Slow news day? The real deal? End of the world? 
 

They’re saying it probably came from an animal, has Somebody been shagging monkeys again? 

So for every bloke in their 60's who get old stylee Rona they expect about 10 will die out of 1000. The new kid on the block will kill 13 to 14.

So is that 0.3 to 0.4 % higher mortality rate or 30 to 40% more dead folk with new vs old Covid?

1 hour ago, boltondiver said:

410,000 yesterday 

over 10% of the adult population 

This is more done in one day than in the whole of Wales so far , in fact almost double !!

Wales 212,317 so far , fucking useless cunts

3 minutes ago, burnden said:

This is more done in one day than in the whole of Wales so far , in fact almost double !!

Wales 212,317 so far , fucking useless cunts

The 410,000 includes Wales, as an integral part of the UK

5 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

So for every bloke in their 60's who get old stylee Rona they expect about 10 will die out of 1000. The new kid on the block will kill 13 to 14.

So is that 0.3 to 0.4 % higher mortality rate or 30 to 40% more dead folk with new vs old Covid?

The beauty of statistics eh!

Wonder what the other age groups are like?

1 minute ago, boltondiver said:

The 410,000 includes Wales, as an integral part of the UK

My bad , still the point stands that the roll out here is sadly lacking , some nurses working in my local surgery who still haven't been vaccinated.

Just now, burnden said:

My bad , still the point stands that the roll out here is sadly lacking , some nurses working in my local surgery who still haven't been vaccinated.

I know, and Drakeford was certainly letting the country down last week.

17 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

0.01 to 0.013% higher. 🤷‍♂️
 

And even then, we only know which strain a person was infected with in 8% of deaths.

4 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

And even then, we only know which strain a person was infected with in 8% of deaths.

Yep. It’s for the statistical geeks to play around with. It’s interesting and relevant but the most important thing from that briefing is that the data shows that the vaccine is just as effective with the new UK variant.

Not as confident with the other variants.

@kent_whiteif a patient wears a c-pap. Shouldn't the staff be wearing a FFP3 mask? Boss argued with me today that only if they are covid+. I said it doesn't matter. What would you say? Tried finding the policies before I left but it was unclear. 

1 minute ago, bolton_blondie said:

@kent_whiteif a patient wears a c-pap. Shouldn't the staff be wearing a FFP3 mask? Boss argued with me today that only if they are covid+. I said it doesn't matter. What would you say? Tried finding the policies before I left but it was unclear. 

If it's aerosol generating then you should be wearing FFP 3. And CPAP is aerosol generating.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/wuhan-novel-coronavirus-infection-prevention-and-control/covid-19-infection-prevention-and-control-guidance-aerosol-generating-procedures

That's unless procedures have changed?

Just now, kent_white said:

If it's aerosol generating then you should be wearing FFP 3. And CPAP is aerosol generating.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/wuhan-novel-coronavirus-infection-prevention-and-control/covid-19-infection-prevention-and-control-guidance-aerosol-generating-procedures

That's unless procedures have changed?

Bloody knew it. Cheers. 

15 minutes ago, kent_white said:

If it's aerosol generating then you should be wearing FFP 3. And CPAP is aerosol generating.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/wuhan-novel-coronavirus-infection-prevention-and-control/covid-19-infection-prevention-and-control-guidance-aerosol-generating-procedures

That's unless procedures have changed?

I suppose in theory, if someone is no longer shedding virus, you'd be fine- certainly wouldn't want to be guessing though would you!

Kinell, surely everyone should have the equipment they need.

It's getting a lot busier at Wigan hospital, they are getting COVID patients from out of area (Merseyside), my daughter has been told she has to go back to work in ICU for at least a month

Noticed in Whitty’s graph that lockdown started after the peak

2 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Noticed in Whitty’s graph that lockdown started after the peak

Peak of what?

 

6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Peak of what?

 

Th’infections

Just now, boltondiver said:

Th’infections

Are you sure- only a few days ago there were 60000 in a day.

Either way, given numbers in hospital, seems essential to get numbers down as quickly as possible. 

1 hour ago, bolton_blondie said:

Bloody knew it. Cheers. 

Just double check before you go in all guns blazing. I'm not doing AGP's at the moment! 😁

Infection control will tell you if you ring them! 👍

49 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I suppose in theory, if someone is no longer shedding virus, you'd be fine- certainly wouldn't want to be guessing though would you!

Kinell, surely everyone should have the equipment they need.

I think the kit is there. It's managers getting mixed up about if and when it's required! 

13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Are you sure- only a few days ago there were 60000 in a day.

Either way, given numbers in hospital, seems essential to get numbers down as quickly as possible. 

I’m just going off the graph Whitty put up

6 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Just double check before you go in all guns blazing. I'm not doing AGP's at the moment! 😁

Infection control will tell you if you ring them! 👍

Haha. I'm for a week after this weekend so will check before I go in gobbing off 👍

This looks promising

 

1 hour ago, boltondiver said:

I’m just going off the graph Whitty put up

Its not available yet on t'interweb. Will check it out.

2 hours ago, kent_white said:

I think the kit is there. It's managers getting mixed up about if and when it's required! 

A swift headbutt to the nose should see them learn quicker.

Some of the stories I hear from a family member (hospital pharmacist) suggest there are a number of folk who should know better. Scary shit at times.

I understand that people may believe that lockdowns aren’t the “right” thing to do, but there are some people who continue to argue that the lockdowns haven’t helped control the virus. This would seem to suggest otherwise.