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Kids Footy

Fleetwood Town "academy". Whats the craic? 

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  • 5 years on from my original OP, and ive not posted for yonks, so thought id share my lads journey here.   after the original question about fleetwood, the lad (now 15) had 12 months at burnley (a

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    Club presentation yesterday- me, my assistant coaches, a couple of academy kids who have come through the club, and about 70% of the kids I coach each week!   wish somebody had told me about

  • sorry- my bad; i'm here to get them enjoying themselves, to get them moving, and developing- with that comes the 'opportunities'. i try to start teams off, get them in with no structured experience- i

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6 minutes ago, royal white said:

Well that’s it, my lads last grassroots game is this Saturday as Salford have refused him and his team mates permission to carry on playing (even though the FA allow it).

Proper gutted, how anyone can think an extra game of footy with his mates is too much for an 11 year old is beyond me. Anyway it is what it is. 

Your lad is on Salford's books?  We had the same when the lad was at Accrington for a couple of years so I think it's probably standard practice.  It's a shame really as he really missed it, but can sort of understand why the club wants to look after them and not risk them being nobbled in another match.

8 minutes ago, DazBob said:

Your lad is on Salford's books?  We had the same when the lad was at Accrington for a couple of years so I think it's probably standard practice.  It's a shame really as he really missed it, but can sort of understand why the club wants to look after them and not risk them being nobbled in another match.

Nothing new here. My lad was at Burnley for 6 years (2003-09) and it was the same back then. He played for Burnley on Sundays and wasn't allowed to play for Bolton County and/or Mosley Common any longer.

7 minutes ago, DazBob said:

Your lad is on Salford's books?  We had the same when the lad was at Accrington for a couple of years so I think it's probably standard practice.  It's a shame really as he really missed it, but can sort of understand why the club wants to look after them and not risk them being nobbled in another match.

Well that’s the crazy thing, he’s allowed to play rugby or box if he wants. I know where the higher chance of getting injured is! 

Also regarding to much football, many academy’s (not sure if you had the same at accy) have 2 players in each position, so they’re only getting 40 mins. Hes now playing less football than he ever has. 

1 minute ago, Traf said:

Nothing new here. My lad was at Burnley for 6 years (2003-09) and it was the same back then. He played for Burnley on Sundays and wasn't allowed to play for Bolton County and/or Mosley Common any longer.

It’s recently changed with the FA, they have allowed it for Cat 3 academies. Salford have stopped it though (after allowing us last season) 

It’s about coaching too- a few clubs want them playing a particular way. 
 

It’s always been the case from U9, but the FA changed it to U12s a few years back, at the academies discretion. The worst practice is when they won’t retain, but refuse to release without compo, then you’ve got kids kept in purgatory. 
 

He’ll still be allowed to play representative football for school district etc, which I dunno if Salford Schoolboys will have a Year 7 team, usually runs from Years 8-10

Little lad has not long turned 3 and seems keen with his football. When’s best to get his involved with a team? Don’t want him being weird and riding skateboards and shite. 

Just now, bolton_blondie said:

Little lad has not long turned 3 and seems keen with his football. When’s best to get his involved with a team? Don’t want him being weird and riding skateboards and shite. 

 

depends on the lad IMO- but i'd look to get him going soon as

see if there is a local place like tiny tykes and diddikicks etc- they'll usually take from 18 months or so and work on ball and body mastery for while, organised games start at U7s, but clubs might start taking them from 5- i've got 3 aged 4

this is the kind of games etc they'll be doing

https://diddikicks.co.uk/find-classes

https://learn.englandfootball.com/courses/football/play-phase

2 hours ago, royal white said:

Also regarding to much football, many academy’s (not sure if you had the same at accy) have 2 players in each position, so they’re only getting 40 mins. Hes now playing less football than he ever has. 

Yep was the same for him. Made him fall out of love with football for a while.

Best thing that happened to him was when they released him. Started playing grass roots with his mates and started to love it again.

Hope your lad has a happier time.

1 hour ago, Dr Faustus said:

It’s about coaching too- a few clubs want them playing a particular way. 
 

It’s always been the case from U9, but the FA changed it to U12s a few years back, at the academies discretion. The worst practice is when they won’t retain, but refuse to release without compo, then you’ve got kids kept in purgatory. 
 

He’ll still be allowed to play representative football for school district etc, which I dunno if Salford Schoolboys will have a Year 7 team, usually runs from Years 8-10

Yes I 💯 agree with that however the academy coaching he received last year was abysmal. It’s good that MT has taken over as we have already seen an improvement. Hes had Dave flitcroft training him at GR, I can’t give the man enough praise, diamond bloke who lives and breathes GR. 

I think Salford starts at year 8, he’s buzzing for that (should he get in) there’s 3 academy lads, all wingers all in his class when he starts high school. Plenty of competition there! 

This came up on my memories when he was 8- tried using @Zico battlenips tool as a guide, but didn’t help

 

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Not for me either. 

EPL VAR says goal.

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7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

 

 

 

The keeper just like "wtf" 😆

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

 

 

 

No surprise given the stand they were in :)

 

On 31/08/2024 at 01:01, Dr Faustus said:

This came up on my memories when he was 8- tried using @Zico battlenips tool as a guide, but didn’t help

 

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Looks over line to me. 

My daughter's playing u12 now. First season where they play for points and league placings. First game was on Sunday against a team called Mill Hill from Blackburn way.

Jeez. Talk about a different vibe. Their girls threatening to kill our girls, their parents shouting over to see if anyone fancies a fight. Absolutely bonkers! 

Could hear one of their parents telling their girls to punch one of ours when the refs not looking - Abusing a 15 year old referee. It was proper toxic. My daughters team were a better set of players, but they were clearly intimidated and ended up drawing 2-2. Really soured things for me. 1 week after starting high school and they're getting that on a Sunday morning when they're supposed to having fun with their mates. 😞

9 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

My daughter's playing u12 now. First season where they play for points and league placings. First game was on Sunday against a team called Mill Hill from Blackburn way.

Jeez. Talk about a different vibe. Their girls threatening to kill our girls, their parents shouting over to see if anyone fancies a fight. Absolutely bonkers! 

Could hear one of their parents telling their girls to punch one of ours when the refs not looking - Abusing a 15 year old referee. It was proper toxic. My daughters team were a better set of players, but they were clearly intimidated and ended up drawing 2-2. Really soured things for me. 1 week after starting high school and they're getting that on a Sunday morning when they're supposed to having fun with their mates. 😞

Under 8s for mine now at the moment and it's all nice and friendly. Dreading the switch to what you've mentioned in the teen years

My lad is Under 15's now. Noticed a big change last year when into Under 14's.

Have to say, almost all lads themselves are still in it for the right reasons. The parents get worse though. If your kid hasn't been picked up by an Academy at this point, it almost certainly isn't happening. So chill out and enjoy watching your child have fun on a Sat / Sun morning. I just don't get it.

Some of the things I saw last season made my eyes bleed (though not as much as IE's Amy video)

U7's for my youngest this year. Had a few friendlies over the summer hols and played his first 'proper' match last week at Bolton Arena.

It's more tense than watching Wanderers Saturday afternoon! 

1 hour ago, BeeversLeftPeg said:

U7's for my youngest this year. Had a few friendlies over the summer hols and played his first 'proper' match last week at Bolton Arena.

It's more tense than watching Wanderers Saturday afternoon! 

😄

Had a few girls at work mention this about u13s and u14s girls being not as much fun (their words), 

Got one girl who's a man u fan but had a trial with bolton, she was gutted she didn't get in, 

The old man casting his watchful eye on proceedings last week.

Secretly fucking raging that there's girls playing and both teams were playing it out from the back :D

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16 hours ago, boltonboris said:

My daughter's playing u12 now. First season where they play for points and league placings. First game was on Sunday against a team called Mill Hill from Blackburn way.

Jeez. Talk about a different vibe. Their girls threatening to kill our girls, their parents shouting over to see if anyone fancies a fight. Absolutely bonkers! 

Could hear one of their parents telling their girls to punch one of ours when the refs not looking - Abusing a 15 year old referee. It was proper toxic. My daughters team were a better set of players, but they were clearly intimidated and ended up drawing 2-2. Really soured things for me. 1 week after starting high school and they're getting that on a Sunday morning when they're supposed to having fun with their mates. 😞

You’ll get used to it… personally I hate it, when Megs played I saw parents scrapping with coaches, linesmen abusing referees, grown adults stretching parent barriers… I love the coaching aspect, hate the managing.

 How did she get on at Salford Schools? That’s slightly better, but only just- 

Hang on- you once there’ threw your father in laws gloves at Lino 😂😂😂😂

 

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