Coronavirus

[Escobarp]

6 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

It’s not about that for me as my stance is I’m fully in support of teachers as in their jobs pay holidays etc but I do think June should happen 

 

No doubt there’s places where if you raised concerns or said it’s not safe to come back it’s “off you pop”

 

Yes I suspect they will be given verbal and written warnings in line with employment law and employment terminated. ACAS are going to be busy ahead of thousands of tribunals next year I imagine. 
 

in some cases the off you pop message will be justified I reckon but also some where there are real concerns about it. 
 

but we can’t hide for ever. We have to get on with it at some point 

[Zico]

Global pandemic

Highest death toll in Europe

Testing levels not up to where they are promised to be

Tracing system not up to speed yet

Can't blame people for not wanting to go back yet

Get testing and tracing in place and we can get moving again

[radcliffe white]

6 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Yes I suspect they will be given verbal and written warnings in line with employment law and employment terminated. ACAS are going to be busy ahead of thousands of tribunals next year I imagine. 
 

in some cases the off you pop message will be justified I reckon but also some where there are real concerns about it. 
 

but we can’t hide for ever. We have to get on with it at some point 

That’s it mate 

I mentioned weeks back some employers and employees will take the absolute piss as there will be holes all over

But then you have the genuine ones 

 

Edited May 15, 2020 by radcliffe white

[Horwich]

Everything has stopped because the kids haven’t gone back to school.

The same kids who have no history of having CV.

This is just like the PPE scandal (That never actually ran out)

Care home scandal (Shock that people in care homes are dying)

Footballers not wanting to do their job in empty stadiums because of the snowflakes who are getting relegated

Testing scandal when people arent booking them

ITS BOLLOCKS - Get on with it 

[jules_darby]

41 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

 

Beg to differ, as will a few of my colleagues that have been ill from it.

Worth remembering that one doctor once stated that vaccinations caused Autism, and backed it up with evidence. He was struck off but the damage he caused is still having a knock on effect now..

 

 

Let’s ignore all evidence then 🤷🏽‍♂️

That’s the modern world in a nutshell 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, jules_darby said:

Let’s ignore all evidence then 🤷🏽‍♂️

That’s the modern world in a nutshell 

That's his point isn't it?

Increasingly, as this goes on, different groups producing conflicting reports all based on evidence.

The evidence Swanny has is from his own illness and that of his colleagues. Can't blame him for being concerned.

[kent_white]

One things to bear in mind with all this. We've got the infrastructure and the beds and the testing kits and the ventilators and the PPE. 

What we've not got is a load more critical care nurses, Doctors and ICU consultants. And they've been working flat out for the past 2 months.

[fatolive]

1 hour ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

So sky are saying the R rate is 0.75 with the north west at 0.73

be reet in a month 

Read that this morning , reads  positive as I see it after the doom predictions and also backs up statements on here of regional lockdowns , the virus petering out itself if constant below 1 and even isolating just the vulnerable 

not sure how it works with the kids back to school and potentially increasing the R by spreading it again like but I read this as positive, if it’s accurate , but I don’t know and could be another report saying it will never go in the next page so God knows

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-virus-could-be-wiped-out-in-london-in-weeks-as-rate-of-infection-is-slowing-say-researchers-11988579

 

[Jol_BWFC]

1 hour ago, ZicoKelly said:

Global pandemic

Highest death toll in Europe

Testing levels not up to where they are promised to be

Tracing system not up to speed yet

Can't blame people for not wanting to go back yet

Get testing and tracing in place and we can get moving again

7/10

[Spider]

38 minutes ago, kent_white said:

One things to bear in mind with all this. We've got the infrastructure and the beds and the testing kits and the ventilators and the PPE. 

What we've not got is a load more critical care nurses, Doctors and ICU consultants. And they've been working flat out for the past 2 months.

What would you know?

[radcliffe white]

3 minutes ago, fatolive said:

Read that this morning , reads  positive as I see it after the doom predictions and also backs up statements on here of regional lockdowns , the virus petering out itself if constant below 1 and even isolating just the vulnerable 

not sure how it works with the kids back to school and potentially increasing the R by spreading it again like but I read this as positive, if it’s accurate , but I don’t know and could be another report saying it will never go in the next page so God knows

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-virus-could-be-wiped-out-in-london-in-weeks-as-rate-of-infection-is-slowing-say-researchers-11988579

 

I see Dr Hillary was slightly sceptical this morning of those numbers and some people will but yes it’s positive for a change, think it was gonzo or birch said about lockdowns in certain areas

 

[Escobarp]

GET BACK TO WORK YOU SPONGING LAZY CUNTS 

 

[Youri McAnespie]

32 minutes ago, kent_white said:

One things to bear in mind with all this. We've got the infrastructure and the beds and the testing kits and the ventilators and the PPE. 

What we've not got is a load more critical care nurses, Doctors and ICU consultants. And they've been working flat out for the past 2 months.

It'll be reet, burn a few teachers in a wicker snowflake...

Loads of doctors and ICU consultants will then come back from retirement or Saudi Arabia - 1st Year nursing students can make up remaining shortfalls, most of them know an arse from an elbow.

We need to get the kids back in school for June and July, those Shrek DVDs won't watch themselves y'know. The whole world will be like a film of the ghastly propagandaist Ken Loach if we don't...millions will die from lack of scratchcards and big tellies.

Fuck me, I wouldn't have liked to be in the trenches with some of these screechers. Six weeks stuck with the kids and they're waving a white flag to the bosch (covid-19).

 

[radcliffe white]

Just now, Escobarp said:

GET BACK TO WORK YOU SPONGING LAZY CUNTS 

 

Keep the fat people isolated job done 

[Zico]

43 minutes ago, kent_white said:

One things to bear in mind with all this. We've got the infrastructure and the beds and the testing kits and the ventilators and the PPE. 

What we've not got is a load more critical care nurses, Doctors and ICU consultants. And they've been working flat out for the past 2 months.

it is what it is, get on with it

[Escobarp]

All us grafters should be given a nice Cash bonus by the government and a couple of weeks off with first dibs at all the foreign holidays I reckon. Only fair that way 

[peelyfeet]

1 hour ago, Horwich said:

Everything has stopped because the kids haven’t gone back to school.

The same kids who have no history of having CV.

This is just like the PPE scandal (That never actually ran out)

Care home scandal (Shock that people in care homes are dying)

Footballers not wanting to do their job in empty stadiums because of the snowflakes who are getting relegated

Testing scandal when people arent booking them

ITS BOLLOCKS - Get on with it 

Everything hasn't stopped because of the kids,  roughly a third of businesses operated as normal, or increased trade in the lockdown, a third carried on with reduced output and a third stopped altogether, for around 8 weeks, and those figures are going up now.

Kids get CV, proven everywhere.

The care homes have had 22 thousand EXTRA deaths, most in the last 5 weeks,  during the lcokdown , with family visits banned. I think that's pretty shocking.

There's roughly half a million in care homes, 1.5 million care home workers, and thousands of businesses that support them. If we carry on as we are, what do you think the residents of the care homes, the workers, the businesses and all their families are going to think and do, there will be millions of pissed off people. The virus spreads through society - one bloke socially distancing properley at work might prevent some care home deaths down the line - it's all linked.  

No government in the world thinks its bollocks apart from maybe Belarus, who's leader is a loon and thinks vodka, a tractor ride, a sauna and a game of ice hockey sorts it.  

[Horwich]

Lets just close everything for a few years, until they develop a vaccine.

Edited May 15, 2020 by Horwich

[peelyfeet]

Just now, Horwich said:

Lets just close everything for a few years, until they develop a vacine.

said no-one ever

 maybe try and improve protection for the vulnerable, work on getting some better medicine and work out how we can carry on as best we can. 

[radcliffe white]

Just now, Mr Grey said:

Dr Hilary should just specialise in fucking Crabs and VD.

He oozes serial womaniser 

[ProfessorWoland]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

One things to bear in mind with all this. We've got the infrastructure and the beds and the testing kits and the ventilators and the PPE. 

What we've not got is a load more critical care nurses, Doctors and ICU consultants. And they've been working flat out for the past 2 months.

You're supposed to get 18 month to 2 years training to be an ICU nurse.

That's been turned into a 2 hour briefing. 

 

 

 

[kent_white]

I work in testing at the moment. We've got more capacity than we know what to do with. The reality is that the numbers requiring testing have dropped significantly over the past month. As have the number of people requiring critical care.

If we are going to reopen the country in a staged way - then now seems like the logical time to do it.

We will have a second wave - without a vaccine there's no real way of avoiding one. What we need to work on now is training up critical care staff to deal with the new influx.

[kent_white]

1 minute ago, ProfessorWoland said:

You're supposed to get 18 month to 2 years training to be an ICU nurse.

That's been turned into a 2 hour briefing. 

 

 

 

That's not really true. I worked in HDU and all I got was supernumerary status for about 2 weeks.

You could work the ventilators with support from a senior nurse fairly easily. 

[peelyfeet]

1 minute ago, kent_white said:

I work in testing at the moment. We've got more capacity than we know what to do with. The reality is that the numbers requiring testing have dropped significantly over the past month. As have the number of people requiring critical care.

If we are going to reopen the country in a staged way - then now seems like the logical time to do it.

We will have a second wave - without a vaccine there's no real way of avoiding one. What we need to work on now is training up critical care staff to deal with the new influx.

need to get the tracking and tracing sorted IMO, that's what worked in S Korea - find out who's got it early - tell every fucker thats been near them asap, get them tested asap

[ProfessorWoland]

5 minutes ago, kent_white said:

That's not really true. I worked in HDU and all I got was supernumerary status for about 2 weeks.

You could work the ventilators with support from a senior nurse fairly easily. 

That was as per a theatre nurse at a NW Hospital. Don't know if they'd made different arrangements.   

Edited May 15, 2020 by ProfessorWoland