Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Winchester White]

Cunts

 

[Zico]

38 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Cunts

 

Maybe Top Ukraine bods are hiding there 

[kent_white]

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

Maybe Top Ukraine bods are hiding there 

Yeah this is fine. We established this in Gaza the other week! 👍

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

There might be more merit to the comparison if the fighting in this conflict were occurring within a 25 square mile radius and against an army with a history of locating its military infrastructure within the civilian population

 

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

And that's not a defence of Israel's actions either, it's recognition that there are factors at play in Gaza that aren't at play in Kyiv

This is an unquestionably deliberate targeting of a children's hospital

[kent_white]

6 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

And that's not a defence of Israel's actions either, it's recognition that there are factors at play in Gaza that aren't at play in Kyiv

This is an unquestionably deliberate targeting of a children's hospital

Facetious comment from me clearly. But it's a similar principle. Russia clearly thought that destroying a children's hospital was worth the cost in lives. In the same way that Israel thought it was when they attacked a school. 

[kent_white]

1 hour ago, Winchester White said:

Cunts

 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9KUPXiskSk/?igsh=MTkzMWt5dnBobW5lYQ==

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

2 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Facetious comment from me clearly. But it's a similar principle. Russia clearly thought that destroying a children's hospital was worth the cost in lives. In the same way that Israel thought it was when they attacked a school. 

It was an ex-UNRWA school building rather than a school, allegedly housing refugees, allegedly housing militants; the almost certain truth is that it was housing both

Depending upon the make up of the above, and despite any moral objections any of us might have, there's a plausible possibility there might be justification under international law for a strike on that building (and, of course, there could be no justification whatsoever and it was a war crime)

The children's hospital in Ukraine, however, was literally hundreds of miles from the conflict zone and there's been no suggestion at all that there was any military presence within

[kent_white]

23 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

It was an ex-UNRWA school building rather than a school, allegedly housing refugees, allegedly housing militants; the almost certain truth is that it was housing both

Depending upon the make up of the above, and despite any moral objections any of us might have, there's a plausible possibility there might be justification under international law for a strike on that building (and, of course, there could be no justification whatsoever and it was a war crime)

The children's hospital in Ukraine, however, was literally hundreds of miles from the conflict zone and there's been no suggestion at all that there was any military presence within

I'm pretty sure Russia will claim that this was allegedly housing military infrastructure or acted as a training base of some sort.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

5 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I'm pretty sure Russia will claim that this was allegedly housing military infrastructure or acted as a training base of some sort.

But it'd be bollocks

[deeane Koontz]

1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

There might be more merit to the comparison if the fighting in this conflict were occurring within a 25 square mile radius and against an army with a history of locating its military infrastructure within the civilian population

 

 

Killing kids is killing kids.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Just now, deeane Koontz said:

Killing kids is killing kids.

No shit

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

There might be more merit to the comparison if the fighting in this conflict were occurring within a 25 square mile radius and against an army with a history of locating its military infrastructure within the civilian population

 

 

Such clarity of thought gets lost sadly.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, deeane Koontz said:

Killing kids is killing kids.

Indeed. Maybe taking out the terrorists in Gaza has saved many children.

 

[kent_white]

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Indeed. Maybe taking out the terrorists in Gaza has saved many children.

 

I very much doubt that......

[kent_white]

5 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

But it'd be bollocks

I'm not so sure it would be. Inhumane as they are - I can't imagine Russia intentionally targeting a children's hospital without any military intelligence underpin. Just like Israel say they had when they attacked the school (or former school housing refugees - whatever you want to call it). 

They made the calculation that the human cost was worth it. So in that sense I think my comparison stands. Whether it's 100 metres from the front line or 1000 miles. 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

30 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I'm not so sure it would be. Inhumane as they are - I can't imagine Russia intentionally targeting a children's hospital without any military intelligence underpin. Just like Israel say they had when they attacked the school (or former school housing refugees - whatever you want to call it). 

They made the calculation that the human cost was worth it. So in that sense I think my comparison stands. Whether it's 100 metres from the front line or 1000 miles. 

Fair enough, although we'll have to agree to disagree

There's no evidence I'm aware of the suggests Ukraine hide their military in children's hospitals, but if it proves to be the case I'll hold my hands up

[Winchester White]

37 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I'm not so sure it would be. Inhumane as they are - I can't imagine Russia intentionally targeting a children's hospital without any military intelligence underpin. Just like Israel say they had when they attacked the school (or former school housing refugees - whatever you want to call it). 

They made the calculation that the human cost was worth it. So in that sense I think my comparison stands. Whether it's 100 metres from the front line or 1000 miles. 

Why would military personnel be hidden hundreds of miles from the front line in a hospital?

[kent_white]

36 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Why would military personnel be hidden hundreds of miles from the front line in a hospital?

I don't know. 

The only time I've heard something like this from the Ukraine war was Russia targeting civilian infrastructure that they claimed were being used by Ukraine to train their people and/or were housing foreign mercenaries. 

I can only assume it's something similar this time around. Unless they have just gone absolutely bat shit crazy. Which is another possibility.

[Spider]

Isn’t there a big NATO meeting this week?

Timing is everything

[Whitestar]

I'm no military expert and have no interest in politics but the 1st thing that crossed my mind when Rishi Sunak announced the election was that he knew some serious sh*t was going to go down with Russia and he wanted no part in it or was too scared of what was going to happen.

Hopefully I'm totally wrong but seems like something is brewing now.

[Farrelli]

8 minutes ago, Whitestar said:

I'm no military expert and have no interest in politics but the 1st thing that crossed my mind when Rishi Sunak announced the election was that he knew some serious sh*t was going to go down with Russia and he wanted no part in it or was too scared of what was going to happen.

Hopefully I'm totally wrong but seems like something is brewing now.

Or put another way, Sunak is a spineless weasel.

[Spider]

15 minutes ago, Whitestar said:

I'm no military expert and have no interest in politics but the 1st thing that crossed my mind when Rishi Sunak announced the election was that he knew some serious sh*t was going to go down with Russia and he wanted no part in it or was too scared of what was going to happen.

Hopefully I'm totally wrong but seems like something is brewing now.

If we can just hang on until the american elections, Trump has said he'll sort it within 48 hours.

 

[gonzo]

24 minutes ago, Spider said:

If we can just hang on until the american elections, Trump has said he'll sort it within 48 hours.

 

I think he'd have more chance of engaging than sleepy Joe.

[Winchester White]

Trump will just give Putin what he wants.