Who’s in?

after today obvs 

lost 2 and a bit Stone last year. Put a bit back on last two months but nothing that can’t be shifted with a bit of graft.

 

3 hours ago, gonzo said:

Not seen that before. Interesting. Was just looking at a long run I did a few weeks back and I was in the “red zone” pretty much straight away and the last 9k or 10k was “above” the red zone (I’m early 40s).

Not sure if that’s worrying…?!

My Apple Watch reckons my resting heart rate is 52 BPM.

 

4 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

Have to say the air bike has been a revelation - means I get the same buzz as from running but can't mess my poor knee up which is now certainly in the 'fucked' category.

That an the skiing machine and rower - burns calories like a bastard.

I like the skiing machines but once I get the idea in my head that I'm lucky Pierre it proper puts me off my stride

8 hours ago, jmjhb said:

That said, I've just been diagnosed with diabetes. Given the weight loss the doctor thinks it's been undiagnosed a while.

Might explain why I've been feeling rotten recently. Anyway, onto metformin and lifestyle changes...

Type 2 diabetes can be reversed for some but it will involve a change in diet.  Well worth a go.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/may/15/how-to-cure-type-2-diabetes-without-medication

4 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Not seen that before. Interesting. Was just looking at a long run I did a few weeks back and I was in the “red zone” pretty much straight away and the last 9k or 10k was “above” the red zone (I’m early 40s).

Not sure if that’s worrying…?!

My Apple Watch reckons my resting heart rate is 52 BPM.

 

Was you using your Apple Watch to get your HR when training? 

Edited October 25, 20241 yr by royal white

25 minutes ago, royal white said:

Was you using your Apple Watch to get your HR when training? 

Yeah. Probably not scientific.

25 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Yeah. Probably not scientific.

Chest straps give a more accurate reading 

Aye I'm very sceptical about my HR reading from my Garmin watch.

19 hours ago, MancWanderer said:

OK. Cheers. No I never really get out of breath or can’t speak so all good

Don’t really know much about these zones but kept hearing/reading about zone 2

Yeah zone 2 is where your elite athletes do most of their training. It works but generally you have to be smashing a lot of training. This naturally brings your training into zone 2

19 hours ago, MancWanderer said:

OK. Cheers. No I never really get out of breath or can’t speak so all good

Don’t really know much about these zones but kept hearing/reading about zone 2

Zone 2 is Monsall to Newton Heath

If you want to target body fat the general rule of thumb is that if you can just about talk comfortably without being out of breath you're good to go.

Once your above that your blasting in to stored glycogen as the body is in panic mode. 

 

Into my 2nd week of MAF training. I noticed my upper heart rate is 2 beats above the Zone 2 upper heart rate, so I’m going to adjust it, so I can tick both boxes off.

As for pace and heart rates whilst running. I’m hovering around the 11.10 pace for each mile. Given that I ran Manchester Marathon back in April at 7.49 pace (HR was 162), this is tough going running so slow.

Eating wise, macros are hovering around 10% Carbs, 30% protein, 60% fat. 

Just deciding whether i should deduct my fiber and sugar from my daily carbs for a truer reading.

Edited October 30, 20241 yr by Smiley

Oh, and fasted every day so far in the training. Most runs I’ve done fasted as well.

Starting to throw in some weight training this week. Mon, Wed, Fri.

And got a big hike in Lakes this weekend, so that’ll fuck up my HR!

When I lost my mum 2.5 yrs ago . I went into a tailspin , depression and anxiety smashed me . I got help ,talking and pills. Started cycling,I was so shit i was the comical fat bloke at the back.

I used to run but my knees are fucked and I had just found comfort in food and the bottom of a glass. My daughter set me up with an online PT just before Christmas I now train at least 4 times a week a mixture of weights ,cardio and cycling. I am fitter than I was 15 years ago . I have lost around 2.5 stone and my head is nowhere near as fucked . By far the best thing I have ever done. 

Edited October 30, 20241 yr by batton carrier
Typo

Top effort that. 

Was it you that put up the pictures of a Scottish beach with your dog on it?

A lovely place to help get your head and body right.

8 hours ago, Smiley said:

Into my 2nd week of MAF training. I noticed my upper heart rate is 2 beats above the Zone 2 upper heart rate, so I’m going to adjust it, so I can tick both boxes off.

As for pace and heart rates whilst running. I’m hovering around the 11.10 pace for each mile. Given that I ran Manchester Marathon back in April at 7.49 pace (HR was 162), this is tough going running so slow.

Eating wise, macros are hovering around 10% Carbs, 30% protein, 60% fat. 

Just deciding whether i should deduct my fiber and sugar from my daily carbs for a truer reading.

I suppose you’ve started MAF training at a good time (weather wise) I started in summer and I was living in a little village that was surrounded by hills not the best setting for keeping your HR low,  the majority of my runs were fast walks. 

4 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Top effort that. 

Was it you that put up the pictures of a Scottish beach with your dog on it?

A lovely place to help get your head and body right.

It was yes. Great holiday that. We did 2 weeks in the camper .It felt like we had been away months when we got home

On 30/10/2024 at 19:55, royal white said:

I suppose you’ve started MAF training at a good time (weather wise) I started in summer and I was living in a little village that was surrounded by hills not the best setting for keeping your HR low,  the majority of my runs were fast walks. 

Did you keep it up for long?

I’ve done nearly 2 weeks now. Ended up on Worsley loop line the other day. 4 miles from car park and back again. Recorded it 2 separate 4 milers. From the car park, there’s that slight gradient… made such a difference, HR kept jumping well above my MAF, pissed me off good and proper. Then on way back, I was actually running 90% of the way, very little stopping.

Today’s run – parked up at the end of the Trans Pennine Trail near Broadheath. Was just locking up the door on car, when I noticed the car parked next to me, young lady on the back seat with the passenger seat fully down… and some bloke about to jump on top. I looked at her, our eyes met, and then I set off on my run.

I was thinking, surely not, surely not at 9am on a Friday in broad daylight. Plenty of dog walkers park up there.

Got back from my run, was stretching off and saw they were still there and definitely some shenanigans going on!!

When I sat back down in my car, I could see, they’d; swapped positions, he was lay back and she was facing him - I presume piping him off.

Not all doom and gloom this running and dieting malarkey!

Definitely making this my Friday morning run now!!

6 minutes ago, Smiley said:

When I sat back down in my car, I could see, they’d; swapped positions, he was lay back and she was facing him - I presume piping him off.

Not all doom and gloom this running and dieting malarkey!

Definitely making this my Friday morning run now!!

Don't bother with the run, just hide in the bushes and have a wank.

3 hours ago, Smiley said:

Did you keep it up for long?

I’ve done nearly 2 weeks now. Ended up on Worsley loop line the other day. 4 miles from car park and back again. Recorded it 2 separate 4 milers. From the car park, there’s that slight gradient… made such a difference, HR kept jumping well above my MAF, pissed me off good and proper. Then on way back, I was actually running 90% of the way, very little stopping.

I think it was for about 5-6 months, it didn’t help with me working away and changing a lot of my running routes. You do have to be very disciplined with it. There’s numerous MAF groups on FB that show people progress, it can be done it’s just if you have the patience or not. 

On 30/10/2024 at 16:35, batton carrier said:

When I lost my mum 2.5 yrs ago . I went into a tailspin , depression and anxiety smashed me . I got help ,talking and pills. Started cycling,I was so shit i was the comical fat bloke at the back.

I used to run but my knees are fucked and I had just found comfort in food and the bottom of a glass. My daughter set me up with an online PT just before Christmas I now train at least 4 times a week a mixture of weights ,cardio and cycling. I am fitter than I was 15 years ago . I have lost around 2.5 stone and my head is nowhere near as fucked . By far the best thing I have ever done. 

And that’s what it’s all about! Well done. Nothing better than a total reset and taking life in a new direction.

On 01/11/2024 at 18:09, royal white said:

I think it was for about 5-6 months, it didn’t help with me working away and changing a lot of my running routes. You do have to be very disciplined with it. There’s numerous MAF groups on FB that show people progress, it can be done it’s just if you have the patience or not. 

Did you stick to MAF in that time for EVERY run/workout. Or did you go with the 80/20 method at any point? Tried doing as much research as possible. Found a coach who suggested MAF for all your runs, but throwing in a few 20 second sprints 3-4 times at the end of 50% of your runs, just to work some of the muscles that are getting neglected by running so slow and not fully striding out. Minefield!

8 minutes ago, Smiley said:

Did you stick to MAF in that time for EVERY run/workout. Or did you go with the 80/20 method at any point? Tried doing as much research as possible. Found a coach who suggested MAF for all your runs, but throwing in a few 20 second sprints 3-4 times at the end of 50% of your runs, just to work some of the muscles that are getting neglected by running so slow and not fully striding out. Minefield!

It all sounds very complex and complicated 

What's the point exactly?

19 hours ago, Zico said:

It all sounds very complex and complicated 

What's the point exactly?

1. Cut sugar out of your diet. No. 1 killer in the world.

2. Run faster, stronger, injury free.

3. Reduce body fat %.

4. Live longer.

5. Reduce stress.

36 minutes ago, Smiley said:

1. Cut sugar out of your diet. No. 1 killer in the world.

2. Run faster, stronger, injury free.

3. Reduce body fat %.

4. Live longer.

5. Reduce stress.

all good

controlling your heart rate sounds like a right faff though

I'll just stick to the HIIT sessions and running and not give any of it a second thought

if I die first, you win