set their wage bill at £12M. That is what ours is, so can't be for money. 

 

well, if they are offering more money it would be

or a longer contract

well, if they are offering more money it would be

 

 

Seems unlikely to be substantially more given their desire to cap wages to the same level ours is at.

 

Longer contract maybe. But again Blackburn aren't in a substantially different position to us financially. I'd be disappointed if we lost him there. Sunderland might be a different matter if they use their parachute payments for longer deals and he's from up that way. 

Why? Blackburn's owners have set their wage bill at £12M. That is what ours is, so can't be for money. 

 

Higher wage

Longer contract

Bigger bonuses

 

All a reasons that he could choose to leave - I'm not actually saying that any of them are true, but any or all of them might be

 

Even if Blackburn have set their wage bill at £12M, that's not to say that they couldn't offer him 50% or 100% more of a wage - perhaps we've offered an amount that he sees as insulting

Maybe he feels they are better equipped

To stay up this year than we are and is thinking about his future and playing career.

He'd have to learn to play the banjo though

Seems unlikely to be substantially more given their desire to cap wages to the same level ours is at.

 

Longer contract maybe. But again Blackburn aren't in a substantially different position to us financially. I'd be disappointed if we lost him there. Sunderland might be a different matter if they use their parachute payments for longer deals and he's from up that way. 

 

aye, but that's one reason why he'd choose them

 

blackburn may offer more to first teamers than squad players, or have proportioned their budget differently

 

even if not "substantially" more, if it's 1k a week more on a 2 year deal, he's over 100k better off

 

maybe he likes being paid on time

 

he's not gone there though, yet

Edited May 25, 20188 yr by ZicoKelly

maybe just maybe any slight improvement in contract if any isn't the main reason behind the decision.

 

He may feel there is a better opportunity there to continue to play at this level or progress.

Pity about Karacan wrong place wrong team etc I know some on here love Pratley but please get shut .Cant see it mind Parky likes him would offer Henry another year though.

Think Buckley will come good despite his inability to hit a cows arse with a banjo last season.

Pratley is an odd one for me. Never been massively impressed, but at times he does seem to come good. To hear him speak he seems quite a down to earth bloke and quite passionate; maybe useful to have around if some younger guys come through.

Pratley is an odd one for me. Never been massively impressed, but at times he does seem to come good. To hear him speak he seems quite a down to earth bloke and quite passionate; maybe useful to have around if some younger guys come through.

 

Think Pratley will be missed more & more when he eventually goes. A lot of his work is unnoticed and under appreciated at times. been with us a long time now and along with Wheater has gone through the many ups and downs and legitimately cares for the club.

 

not sure whether there is room for both him & Henry moving forward. However i think they both deserve another 12 months..tough one 

aye, but that's one reason why he'd choose them

 

blackburn may offer more to first teamers than squad players, or have proportioned their budget differently

 

even if not "substantially" more, if it's 1k a week more on a 2 year deal, he's over 100k better off

 

maybe he likes being paid on time

 

he's not gone there though, yet

Exactly £100k in a short career is massive.

At decent money, i'd keep Pratley for another year.

 

Likewise Henry. However at 33 and 35 (36 in November) we are in desperate need of another few pairs of fresh legs.

 

Hopefully we can tie down Sammy, Wheater and Beevers.

Id keep Pratley if the wages were right.

 

There are twats on twatter up in arms that derik has left and at the same time are calling for Pratley to be released

Id keep Pratley if the wages were right.

 

There are twats on twatter up in arms that derik has left and at the same time are calling for Pratley to be released

 

Derik was absolutely dreadful. Were he homegrown from Bolton he'd be the absolute whipping boy for those fans. 

Another one that rates pratley. We are a better team with him in it. Likeable bloke as well.

 

On the other hand I wonder what his thoughts are about signing for us looking back?

i would lose both and start again personally but i am feeling risky this window 

i would lose both and start again personally but i am feeling risky this window

 

Investment is critical to that though

 

even though Ken has said there will be money regardless, it will still be shoe string 

Another like for pratley agree with Tomski

i would lose both and start again personally but i am feeling risky this window 

 

Both Pratley and Henry are good pros, keeping them on makes sense even if we do strength sufficiently in that area.

 

Come Dec/Jan, when the season starts to take its toll, both players can be reliable upon to come in and do a job.

 

I know these aren't exciting signings but better that than punts on players surplus to requirements at other clubs coming in and playing the odd game and being bombed to the stiffs until the end of the season - al Charsley, Walker, Kirchoff, Clough & Obasi.

Edited May 25, 20188 yr by jimmyjoojar

Pratley’s house was put up for sale about 8 weeks ago. It is now completely empty and 3 cars gone.

 

He may have just rented it though and decided to settle long term in Halliwell...

I'd definitely keep Henry, but with Pratley, it would depend on him accepting quite a pay cut.......my guess would be that he'd try to find a better deal elsewhere, fail, then try to sign the deal offered here but too late &  finish up in div 1, probably Blackpool.

 

If Pratley, Derik, Karacan & Kirchoff,  are gone, it's going to leave us short of holding midfielders ( maybe King can step up ) but the priority for any money we've got, must be for a target man forward,  & then a creative midfield player and/or a fast striker.

 

Defensively, we'll probably have to try & patch up with frees & loanees again

I'd definitely keep Henry, but with Pratley, it would depend on him accepting quite a pay cut.......my guess would be that he'd try to find a better deal elsewhere, fail, then try to sign the deal offered here but too late &  finish up in div 1, probably Blackpool.

 

If Pratley, Derik, Karacan & Kirchoff,  are gone, it's going to leave us short of holding midfielders ( maybe King can step up ) but the priority for any money we've got, must be for a target man forward,  & then a creative midfield player and/or a fast striker.

 

Defensively, we'll probably have to try & patch up with frees & loanees again

 

I see it the other way. In that we're more likely to get quality attacking players on loan than we are spending what little money we have on fees. Whereas there are bargains to be had on defenders and defensive midfield players out there with a bit of cash to spend.