Is it kicking off big time or is this just everyday stuff they deal with or a bit of both?

 

It's also important to remember criticism of the Israeli government isn't criticism of Jews as a people.

Only completely unhinged folk on the left try and blame Israeli tactics on all Jews and their just as backwards as the right wing lunatics who blame the world's ills on George Soros and his secret cabal of Jewish overlords 

1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

Whatabout….😊

Just for balance really as I don’t remember your posts about the frequent times this government have evaded scrutiny and attempted to dodge enquiries. Funny that🤔

Hamas are absolute cunts that goes without saying.

You'd also have to be willfully ignorant or suffering from severe CTE to disregard how the Israel government treat Palestinians. 

Rip the thousands of innocent folk which will die on both sides here.

There will be human extinction before these two get along. 

 

 

12 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Just for balance really as I don’t remember your posts about the frequent times this government have evaded scrutiny and attempted to dodge enquiries. Funny that🤔

Not funny at all. Plenty on here doing that. Doesn’t need another. Never defended them against all the accusations either.

The stories coming out of what went on at that dance festival are horrible, over 250 bodies found at that site fucking hell.

2 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

The stories coming out of what went on at that dance festival are horrible, over 250 bodies found at that site fucking hell.

Just listening to a guy on Jeremy Vine. Same one ? 
Clear that they targeted the festival, attacked from 2 sides and blocked exit roads. 
 

Horrific. 

well if the comms we have had this morning are typical, israel have lost some serious hardware over the weekend but theres clearly no shortage of funds to replace

8 minutes ago, Ani said:

Just listening to a guy on Jeremy Vine. Same one ? 
Clear that they targeted the festival, attacked from 2 sides and blocked exit roads. 
 

Horrific. 

Yeah there, mass rapes and executions, some of the bodies paraded around the streets including that German girl Shani Louk. They were just fucking kids many of them.

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1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

Not funny at all. Plenty on here doing that. Doesn’t need another. Never defended them against all the accusations either.

Nor have you condemned them. just posted some other stuff about Labour.  They are not accusations either. They went to court to prevent all whatsApps messages being handed over as requested by the head of the enquiry. Same as in the Sue Gray enquiry. If you want an example of slippery fuckers look no further than your beloved Tories. 

 

15 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Nor have you condemned them. just posted some other stuff about Labour.  They are not accusations either. They went to court to prevent all whatsApps messages being handed over as requested by the head of the enquiry. Same as in the Sue Gray enquiry. If you want an example of slippery fuckers look no further than your beloved Tories. 

Nice deflection from the article I posted by the Guardian on the eve of the Labour Party conference. Doubt they are Tory lovers. Don’t shoot the messenger. 

3 hours ago, Spider said:

I can teach you how to change your mind, if you like?

you’ll get a fair bit of stick, but be always true unto yourself.

Nah thanks, I've got a reasonably balanced grasp of the situation, and don't think there's anything to change my mind over.

Over the last 100 years or so, both groups have had their fair share of shit. Some of it as a result of geopolitics around the wars.

Both groups with justified complaints.

Both groups have committed what would be described now as terrorist attacks.

As for the the present day, there is undoubtedly a proxy "war" going on, and Israel has every right to go and kick some ass over there. The behaviour of Hamas and Hezbollah is beyond terrorism and is genocidal. They deserve to be crushed.

1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

Nice deflection from the article I posted by the Guardian on the eve of the Labour Party conference. Doubt they are Tory lovers. Don’t shoot the messenger. 

Hamas commit terrorism but you managed to bring it around to labour.  Well done😀

31 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Hamas commit terrorism but you managed to bring it around to labour.  Well done😀

It was about antisemitism in the Labour Party. Maybe you should read it. 

And how the current leadership set out to root it out.

Its a very balanced piece about funding one one side and accusations of cover up on the other (funnily enough by those who are damned in the report)

Anyway, personally its always good to see further steps away from the Corbynistas.

 

‘But the alleged leakers, who deny responsibility, have suggested Labour wants the delay to avoid “embarrassing or uncomfortable” publicity during the election period.’

Think the public need to know before an election personally. Fair play to the Guardian for keeping it in the public eye.
 

9 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

‘But the alleged leakers, who deny responsibility, have suggested Labour wants the delay to avoid “embarrassing or uncomfortable” publicity during the election period.’

Think the public need to know before an election personally. Fair play to the Guardian for keeping it in the public eye.
 

The only way I’d vote Tory next time is if they gave me a million pounds and a reacharound off Penny Mourdant twice a week.

They are not to be trusted in their current incarnation.

11 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

‘But the alleged leakers, who deny responsibility, have suggested Labour wants the delay to avoid “embarrassing or uncomfortable” publicity during the election period.’

Think the public need to know before an election personally. Fair play to the Guardian for keeping it in the public eye.
 

fwiw, i believe Labour would want to delay it, but only cos it will get spun negatively, even though starmer seems to have been keen to root the bad uns out

 

im more interested in seeing the results of the covid enquiry, the ppe enquiry, the cash for peerages enquiry, the chris grayling enquiry, peerges for 20 year olds enquiry

scandal after scandal and cos labour dont trust the press, theyre a bit scared of this thing being released

id be 'get it out there, then we cant be accused of hypocrisy'

6 minutes ago, Casino said:

fwiw, i believe Labour would want to delay it, but only cos it will get spun negatively, even though starmer seems to have been keen to root the bad uns out

 

im more interested in seeing the results of the covid enquiry, the ppe enquiry, the cash for peerages enquiry, the chris grayling enquiry, peerges for 20 year olds enquiry

scandal after scandal and cos labour dont trust the press, theyre a bit scared of this thing being released

id be 'get it out there, then we cant be accused of hypocrisy'

 

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9 minutes ago, Casino said:

fwiw, i believe Labour would want to delay it, but only cos it will get spun negatively, even though starmer seems to have been keen to root the bad uns out

 

im more interested in seeing the results of the covid enquiry, the ppe enquiry, the cash for peerages enquiry, the chris grayling enquiry, peerges for 20 year olds enquiry

scandal after scandal and cos labour dont trust the press, theyre a bit scared of this thing being released

id be 'get it out there, then we cant be accused of hypocrisy'

As we don’t know what it contains I don’t know how it could be spun. As for the other whatabouts, , I don’t think you’d be happy if the COVID one was delayed until after the next election. I’m sure they’d like that if they could. 

21 minutes ago, Spider said:

The only way I’d vote Tory next time is if they gave me a million pounds and a reacharound off Penny Mourdant twice a week.

They are not to be trusted in their current incarnation.

 No one is trying to persuade you otherwise. 

4 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

 No one is trying to persuade you otherwise. 

Folk are still defending them.

At this stage, I just find that baffling. 

10 minutes ago, Spider said:

Folk are still defending them.

At this stage, I just find that baffling. 

Who?

2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Who?

Diver, Royal, Bolty, there’ll be others

You claim to be simply taking a nuetral stance but it’s rare to see you openly criticise the Tories.

Im not going to trawl back through pages and pages, but I’m sensing that you prefer to point out Labour’s problems over and above the Tories.

 

7 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Who?

Not me gov🤔