Site Supporter Winchester White Posted July 8 Site Supporter Share Posted July 8 Cunts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted July 8 Moderators Share Posted July 8 38 minutes ago, Winchester White said: Cunts Maybe Top Ukraine bods are hiding there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 2 minutes ago, Zico said: Maybe Top Ukraine bods are hiding there Yeah this is fine. We established this in Gaza the other week! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted July 8 Members Share Posted July 8 There might be more merit to the comparison if the fighting in this conflict were occurring within a 25 square mile radius and against an army with a history of locating its military infrastructure within the civilian population Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted July 8 Members Share Posted July 8 And that's not a defence of Israel's actions either, it's recognition that there are factors at play in Gaza that aren't at play in Kyiv This is an unquestionably deliberate targeting of a children's hospital Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 6 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: And that's not a defence of Israel's actions either, it's recognition that there are factors at play in Gaza that aren't at play in Kyiv This is an unquestionably deliberate targeting of a children's hospital Facetious comment from me clearly. But it's a similar principle. Russia clearly thought that destroying a children's hospital was worth the cost in lives. In the same way that Israel thought it was when they attacked a school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 1 hour ago, Winchester White said: Cunts https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9KUPXiskSk/?igsh=MTkzMWt5dnBobW5lYQ== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted July 8 Members Share Posted July 8 2 minutes ago, kent_white said: Facetious comment from me clearly. But it's a similar principle. Russia clearly thought that destroying a children's hospital was worth the cost in lives. In the same way that Israel thought it was when they attacked a school. It was an ex-UNRWA school building rather than a school, allegedly housing refugees, allegedly housing militants; the almost certain truth is that it was housing both Depending upon the make up of the above, and despite any moral objections any of us might have, there's a plausible possibility there might be justification under international law for a strike on that building (and, of course, there could be no justification whatsoever and it was a war crime) The children's hospital in Ukraine, however, was literally hundreds of miles from the conflict zone and there's been no suggestion at all that there was any military presence within Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 23 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: It was an ex-UNRWA school building rather than a school, allegedly housing refugees, allegedly housing militants; the almost certain truth is that it was housing both Depending upon the make up of the above, and despite any moral objections any of us might have, there's a plausible possibility there might be justification under international law for a strike on that building (and, of course, there could be no justification whatsoever and it was a war crime) The children's hospital in Ukraine, however, was literally hundreds of miles from the conflict zone and there's been no suggestion at all that there was any military presence within I'm pretty sure Russia will claim that this was allegedly housing military infrastructure or acted as a training base of some sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted July 8 Members Share Posted July 8 5 minutes ago, kent_white said: I'm pretty sure Russia will claim that this was allegedly housing military infrastructure or acted as a training base of some sort. But it'd be bollocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeane Koontz Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: There might be more merit to the comparison if the fighting in this conflict were occurring within a 25 square mile radius and against an army with a history of locating its military infrastructure within the civilian population Killing kids is killing kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted July 8 Members Share Posted July 8 Just now, deeane Koontz said: Killing kids is killing kids. No shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 8 Site Supporter Share Posted July 8 3 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: There might be more merit to the comparison if the fighting in this conflict were occurring within a 25 square mile radius and against an army with a history of locating its military infrastructure within the civilian population Such clarity of thought gets lost sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 8 Site Supporter Share Posted July 8 1 hour ago, deeane Koontz said: Killing kids is killing kids. Indeed. Maybe taking out the terrorists in Gaza has saved many children. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Indeed. Maybe taking out the terrorists in Gaza has saved many children. I very much doubt that...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 5 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: But it'd be bollocks I'm not so sure it would be. Inhumane as they are - I can't imagine Russia intentionally targeting a children's hospital without any military intelligence underpin. Just like Israel say they had when they attacked the school (or former school housing refugees - whatever you want to call it). They made the calculation that the human cost was worth it. So in that sense I think my comparison stands. Whether it's 100 metres from the front line or 1000 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted July 8 Members Share Posted July 8 30 minutes ago, kent_white said: I'm not so sure it would be. Inhumane as they are - I can't imagine Russia intentionally targeting a children's hospital without any military intelligence underpin. Just like Israel say they had when they attacked the school (or former school housing refugees - whatever you want to call it). They made the calculation that the human cost was worth it. So in that sense I think my comparison stands. Whether it's 100 metres from the front line or 1000 miles. Fair enough, although we'll have to agree to disagree There's no evidence I'm aware of the suggests Ukraine hide their military in children's hospitals, but if it proves to be the case I'll hold my hands up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted July 8 Site Supporter Share Posted July 8 37 minutes ago, kent_white said: I'm not so sure it would be. Inhumane as they are - I can't imagine Russia intentionally targeting a children's hospital without any military intelligence underpin. Just like Israel say they had when they attacked the school (or former school housing refugees - whatever you want to call it). They made the calculation that the human cost was worth it. So in that sense I think my comparison stands. Whether it's 100 metres from the front line or 1000 miles. Why would military personnel be hidden hundreds of miles from the front line in a hospital? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted July 8 Share Posted July 8 36 minutes ago, Winchester White said: Why would military personnel be hidden hundreds of miles from the front line in a hospital? I don't know. The only time I've heard something like this from the Ukraine war was Russia targeting civilian infrastructure that they claimed were being used by Ukraine to train their people and/or were housing foreign mercenaries. I can only assume it's something similar this time around. Unless they have just gone absolutely bat shit crazy. Which is another possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted July 8 Site Supporter Share Posted July 8 Isn’t there a big NATO meeting this week? Timing is everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitestar Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 I'm no military expert and have no interest in politics but the 1st thing that crossed my mind when Rishi Sunak announced the election was that he knew some serious sh*t was going to go down with Russia and he wanted no part in it or was too scared of what was going to happen. Hopefully I'm totally wrong but seems like something is brewing now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 8 minutes ago, Whitestar said: I'm no military expert and have no interest in politics but the 1st thing that crossed my mind when Rishi Sunak announced the election was that he knew some serious sh*t was going to go down with Russia and he wanted no part in it or was too scared of what was going to happen. Hopefully I'm totally wrong but seems like something is brewing now. Or put another way, Sunak is a spineless weasel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted July 9 Site Supporter Share Posted July 9 15 minutes ago, Whitestar said: I'm no military expert and have no interest in politics but the 1st thing that crossed my mind when Rishi Sunak announced the election was that he knew some serious sh*t was going to go down with Russia and he wanted no part in it or was too scared of what was going to happen. Hopefully I'm totally wrong but seems like something is brewing now. If we can just hang on until the american elections, Trump has said he'll sort it within 48 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 24 minutes ago, Spider said: If we can just hang on until the american elections, Trump has said he'll sort it within 48 hours. I think he'd have more chance of engaging than sleepy Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted July 9 Site Supporter Share Posted July 9 Trump will just give Putin what he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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