Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 Just now, Steejay said: We’ll be wearing full burka by January. That's why shamima is coming back- show us how. Quote
Jol_BWFC Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Covid has killed 0.007% of world population, less deadly than a bad seasonal influenza which can kill 0.0085% We haven’t reached the global peak yet, looking at the stats - more than 200k new cases a day at the moment. Imagine how bad it would have been without the lockdowns/restrictions... Plus, who knows what’s going to happen this winter. Quote
Guest Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/why-no-one-can-ever-recover-from-covid-19-in-england-a-statistical-anomaly/ Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, boltondiver said: https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/why-no-one-can-ever-recover-from-covid-19-in-england-a-statistical-anomaly/ That's a bit strange. Presumably the article is accurate, and if so, having no cut off time is crazy. Quote
Guest Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: That's a bit strange. Presumably the article is accurate, and if so, having no cut off time is crazy. Not been peer reviewed, but certainly interesting reading Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 Just now, boltondiver said: Not been peer reviewed, but certainly interesting reading Seems remarkable. Surely there's a cut off period or there isn't? An ceaselessly increasing number of deaths by that method. A 100% death rate (eventually) of confirmed cases. Quote
Spider Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 2 hours ago, gonzo said: Covid has killed 0.007% of world population, less deadly than a bad seasonal influenza which can kill 0.0085% But with a worldwide lockdown. imagine the havoc it could wreak if we carried on as normal? Quote
Guest Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 Just now, Spider said: But with a worldwide lockdown. imagine the havoc it could wreak if we carried on as normal? Sweden are doing ok Quote
Escobarp Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Spider said: But with a worldwide lockdown. imagine the havoc it could wreak if we carried on as normal? It’s only killing old folk and those who are going to die soon anyway in reality bar a small number of exceptions. majority of folk now I hear who test positive are asymptomatic would this be correct to assume? But it will run amok through the pisscan community shortly with the lack of masks 😁 be a fair few empty stools in the boozers in 2021. Quote
Escobarp Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 https://mobile.twitter.com/simondolan/status/1283729860154851329 Quote
Spider Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, Escobarp said: https://mobile.twitter.com/simondolan/status/1283729860154851329 Your mate Boris had it. you calling him a liar? Quote
Escobarp Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, Spider said: Your mate Boris had it. you calling him a liar? Where have I stated that I believe all of what is contained? my own personal experience is that the nhs has effectively shut down and large numbers of folk are dying due to an inability to get treatment. So I find some of it very pertinent. of course the virus exists. The chinks put it here. I’ve never disputed that and never will. Quote
Cheese Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 (edited) Preventative measures work, so in hindsight people think they were unnecessary. It's fucking idiotic. "Don't drive when you're drunk!" ... "I've spent the last few months not driving when I'm drunk, and nothing bad happened. Your warning was clearly unnecessary, so I'm going to start driving when I'm drunk." Edited July 16, 2020 by Cheese Quote
kent_white Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 13 hours ago, gonzo said: Covid has killed 0.007% of world population, less deadly than a bad seasonal influenza which can kill 0.0085% That's with about half of the world's industrialised nations in lockdown don't forget! Remove that and it would have looked a lot different. It's been extremely painful - but those measures have done exactly what they were designed to do. So far at least! Quote
Tombwfc Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 On 15/07/2020 at 07:57, MancWanderer said: And why would you want to? Who cares? How are our numbers doing? Up? Down? Why? "It's clear that the outcome has not been good in the UK, I think you can be absolutely clear about that. "It is clear you can see a band of countries that have done less well in the temperate zone. "Countries that are very well connected internationally, countries that have got population structures of a certain type. "There are many factors that are going to play in this as we look and say, 'what is it that makes some countries having done worse than others?', and there will be decisions made that will turn out not to have been the right decisions at the time." https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-sage-urged-govt-to-lockdown-a-week-earlier-uks-chief-scientific-adviser-says-12029956 Quote
Zico Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 10 hours ago, Escobarp said: https://mobile.twitter.com/simondolan/status/1283729860154851329 I don't get it Who is Simon Dolan and why does he need more people like this to come forward? Quote
Spider Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: I don't get it Who is Simon Dolan and why does he need more people like this to come forward? That is a curious tweet. Quote
Escobarp Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: I don't get it Who is Simon Dolan and why does he need more people like this to come forward? Because he believes,and folk who are communicating with him as alleged NHS staff, are saying that the nhs staff etc are currently sat with empty hospitals and not testing ill people. That’s how I read it. having see first hand the absolute clusterfuck they are making of treating my seriously ill mother I have to say it would seem to have some truth. ive just sat for 31 minutes on hold to the hospital whilst number one in a queue???? To get them , for the 4th day in a row of asking , to send the referral to the private hospital so we can get her seen. How you are number 1 and wait 31 minutes I’ve no idea and why when you are actually trying to remove a patient from their waiting list they cannot do it ive no idea. But everytime I ring the reason I get is covid. Next time one of them says it I’m going to ask them do they have it? Have they had it? If not then it’s not stopping you from doing a simple task is it so please fucking do it. You are paid to do and job I would really appreciate it if you fucking well did it and try and give people a chance of their family members being around at Xmas. Edited July 17, 2020 by Escobarp Quote
Zico Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Because he believes,and folk who are communicating with him as alleged NHS staff, are saying that the nhs staff etc are currently sat with empty hospitals and not testing ill people. That’s how I read it. Ok Why does the paramedic need to remain anonymous? If hospitals are empty, why can someone not just say so? There seem to be a lot of people in the replies, all with #kbf in their titles, that think there's a big cover up going on Quote
Escobarp Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: Ok Why does the paramedic need to remain anonymous? If hospitals are empty, why can someone not just say so? There seem to be a lot of people in the replies, all with #kbf in their titles, that think there's a big cover up going on I didn’t write the tweet mate so I’ve no idea like I say I’m seeing it first hand that nothing is happening. Nothing. Simple tasks not being done after weeks and folk are dying. Read into this FACT what you will Edited July 17, 2020 by Escobarp Quote
Sweep Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: Ok Why does the paramedic need to remain anonymous? If hospitals are empty, why can someone not just say so? There seem to be a lot of people in the replies, all with #kbf in their titles, that think there's a big cover up going on I rarely go on Twitter, as I find it's 99% inhabited by loons, I only ever delve into some of the threads that are posted on here to be honest. I do find though that I automatically "filter" anybody who has "#kbf" or who mentions "MSM" - I tend to find they think they're smarter/better than anybody else. That above thread is full of loons from both sides of the camp, some who think it doesn't exist at all and the death numbers are exaggerated , to some who think it's it's massively serious and the numbers are being kept low. Loons, the lot of them Quote
Zico Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Escobarp said: I didn’t write the tweet mate so I’ve no idea like I say I’m seeing it first hand that nothing is happening. Nothing. Simple tasks not being done after weeks and folk are dying. Read into this FACT what you will Aye, it sounds shit for you, though I wouldn't link your situation to one where covid doesn't exist and lockdown is unnecessary, which is what he's getting at Quote
Escobarp Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Sweep said: I rarely go on Twitter, as I find it's 99% inhabited by loons, I only ever delve into some of the threads that are posted on here to be honest. I do find though that I automatically "filter" anybody who has "#kbf" or who mentions "MSM" - I tend to find they think they're smarter/better than anybody else. That above thread is full of loons from both sides of the camp, some who think it doesn't exist at all and the death numbers are exaggerated , to some who think it's it's massively serious and the numbers are being kept low. Loons, the lot of them I only saw it as it was retweeted by a fairly high profile professional sportsman who is the mate of a poster on here as it happens i believe. Quote
peelyfeet Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, gonzo said: Covid has killed 0.007% of world population, less deadly than a bad seasonal influenza which can kill 0.0085% Haha - seen this type of thing loads of times We haven't had a flu season with covid yet, in many countries it's only been around for a few months, so how is it fair to measure a partial years data against a full years worth of historic data, it's like saying the average temperature of 2019 in England was lower than 2020, yeah but we aint had winter yet. anyway for the UK, its a load of bollocks Seasonal flu deaths UK 2015/16 7,371 16/17 15,047 17/18 22,087 18/19 3,996 19/20 7,990 up to March 2020 Total 56,491 Covid 45,119 and counting in 18 weeks - possibly over 55K if ONS stats are accurate, in 18 weeks - with a BIG DIRTY LOCKDOWN PAGE 54 https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/895233/Surveillance_Influenza_and_other_respiratory_viruses_in_the_UK_2019_to_2020_FINAL.pdf https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/annual-flu-reports Edited July 17, 2020 by peelyfeet Quote
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