Like a lot of us, I'm gagging to see this new team play.

 

does anyone know how the cuff you go about spending your tenner and getting access to the live stream?

3 minutes ago, Casino said:

I think people are arguing that its support for a political organisation are just looking for a reason to argue against it happening

I see the knee thing as support for a belief that blacks should get equal treatment, not that we should be supporting a crackpot fringe

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1 minute ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

So how long do we continue with it

permanently? 

I've seen enough of it.

Everyone with an ounce of decency knows that black lives matter and why they're protesting, but I don't need to see it everytime I turn the fucking telly on.

Wife had BGT on last night and Diversity (all of them are black, so not that diverse) did a piece all about "the struggle" including replicating the Floyd incident. That's not fucking entertainment, that's ramming a cause down our throats.

3 minutes ago, Casino said:

I think people are arguing that its support for a political organisation are just looking for a reason to argue against it happening

I see the knee thing as support for a belief that blacks should get equal treatment, not that we should be supporting a crackpot fringe

Players get equal treatment. Never, ever done or said anything untoward towards anyone from any nation or of any colour. Clubs have made huge strides and efforts in this regard over the years.

If players still want to make a protest, I'd rather they take a more formal and peaceful protest where others can join them away from football. Damned right it shouldn't be happening before every game.

 

2 minutes ago, Traf said:

I've seen enough of it.

Everyone with an ounce of decency knows that black lives matter and why they're protesting, but I don't need to see it everytime I turn the fucking telly on.

Wife had BGT on last night and Diversity (all of them are black, so not that diverse) did a piece all about "the struggle" including replicating the Floyd incident. That's not fucking entertainment, that's ramming a cause down our throats.

We had it solid for a period news, football games, Martin Lewis show and even on bleeding Fifa!

but we had the option to turn off 

just hope someone has the balls to knock it 

1 minute ago, Traf said:

I've seen enough of it.

Everyone with an ounce of decency knows that black lives matter and why they're protesting, but I don't need to see it everytime I turn the fucking telly on.

Wife had BGT on last night and Diversity (all of them are black, so not that diverse) did a piece all about "the struggle" including replicating the Floyd incident. That's not fucking entertainment, that's ramming a cause down our throats.

Agreed

 

Just now, radcliffewhite1 said:

We had it solid for a period news, football games, Martin Lewis show and even on bleeding Fifa!

but we had the option to turn off 

just hope someone has the balls to knock it 

Needs some players with the balls to not kneel.

James McClean could be the one...

10 minutes ago, Casino said:

I think people are arguing that its support for a political organisation are just looking for a reason to argue against it happening

I see the knee thing as support for a belief that blacks should get equal treatment, not that we should be supporting a crackpot fringe

I don't need a reason to be arguing against it happening but it won't bring me to the point of making a counter protest against it either. It was done originally & made its point now its just wearisome & getting to the point where its pissing reasonable people off & will end up having a counter productive outcome. 

25 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Spot on

when it was kicking off months back you had the option to turn your tv over but when I’m paying my money to watch a football match I don’t want that

Close your eyes for 10 seconds. 

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Close your eyes for 10 seconds. 

Will you be kneeling in the cinema? 😁

23 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

I hope they carry on doing it. It’s a good way to show solidarity. All racism needs to be called out. 

Just like all acts of terrorism needs to have a candle lit, a prayer said, a Facebook profile changing to include the flag of whichever country said terrorism took place, the list of things done to “call out” terrorism goes on. 
 

Tell me though, how does a field full of players kneeling help? In fact, look at where the bended  knee first became prevalent in current affairs; those same black sportsmen ignoring the convention of standing for your country’s National Anthem. Well, now they managed to talk white sportsmen into taking that same knee. Where does it stop? 

Arthritis would be my guess 😂

8 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Players doing it in the first place makes it political ffs!

Was any of this in Football before CV, was it fuck! We had and still have the 'Kick it Out' racism campaign! 

Like most on here are saying, fuck off, we've had enough and we just want to go wat thing football without all the political circus that's around in society.

FOOTBALL is a release, you wake up get your clobber on, head to the train station or pub to meet your mates and going watch your team win, lose or draw. 

I don't feel like it's a political statement at all. Not at the football at least. Seems to me it's just a bunch of young lads expressing themselves about racism. Doubt they've given a seconds thought to whether there's a latent nefarious political ideology pulling the strings from afar.

Turn your back and a lot of people will just assume you're a racist. And then we'll get the inevitable backlash. And then the players will keep on doing it to prove a point. And then we'll have yet another cultural splitting point.

Anyway - it's your back. You do what you think is best. I think what you said about staying behind the stands untill the whole thing is over is probably the most sensible thing!

I'll just be glad when we can get back to normal

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

People are seriously considering 'turning their back' in protest? I bet none of you actually do it on match day. And if you do it'll mark you out as a massive bellend.

No it won’t, it will mark me out as someone who is sick of this woke society full of people like you who are happy to be conned along by disruptive organisations like BLM using this silly gesture as a political tool. What happened in America should be sorted in America. Our police in Bolton don’t go around throttling people or shooting them in the back, black or white. Both were terrible and should be investigated in the USA but I’m going to a football match and I don’t need to be confronted by a racist, political action before every game starts. I hope everybody who is against this pathetic embarrassment will stand up, turn their back and even boo until it’s put to an end.

14 minutes ago, kent_white said:

 

Turn your back and a lot of people will just assume you're a racist. 

 

Whereas the other suggestions I’ve heard today, starting two oft-heard Chants:

Stand Up, For The Wanderers

or maybe worse

Come On You Whites

 

Both have their place at Bolton games but can you imagine the backlash if either of these two plus one or two other regulars, (White Army!, etc.) started right at that point?

57 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

Delfounso obviously felt strongly enough about it to raise a fist as well as take a knee.  As a Wanderers fan why would you not want to show support for how one of our own is feeling?  As a human being, why wouldn't you?

Are you completely thick, taking the knee was in support of George Floyd, raising the fist is a black power gesture. There’s a world of difference between the two. If a player remained standing and gave a nazi salute, how would you feel about that?

57 minutes ago, Traf said:

I've seen enough of it.

Everyone with an ounce of decency knows that black lives matter and why they're protesting, but I don't need to see it everytime I turn the fucking telly on.

Wife had BGT on last night and Diversity (all of them are black, so not that diverse) did a piece all about "the struggle" including replicating the Floyd incident. That's not fucking entertainment, that's ramming a cause down our throats.

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9 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Whereas the other suggestions I’ve heard today, starting two oft-heard Chants:

Stand Up, For The Wanderers

or maybe worse

Come On You Whites

 

Both have their place at Bolton games but can you imagine the backlash if either of these two plus one or two other regulars, (White Army!, etc.) started right at that point?

Stand up for the Wanderers would at least be a message that the vast majority don't stand with the woke warriors and their relentless browbeating and agenda.

1 hour ago, Traf said:

I've seen enough of it.

Everyone with an ounce of decency knows that black lives matter and why they're protesting, but I don't need to see it everytime I turn the fucking telly on.

Wife had BGT on last night and Diversity (all of them are black, so not that diverse) did a piece all about "the struggle" including replicating the Floyd incident. That's not fucking entertainment, that's ramming a cause down our throats.

I immediately wondered what UK police would have thought of having mostly white guest dancers acting out the part of aggressive cop while the black dancers portrayed the submissive group the cops were down-treading. They didn’t portray the black kids refusing to follow the cop’s instructions or the looters. Strange that!

47 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I don't feel like it's a political statement at all. Not at the football at least. Seems to me it's just a bunch of young lads expressing themselves about racism. Doubt they've given a seconds thought to whether there's a latent nefarious political ideology pulling the strings from afar.

Turn your back and a lot of people will just assume you're a racist. And then we'll get the inevitable backlash. And then the players will keep on doing it to prove a point. And then we'll have yet another cultural splitting point.

Anyway - it's your back. You do what you think is best. I think what you said about staying behind the stands untill the whole thing is over is probably the most sensible thing!

I'll just be glad when we can get back to normal

‘Taking the knee’ is not a political statement’ ? What is it then a warm up exercise?

Like all fans, players will all have their own political views let’s keep it that way, I would boo to show that however worthy the cause I don’t need to know their politics or opinions, I’ve paid to watch a football match nothing more nothing less

1 hour ago, Whitesince63 said:

Are you completely thick, taking the knee was in support of George Floyd, raising the fist is a black power gesture. There’s a world of difference between the two. If a player remained standing and gave a nazi salute, how would you feel about that?

In todays climate, there's no world of difference at all.  Delfounso, and several other players, and people in general, have felt strongly enough about current circumstances to do both.

You then compare that gesture to someone doing a Nazi salute and ask if I'm thick? 😅

1 hour ago, Whitesince63 said:

No it won’t, it will mark me out as someone who is sick of this woke society full of people like you who are happy to be conned along by disruptive organisations like BLM using this silly gesture as a political tool. What happened in America should be sorted in America. Our police in Bolton don’t go around throttling people or shooting them in the back, black or white. Both were terrible and should be investigated in the USA but I’m going to a football match and I don’t need to be confronted by a racist, political action before every game starts. I hope everybody who is against this pathetic embarrassment will stand up, turn their back and even boo until it’s put to an end.

We're booing it now as well are we?

Fuck me! 😂😂😂

Edited September 6, 20205 yr by kent_white

1 hour ago, Whitesince63 said:

Are you completely thick, taking the knee was in support of George Floyd, raising the fist is a black power gesture. There’s a world of difference between the two. If a player remained standing and gave a nazi salute, how would you feel about that?

Wow

just wow

 

I will not be preached to by "I fucked off to Switzerland the minute I made some money" Lewis Hamilton, when I see him take the knee and put his fist in the air I want to puke

Another thread ruined by politics.