Coronavirus

[Tombwfc]

34 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Aye you willing to give up your work holidays? 

Teachers are still working at the moment, as I said before, it they want to pay overtime then yeah, go for it.. I doubt they will. Otherwise you can't just make someone work extra. 

 

I'm saying it might be an idea to consider two or three weeks as opposed to six. Or defer it, or start the holidays now and go back in July.

I'm not on a crusade to do over teachers. There's too much sniping at other people/professions going on at the minute, with teachers getting more than any.

That said, before this is all said and done millions of people are going to be seeing things cancelled, taking pay cuts, losing jobs and having to generally bite the bullet. Two weeks holiday and a secure, full-time job to go back to is a result. Especially if it stops people being forced back early.

If July is the time the country is re-opening, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to then immediately have kids back at home.

Edited May 18, 2020 by Tombwfc

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

I thought we had an agreement with France?

Minds changed a few days ago

[Tombwfc]

5 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

So back to the alleged cover up in Scotland

 

krankie has just been questioned on it. 
 

the reason why they didn’t reveal anything or notify the local health boards of those infected - because they may have been the only person in attendance at that event from a particular region and thus it would have made them identifiable to other attendees so for Patient confidentiality they couldn’t alert anyone to it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

10/10 for bullshit and originality. 

 

 

Seems utterly bizarre.

[Escobarp]

25 minutes ago, Casino said:

My contract says reasonable hours to get the job done

Joys of private sector working, I guess

My contract says 37.5 a week. I do about 50 on average minimum a week anywhere upto 60 plus night away when things are “normal”

 I don’t get overtime nor would I expect it. I do the hours I need to do my job to the best of my ability and to satisfy the demand from my clients. 
 

This pay me overtime and i will do more work culture is nonsense. 

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

 

Seems utterly bizarre.

It’s unbelievable. The more I hear about it the more it beggars belief. An outbreak in a capital city with attendees from all over the place and it was just allowed to go unannounced. Negligence on every conceivable level including sage and PHE it would appear?

[mickbrown]

7 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Minds changed a few days ago

Fuck. That’s my holiday potentially down the shitter 

[mickbrown]

3 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

My contract says 37.5 a week. I do about 50 on average minimum a week anywhere upto 60 plus night away when things are “normal”

 I don’t get overtime nor would I expect it. I do the hours I need to do my job to the best of my ability and to satisfy the demand from my clients. 
 

This pay me overtime and i will do more work culture is nonsense. 

My contract used to say reasonable hours, probably did 40 plus 

Then it was changed to 37.5 and I did 37.5 and not a minute more. There was nowt that couldn’t wait until tomorrow. 

[Escobarp]

5 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

My contract used to say reasonable hours, probably did 40 plus 

Then it was changed to 37.5 and I did 37.5 and not a minute more. There was nowt that couldn’t wait until tomorrow. 

Speaks volumes 👍🏼

[mickbrown]

Just now, Escobarp said:

Speaks volumes 👍🏼

That nobody takes me for a fool. 👍

[Escobarp]

Just now, mickbrown said:

That nobody takes me for a fool. 👍

If you say so mate

i prefer to think I get financially rewarded extremely well so going the extra mile for my employer and clients is simply part of the job. 

[Rudy]

Going above and beyond always helps with progression. If that’s what you want that this 

[Rudy]

4 hours ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Can you post pics on your lunch break?

got another 6 weeks yet😀
 

Here you go luv x

[mickbrown]

4 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

If you say so mate

i prefer to think I get financially rewarded extremely well so going the extra mile for my employer and clients is simply part of the job. 

Fair enough. They’re your hours you ain’t getting paid for, use them as you see fit. 

[Rudy]

5 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Fair enough. They’re your hours you ain’t getting paid for, use them as you see fit. 

Might be like me and be salaried. Has it’s positives and negatives

[boogs]

Have never understood this business of staying on doing extra hours every night for nowt being an expected practice. Place I deal with at work they get looks, comments and bit of a hard time if they leave at 5 when they finish. It's fully expected by their boss, who is a right bell suprise suprise, that they're there till 6/6.30. To my mind, that pick is making money from them in that extra work, so why should they not be paid for that time??

[Escobarp]

12 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said:

Going above and beyond always helps with progression. If that’s what you want that this 

Correct. It also vastly helps when The obscene bonuses are being handed out and making sure you’re at the front of that queue. I much prefer to put the effort in and get an average annual wage in my wage packet in the month of March 

but each to their own. If sitting at home Watching the chase is more preferable then whatever floats peoples boats really. 

Edited May 18, 2020 by Escobarp

[Guest]

26 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Fuck. That’s my holiday potentially down the shitter 

Ah, well

😎

[peelyfeet]

1 minute ago, Rudy’s Message said:

Might be like me and be salaried. Has it’s positives and negatives

Depends who you work for.

Most large organistions don't give a shit, you're just a number on a spreadsheet, who's fate is decided by a bean counter that's never met you or knows much about how hard you work.

Work for someone where your extra effort is valued and you have a higher chance of getting rewarded. If that company get's bought out, or goes through hard times, your extra effort still wont count as much as the bean counters strategy.

lesson - be a bean counter

[Escobarp]

3 minutes ago, boogs said:

Have never understood this business of staying on doing extra hours every night for nowt being an expected practice. Place I deal with at work they get looks, comments and bit of a hard time if they leave at 5 when they finish. It's fully expected by their boss, who is a right bell suprise suprise, that they're there till 6/6.30. To my mind, that pick is making money from them in that extra work, so why should they not be paid for that time??

I used to work in an office with exactly the same culture. I rarely stayed behind. Five o’clock was usually the latest I was there. I never took a lunch like most and I used to work at home when needed. 
 

im certainly not one for folk being rooted to their desks as it’s actually counter productive. But I am all for people going the extra mile. 
 

if the salary they are on doesn’t justify that though then overtime is absolutely appropriate but not in all cases imo 

[mickbrown]

2 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Ah, well

😎

Staycation is what the cool kids are doing 

[mickbrown]

9 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said:

Might be like me and be salaried. Has it’s positives and negatives

Aye might be. 
 

Not for me though ta. Like I said there’s never anything that can’t wait until tomorrow. 

[Rudy]

2 minutes ago, boogs said:

Have never understood this business of staying on doing extra hours every night for nowt being an expected practice. Place I deal with at work they get looks, comments and bit of a hard time if they leave at 5 when they finish. It's fully expected by their boss, who is a right bell suprise suprise, that they're there till 6/6.30. To my mind, that pick is making money from them in that extra work, so why should they not be paid for that time??

If you’re contracted to certain hours then it’s your choice if you want to come in on the money and leave on the bell. That’s fair enough, but doing that little bit extra won’t do any harm and a good boss should recognise it and repay you back through OT or time back or at the very least gratitude. 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

16 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Depends who you work for.

Most large organistions don't give a shit, you're just a number on a spreadsheet, who's fate is decided by a bean counter that's never met you or knows much about how hard you work.

Work for someone where your extra effort is valued and you have a higher chance of getting rewarded. If that company get's bought out, or goes through hard times, your extra effort still wont count as much as the bean counters strategy.

lesson - be a bean counter

I was just sbout to post similar. It depends which industry and which firms people work for, but there are places where people's hard work is just taken advantage of.

[Spider]

18 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Aye might be. 
 

Not for me though ta. Like I said there’s never anything that can’t wait until tomorrow. 

I thought you used to be a fire bobby?

If my house was on fire, I think I’d ring a different station 😳😳😳

[Tonge moor green jacket]

17 hours ago, only1swanny said:

The unions asked to see the science,  the government refused.. 

They interviewed a union boss this morning. He didn't have time to go into too much detail but said he had had much of his concern allayed. (Not all).

I got them impression that this was because of what evidence to scientists had provided.

For me, why don't teachers just wear a mask or some such (as I've said before, kids will just have to get used to it) and have a look at the situation for themselves.

If it's not right/safe then fuck it off.

I understand that unions are there to look after teachers' interests and rightly so, but in the same way as the government can't necessarily say every school has a construction that makes it possible to safely let the kids back, the unions can't say that it's not safe as a carte blanche message.

I just don't get why they can't agree a set of guidelines, look at which schools can safely follow them and go with that.

All that said, I don't buy too much into this clamour that poorer kids are dropping further back all the time. There's a good reason the schools were closed, but these same kids would be fucking it off whether in or out.