Are in Manchester today

Might pop down at lunchtime 

Wonder if they’ll take their plastic bottles home with them?

12 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Now then, if the BBC had shown the clip linked by boby, as in the full bit, then it would be different.

You're right, I've changed my mind, he aims a stamp on the fellas head and therefore can't complain if he gets lamped.

No need for the snide grey hoodie man, but if the protestor wants to give it, he needs to be prepared to take it.

Thing is none of these scruffy oinks can give it. And when it does come back in spades they don’t like it and there is uproar. 

There are ways to protest against things this isn’t the right way and they deserve every bit of anger that comes back at them for disrupting the lives of normal people going out to jobs they probably hate to put food on the table for their families  

5 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Thing is none of these scruffy oinks can give it. And when it does come back in spades they don’t like it and there is uproar. 

There are ways to protest against things this isn’t the right way and they deserve every bit of anger that comes back at them for disrupting the lives of normal people going out to jobs they probably hate to put food on the table for their families  

No argument there from me.

Just found it a bit distasteful seeing a couple of blokes chucking in a snide boot. I get the feeling the protestor had already had what was due.

13 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Thing is none of these scruffy oinks can give it. And when it does come back in spades they don’t like it and there is uproar. 

Where's the uproar? The vast majority seem to think the bellend deserved it.

What pisses me off the most about this is that there was a poll amongst XR members the other day asking if we should target the tube. 97% of the protestors voted not to target it- going for the strongly disagree option. 

Then these numpties go and do it. And they have the cheek to complain we need a better democracy to combat climate change.

I've supported minor disruption of roads so far because they have been directly outside Westminster, government departments, oil/gas fairs and media franchise. They have also be liaising with public transport and emergency services beforehand to minimise disruption. Being there for a few days, I can tell you the general public were mainly understanding, positive or up for a debate. 

Horrible scenes and a shitty image for the movement created by narrow minded idiots. If I'm alienated, then god knows how everyone else feels. There will always be people infiltrating movements to affect it's image, but the worst part about this is the people 'at the top' seem to be in agreement. 

Not great for anyone is it.

2 hours ago, Spider said:

This

If you want to stop people getting to work, I'd suggest East London is not the place to start.

The head of the post room said the same this morning. Or rather,

'You don't farkin' 'ell do that at Cannin' Town - why didn't they choose South Ken? Muppets.'

Targeting public transport FFS.

That's just destroyed large chunks of support they have gained previously.

This will be the lasting image of XR for many people now.

1 hour ago, Boby Brno said:

 

Ha ha.

This Morning has just run a poll.

Do you support the Extinction Rebellion activism campaign?

 

No - 95%

Yes 5%

 

Perhaps they are willing to die for the cause.

11 minutes ago, MickyD said:

This Morning has just run a poll.

Do you support the Extinction Rebellion activism campaign?

 

No - 95%

Yes 5%

 

But did they ring Stan collymore and ask him on to talk about it? 

Just now, Escobarp said:

But did they ring Stan collymore and ask him on to talk about it? 

Think that was Good Morning

 

This one is Holly Willoughboobies

3 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Think that was Good Morning

 

This one is Holly Willoughboobies

😂 my mistake apologies 

1 hour ago, MickyD said:

This Morning has just run a poll.

Do you support the Extinction Rebellion activism campaign?

 

No - 95%

Yes 5%

 

This Morning? Aye, that'll be a random sample 😂

1 hour ago, frank_spencer said:

Targeting public transport FFS.

That's just destroyed large chunks of support they have gained previously.

This will be the lasting image of XR for many people now.

No doubt the bloke receiving the kicking is now telling all his fellow activists about it, holding interviews with the papers, writing a "blog" and organising the next meeting....all on his smartphone naturally

https://phys.org/news/2018-08-ways-smartphone-environment.html

7 hours ago, Carlos said:

The lad goes to climb up and he stamps on his head? Fuck it, it's on. Well deserved shoeing.

Correct sir.

18 hours ago, Boby Brno said:

 

More thanks due Boby. Joe Public strikes back. Have a 'like'.

21 hours ago, SatanGreavsie said:

No doubt the bloke receiving the kicking is now telling all his fellow activists about it, holding interviews with the papers, writing a "blog" and organising the next meeting....all on his smartphone naturally

https://phys.org/news/2018-08-ways-smartphone-environment.html

Very much doubt it to be honest pal. The fellas who received a kicking have been given plenty of abuse by people in their own movement. Folk in XR are furious and rightly so, what were they thinking? Virtually nobody in XR wanted them to do this and they went and did it anyway. Knowing they would alienate the majority of their own movement and any public support they had gained. Fuck em. 

However... are we still going for the argument that you can't protest because at some point you used fossil fuels? Hardly the most enlightened of arguments. 

It's a good article though, thanks for sharing. Kind of highlights the issue. So many companies make huge profits from persuading you to buy shite you don't need or shite that doesn't last. There are better solutions. You can buy Fairphones but they cost a fortune. You can insulate your home more efficiently, replace your boiler, but it costs a fortune. You can get an electric car or buy pesticde free food, but it costs a fortune. Currently, many of the paths to going carbon neutral involve being wealthy and that's why we need a massive shift in our economy and company practice. 

Edited October 18, 20196 yr by London Wanderer

In the decades to come, oil prices surely will rise as availability lessens and it costs more to get it.

Putting global warming to one side, food production will need another revolution at some point as it can't continue as a fossil fuel based industry.

Technology is playing a part in helping reduce pesticide use, I would imagine bio fuels and electrification will play a part.

Had an interesting discussion with my mum about this last night. She's come to the conclusion that Climate Change is a massive lie - based entirely on 2 bellends standing on top of a train, and Piers Morgan talking to some cunt dressed up as a piece of brocolli. What a world.

XR had a spokeswomen on the news the other day saying 30 years of government have done nothing to combat climate change. Completely wrong and completely counter productive 

The same day it was announced by the national grid that for the third month running over 50% of our electricity was generated by renewable sources!! We now release less Carbon than we did when Queen Victoria died (when the population was half of what it is now). 

We are on track to recycle over 50% of all waste by next year and 10% of new cars sold are now electric or hybrid. 

But let these tickets go round telling people that nothing has happened! 

Let this lot protest and ruin people’s days whilst other people quietly go about making an actual difference 

21 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Putting global warming to one side, food production will need another revolution at some point as it can't continue as a fossil fuel based industry.

Absolutely. Which is why it annoys me that people are so opposed to GM foods. It's one of the most effective tools we'll have once the full effects of climate change start to become apparent.

I bet you a lot of the XR protesters pleading for governments to listen to the science on climate change aren't listening to the science on GM foods.

Just now, kent_white said:

Absolutely. Which is why it annoys me that people are so opposed to GM foods. It's one of the most effective tools we'll have once the full effects of climate change start to become apparent.

I bet you a lot of the XR protesters pleading for governments to listen to the science on climate change aren't listening to the science on GM foods.

I follow a guy on Facebook and one thing he's amazed by is the number of people who  bang in about science being the proof behind everything until it conflicts with their own personal views.

They'll babg on about the science showing climate change but then be dead against the science when it comes to vaccines or GM foods

This guy on Twitter nails it too

 

2 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

I follow a guy on Facebook and one thing he's amazed by is the number of people who  bang in about science being the proof behind everything until it conflicts with their own personal views.

They'll babg on about the science showing climate change but then be dead against the science when it comes to vaccines or GM foods

There is always this fear with to foods about how they may interact with species in the wider area.

Always makes me uneasy. We've engineered new species of plants for centuries, but only by cross breeding, which I suppose is something nature does anyway, just slower. Removing bits of DNA and substituting bits from elsewhere does concern me. Especially if unscrupulous companies cut corners.

 

Birch makes a good point too; what I didn't know until a couple of days ago was that the UK produces more offshore wind produced electricity than the rest of the world combined.

Seems almost impossible, but pretty good nonetheless.