Escobarp Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, mickbrown said: I’m not clamouring for one. But there will be one though. I have absolutely no doubt about that. But why should there be one? What makes you so sure there will be one? Quote
mickbrown Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Escobarp said: But why should there be one? What makes you so sure there will be one? Because they have one after pretty much any event where there is a large loss of life. Why would this be different? Quote
Ani Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Escobarp said: But why should there be one? What makes you so sure there will be one? Because the government has taken on extraordinary powers have committed to billions of speed and nearly 10k people have died. There will and should be an enquiry to see what lessons should be learnt. It is critical we have one and that it is not a witch hunt. General consensus seems to be 7/10 for the government so surely we need to understand what 10/10 looks like. Quote
Casino Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 I think the question is why wouldn't there be one There's gonna be over 10k dead, hopefully under 20k and it's going to cost a fortune There's things we would do differently if it happened again Bozo shaking folks hands for one Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Casino said: I think the question is why wouldn't there be one There's gonna be over 10k dead, hopefully under 20k and it's going to cost a fortune There's things we would do differently if it happened again Bozo shaking folks hands for one This Boris shaking hands business- was it at a hospital? And if so, why wasn't he told to fuck off by doctor types? Quote
RoadRunnerFan Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 44 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said: I’m not driving a mini metro It's called a Rover 100 now Quote
peelyfeet Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Escobarp said: But why should there be one? What makes you so sure there will be one? There will be worldwide analysis to see which methods worked, and which didn't, to guide governments on how to prevent it happening in the future. I'll be massively shocked if the UK response comes out as being the one to follow. At the moment it looks like we were too slow, the messages weren't clear, shake hands ffs, masks dont work, delaying lockdown, taking weeks to write and pass the coronavirus bill. If we'd locked down 10 days earlier, less people would be dead today, less people would be infected, the end of lockdown might be nearer. How do you think the families of the dead are going to feel if they see other countries coming out of lockdown before us with a lower % of the population dead. It's going to be the biggest enquiry ever unless we can pull something out of the bag. Time will tell. Quote
Escobarp Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: There will be worldwide analysis to see which methods worked, and which didn't, to guide governments on how to prevent it happening in the future. I'll be massively shocked if the UK response comes out as being the one to follow. At the moment it looks like we were too slow, the messages weren't clear, shake hands ffs, masks dont work, delaying lockdown, taking weeks to write and pass the coronavirus bill. If we'd locked down 10 days earlier, less people would be dead today, less people would be infected, the end of lockdown might be nearer. How do you think the families of the dead are going to feel if they see other countries coming out of lockdown before us with a lower % of the population dead. It's going to be the biggest enquiry ever unless we can pull something out of the bag. Time will tell. Analysis and learning from mistakes or areas we could have improved on given hindsight I completely agree with a politically motivated witch hunt can fuck off for me. And anyone that supports that or wants to be involved can get themselves to fuck as well. what we don’t need is making this any harder for those who have lost loved ones to this disease. And I include myself in that although I will never know the exact truth of whether my dad died of this but I’m pretty sure. Quote
peelyfeet Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Analysis and learning from mistakes or areas we could have improved on given hindsight I completely agree with a politically motivated witch hunt can fuck off for me. And anyone that supports that or wants to be involved can get themselves to fuck as well. what we don’t need is making this any harder for those who have lost loved ones to this disease. And I include myself in that although I will never know the exact truth of whether my dad died of this but I’m pretty sure. Its gonna be worldwide mate, and I agree it shouldn't be politically motivated, and I doubt that any other UK political party would have dealt with this in a much different way, it's the system that needs to be looked at, we arent fast at making decisions and I think we have a bit of a superiority complex in the UK Quote
Casino Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 (edited) Peelyfeet was calling out government inaction Weeks ago And he's just a idiot on a football message board I didn't type idiot Edited April 11, 2020 by Casino Quote
peelyfeet Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Just now, Casino said: Peelyfeet was calling out government inaction Werks ago And he's just a idiot on a football message board An idiot that's had 6 cans of IPA Quote
Escobarp Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Its gonna be worldwide mate, and I agree it shouldn't be politically motivated, and I doubt that any other UK political party would have dealt with this in a much different way, it's the system that needs to be looked at, we arent fast at making decisions and I think we have a bit of a superiority complex in the UK First thing kier starmer did when he got voted in as leader was state how many mistakes the government had made that set his tone immediately. we need to make sure our nhs is in a better place to deal with anything that ever comes it’s way. That’s what we need from this. but those frothing are the mouth for other reasons can go and boil their heads Quote
jeep Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: An idiot that's had 6 cans of IPA I'm glad you've changed your mind about having a 2 week break from here fella. Keep posting lad 👍 Quote
Casino Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 After 6 cans, I reckon he's forgotten he's not coming on any more Quote
kent_white Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 9 hours ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Is the daily sport still going Do they still have the nipple count? I used to love that 'Gentlemen, today's nipple count is 248' 😂😂😂 Quote
kent_white Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, ZicoKelly said: Stop going on about Benjamin Netanyahu, you're never going to meet him Lovely stuff Quote
jmjhb Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 26 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Analysis and learning from mistakes or areas we could have improved on given hindsight I completely agree with a politically motivated witch hunt can fuck off for me. And anyone that supports that or wants to be involved can get themselves to fuck as well. what we don’t need is making this any harder for those who have lost loved ones to this disease. And I include myself in that although I will never know the exact truth of whether my dad died of this but I’m pretty sure. Sounds exactly like what they say after every mass shooting in America, no wonder fuck all changes Quote
Escobarp Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, jmjhb said: Sounds exactly like what they say after every mass shooting in America, no wonder fuck all changes Sorry what bit of that are you referring to? Quote
jmjhb Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Politicising it. Obviously there should be an enquiry after this is all done, just to see what could have done better and whether the government's action or inaction exacerbated the situation. Things like an immediate full lockdown, PPE issues etc. It will obviously be politicised but that would be the case whether Tories, Labour or the Monster Raving Loonies were in power. Quote
kent_white Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 1 minute ago, jmjhb said: Politicising it. Obviously there should be an enquiry after this is all done, just to see what could have done better and whether the government's action or inaction exacerbated the situation. Things like an immediate full lockdown, PPE issues etc. It will obviously be politicised but that would be the case whether Tories, Labour or the Monster Raving Loonies were in power. There's loads we can learn from this. Loads. But we have to be mindful not to apply the benefit of hindsight. Folk have been doing their level best throughout! Quote
only1swanny Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Nobody purposefully sets out to allow thousands of people to die.. China lied, the borders should have been closed instantly, with people having strict quarantine on the way in PPE should have been ordered just in case, and then left in a cupboard for donkeys years if needed. Lockdown should have been done a week before it should have People make mistakes on this scale, it's an invisible enemy, but the main question that will arise, is where did it come from? Quote
jmjhb Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, kent_white said: There's loads we can learn from this. Loads. But we have to be mindful not to apply the benefit of hindsight. Folk have been doing their level best throughout! For the most part, I feel they've reacted quite well. However, could they have been more proactive before it hit our shores? Sure. That's for the enquiry and what we can learn if it ever happens again Quote
Rudy Posted April 11, 2020 Author Posted April 11, 2020 57 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said: It's called a Rover 100 now They’ve rebadged it you fool Quote
kent_white Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said: They’ve rebadged it you fool Not my words Carol..... Quote
Guest Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, peelyfeet said: There will be worldwide analysis to see which methods worked, and which didn't, to guide governments on how to prevent it happening in the future. I'll be massively shocked if the UK response comes out as being the one to follow. At the moment it looks like we were too slow, the messages weren't clear, shake hands ffs, masks dont work, delaying lockdown, taking weeks to write and pass the coronavirus bill. If we'd locked down 10 days earlier, less people would be dead today, less people would be infected, the end of lockdown might be nearer. How do you think the families of the dead are going to feel if they see other countries coming out of lockdown before us with a lower % of the population dead. It's going to be the biggest enquiry ever unless we can pull something out of the bag. Time will tell. If we'd locked down earlier, it would have been against the science experts, though. Would the politicians be better off following scientific advice, or ignoring it? Quote
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