kent_white Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 8 minutes ago, royal white said: Ok let’s go full on in then. But before we do lets make sure that Ukraine call up fighting age males. Currently the average age of their front line is 45, they’ve got blokes in their 50s on the front line whilst they have lads in their 20s pissing up clubbing every weekend. Get a proper front line together instead of middle aged men digging in. Let’s get these fuckers wanting to fight for their country. In 1939 over a million men signed up for us. When Ukraine got invaded 700k ran off to Europe. People comparing us to them is embarrassing I agree with you there! I think the failure to persuade Ukraine to conscript younger people has to be seen aa a reasonable criticism of Zelensky. And something I've always been surprised about given how hard, talented and resourceful the ones who have been fighting have proven themsleves to be. Quote
Not in Crawley Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 10 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: We (the west) refused to supply them with the equipment they needed to drive the Russians out so a land settlement was always going to be the result of a negotiated peace. The Ruskies would never withdraw without force. I fear it’s now a case of how much land and at what cost. I'm not so sure. I actually think the current US administration will galvanise Europe. Ukraine shouldn't give an inch of land away to an aggressor. Quote
wanderer1984 Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 12 minutes ago, Spider said: Jesus don’t let the rangers fans hear you say that. Rangers fans? You've lost me Quote
Zico Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 46 minutes ago, royal white said: Well it would have save many lives and billions of dollars for what’s looking like the same outcome. Ok There it is The way to avoid war Let an aggressor take what they want if they tell you they'll go to war if you don't It's almost like Putin saying Hey Ukraine, I've got a peace deal for you Give me land or I'm invading Ok, please don't, have the Donbas, just promise not to ask for any more I won't Hey, Latvia, I've got a peace deal for you Erm, no thanks Look it's going to save you and Europe loads of money if you just hand over Riga to me Well when you put it like that Great Right, this is easier than I thought, let's go back to Ukraine for some more Quote
wanderer1984 Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 16 minutes ago, Zico said: None of them involve Trump getting anything out of it so none of them are realistic If we forget trump hasn't got back into power, preferably option 1, more likely option 2 and if Ukraine decide to surrender of their own free will, option 3 But if Trump is a puppet to Putin which is what's suggested on here it doesn't really matter what he does or thinks ... it won't be backed by the rest of Europe and Ukraine right? Quote
royal white Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 4 minutes ago, Zico said: Ok There it is The way to avoid war Let an aggressor take what they want if they tell you they'll go to war if you don't It's almost like Putin saying Hey Ukraine, I've got a peace deal for you Give me land or I'm invading Ok, please don't, have the Donbas, just promise not to ask for any more I won't Hey, Latvia, I've got a peace deal for you Erm, no thanks Look it's going to save you and Europe loads of money if you just hand over Riga to me Well when you put it like that Great Right, this is easier than I thought, let's go back to Ukraine for some more Or we can just let them have the land they have already claimed whilst carrying on fighting costing money and lives. What makes more sense to you. Billions of pounds and 1000s of deaths or an agreement for the same outcome? Quote
London Wanderer Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 1 hour ago, royal white said: ill go for MS Really Always had you down as more of Help for Russian veterans kind of guy x Quote
royal white Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 27 minutes ago, Cheese said: For a load of blokes in their 50's, they've done a pretty good job of holding the Russians at bay for 3 years, when they were expecting to waltz into Kyiv within a week. With the best equipment money can buy I wouldn’t expect anything less. Especially against a rag tag army. Quote
London Wanderer Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 1 hour ago, royal white said: So you should be you weak individual😉 What's this mate? Quote
royal white Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Really Always had you down as more of Help for Russian veterans kind of guy x No I will let @Zico pay a grand to them if he wants to show his stats Quote
Not in Crawley Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 Just now, London Wanderer said: What's this mate? Looks like a visual representation of his posts. Quote
royal white Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 1 minute ago, London Wanderer said: What's this mate? Stamina 😉 as you mentioned Quote
London Wanderer Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 1 minute ago, royal white said: No I will let @Zico pay a grand to them if he wants to show his stats What the hell is going on You've lost the plot 😂 night x Quote
Zico Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 2 minutes ago, royal white said: Or we can just let them have the land they have already claimed whilst carrying on fighting costing money and lives. What makes more sense to you. Billions of pounds and 1000s of deaths or an agreement for the same outcome? Fight back Every time Putin is responsible for the deaths and money spent on both sides He shouldn't be able then end it on his terms, and end up better off for it Quote
London Wanderer Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 Just now, royal white said: Stamina 😉 as you mentioned I don't doubt it fella Was very impressed by your 5k times. Just stop talking shite on here and put that energy to good use x Quote
Spider Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 (edited) 17 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said: Rangers fans? You've lost me Don’t worry, may be that you don’t bother with scotch football. But imagine the fuss if the Republican of Ireland invaded the north and trump said it was best all round if they kept it. just imagine. Edited February 20, 2025 by Spider Quote
Not in Crawley Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 They're not that good. And I'm a big puff who works in theatre and is older than him. Quote
royal white Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 1 minute ago, Zico said: Fight back Every time Putin is responsible for the deaths and money spent on both sides He shouldn't be able then end it on his terms, and end up better off for it Fight Back 😂😂 with OAPS on the front line? Ukraine are being giving billions whilst having dads army on the front line Quote
royal white Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: I don't doubt it fella Was very impressed by your 5k times. Just stop talking shite on here and put that energy to good use x Now you’re being silly! Quote
royal white Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 7 minutes ago, Zico said: Fight back Every time Putin is responsible for the deaths and money spent on both sides He shouldn't be able then end it on his terms, and end up better off for it See America and Uk in Iraq and Afghan Quote
Zico Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 1 minute ago, royal white said: Fight Back 😂😂 with OAPS on the front line? Ukraine are being giving billions whilst having dads army on the front line It's been working OAPs v Russian Rag Tags Pushed them back from Kiev back to the east Keep going If Putin thought he could win he wouldn't be looking for a "peace deal" And if we flip this round Why has Putin not entertained a peace deal in the last 3 years Considering you told us they keep on advancing Quote
London Wanderer Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 3 minutes ago, royal white said: Now you’re being silly! I remember you posting them on an exercise thread... very good they were I thought I was doing alright keeping it under 25mins Quote
Zico Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 1 minute ago, royal white said: See America and Uk in Iraq and Afghan I didn't agree with them either They don't justify this Quote
London Wanderer Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 Just now, Zico said: It's been working OAPs v Russian Rag Tags Pushed them back from Kiev back to the east Keep going If Putin thought he could win he wouldn't be looking for a "peace deal" And if we flip this round Why has Putin not entertained a peace deal in the last 3 years Considering you told us they keep on advancing You could easily direct Royal's peculiar hysterical laughter at the Russian front line. Dragging in North Korean prisoners at one point. Quote
London Wanderer Posted February 20, 2025 Posted February 20, 2025 (edited) 4 minutes ago, royal white said: See America and Uk in Iraq and Afghan What's with the constant whatboutery... doesn't excuse letting Putin have what he wants. Do you honestly believe it's wise to give him what he wants? You can tell me in the morning 🙂 Edited February 20, 2025 by London Wanderer Quote
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