Meanwhile in Israel

[Dimron]

12 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

All Arabs together. Not difficult to understand their intent. Whether it will succeed is something else entirely.

Iran have recently sent an official to Saudi too, clearly with the intention to ease tensions, and thus reduce the likelihood of Saudi acceptance of Israel.

Unfortunately for them though, some of their proxies have vowed to have a pop at Saudi for its part in helping with stopping Iran's drone/missile attacks etc.

 

I don't know whether you've ever had to deal with Arabs but they go round and round the subject without facing it direct... bloody frustrating to my directly wired black and white brain!

Islamic Sate was subdued in Syria but this fundamentalist disease seems to have got hold of Iran... it really needs sorting by (preferably) regime change or all out war I suppose.

 

[fatolive]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

All Arabs together. Not difficult to understand their intent. Whether it will succeed is something else entirely.

Iran have recently sent an official to Saudi too, clearly with the intention to ease tensions, and thus reduce the likelihood of Saudi acceptance of Israel.

Unfortunately for them though, some of their proxies have vowed to have a pop at Saudi for its part in helping with stopping Iran's drone/missile attacks etc.

 

Iranians arent Arabs ? 
its not an Arabic country or people 

sorry if I’ve missed your point there like but I don’t get it 

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, fatolive said:

Iranians arent Arabs ? 
its not an Arabic country or people 

sorry if I’ve missed your point there like but I don’t get it 

A lot of Israeli's are Arabs too. Assume he meant to say Muslims.

[Not in Crawley]

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

A lot of Israeli's are Arabs too. Assume he meant to say Muslims.

In which case it'd be wrong as well. Iran and SA are in constant conflict for control of the ME because the tenets of Shia (Iran) are differ from Sunni (SA)

I think the point TMJG trying to make is that Iran wanted the peace talks to breakdown because it didn't want SA to have more of a control in the ME given the Iran-SA proxy conflict and the normalisation of relations with Israel would have meant that it would be another nation (along with Jordan and Eygpt) to have signed peace accords with the country, and given the Palestianian struggle and Israel's land grab in the occupied territories with a hard-right government in power in the country, along with Iran's want to be the de facto Muslim leader in the region, might have precipitated the Hamas attack?

 

 

[London Wanderer]

3 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

Rose In Bloom in Whitstable/Seasalter

Nice

 Didn’t know you’d moved 

[London Wanderer]

35 minutes ago, fatolive said:

Iranians arent Arabs ? 
its not an Arabic country or people 

sorry if I’ve missed your point there like but I don’t get it 

Everyone in the Middle East is a camel riding Arab terrorist in the eyes of people like TMJ. There’s the usual cartoon to go along with the stereotype as well. Been posted on here a few times.

 Doesn’t make you look like you understand much about the situation by posting those kinds of stereotypes.

[Not in Crawley]

12 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Nice

 Didn’t know you’d moved 

Yeah - I'm a no fault evictee everyone hears so much about 😁 Moved down to be closer to the kids - so now they've all decided they want to live with us, which is great, but we do miss London - its very nice here but by fuckery its boring and I'd also forgotten how reliant you are on your car out of London. Public transport is utterly shit in the regions.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Yahya Sinwar bites the dust

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Yahya Sinwar bites the dust

Good dose of justice if true

[Blondi]

https://x.com/CherylWroteIt/status/1846919802436087991

[bolton va va]

Rest in pieces you terrorist cunt.

[BobyBrno]

He was sentenced to life for killing 2 Israelis and 4 Palestinians. After release, he was responsible for killing 1,200 in Israel. 
Life should mean life. 
There are no virgins in Hell. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Good hunting there.

Bin Laden, Sadam, this mon, all ended up of a similar fashion. 

 

[Dimron]

7 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

Everyone in the Middle East is a camel riding Arab terrorist in the eyes of people like TMJ. There’s the usual cartoon to go along with the stereotype as well. Been posted on here a few times.

 Doesn’t make you look like you understand much about the situation by posting those kinds of stereotypes.

Sorry to offend but in my defence I am from Tonge Moor and raised in the 1960s when times were more direct and maybe brutal. 

In my career I have dealt with Jews, Iranians, Iraqis, Libyans, Saudis and Egyptians (and more).

i have found the Jews the most discriminatory as I am obviously a gentile. The rest (my "arabs") have been the most friendly but go around and around the subject like they are sat in a circle in smoking a pipe in a desert tent and in the end if you get impatient with them you will fold. Egyptians are the out and out liars... they will just tell a bare faced lie to you to get their way.

I can only try to make sense of the shit show from my experience.

[Cheese]

17 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Sorry to offend but in my defence I am from Tonge Moor and raised in the 1960s when times were more direct and maybe brutal. 

In my career I have dealt with Jews, Iranians, Iraqis, Libyans, Saudis and Egyptians (and more).

i have found the Jews the most discriminatory as I am obviously a gentile. The rest (my "arabs") have been the most friendly but go around and around the subject like they are sat in a circle in smoking a pipe in a desert tent and in the end if you get impatient with them you will fold. Egyptians are the out and out liars... they will just tell a bare faced lie to you to get their way.

I can only try to make sense of the shit show from my experience.

What did "the Jews" say to you?

[Dimron]

5 minutes ago, Cheese said:

What did "the Jews" say to you?

None of you business... Why do you insist on cherry picking posts?

[Cheese]

Just now, Dimron said:

None of you business... Why do you insist on cherry picking posts?

You posted it. 🤷‍♂️

[Tonge moor green jacket]

7 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

Everyone in the Middle East is a camel riding Arab terrorist in the eyes of people like TMJ. There’s the usual cartoon to go along with the stereotype as well. Been posted on here a few times.

 Doesn’t make you look like you understand much about the situation by posting those kinds of stereotypes.

Oh ey up.

You're off.

Captain know it all now!

I certainly can't be arsed going into the minutiae of every detail of the middle East peoples before posting, but by the same token if you can't understand a general observation of folk in that area, and thus chose to refer to it as me saying they're all camel jockeys, then you aren’t as bright as you think you are.

Like it or not, these folk have been at loggerheads with each other for donkeys years, just as they have with the Jews. 

Have a read about sunni and Shia etc. I did ages back, but my eyelids got heavy- it became apparent they're all as crazy as each other, over what is basically a load of bollocks; religion.

Not that it's necessary for explanation, but a member of my family spent many years working out in the area, and is extremely familiar with the people and its customs.

I've been told many tales.

So perhaps I'm far more clued up than you like to believe.

And for what it's worth, he is fully behind Israel's stance.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

5 minutes ago, Dimron said:

None of you business... Why do you insist on cherry picking posts?

Desperation! 🤣

[Dimron]

17 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Desperation! 🤣

Mine or his? 🙂

[Dimron]

24 minutes ago, Cheese said:

You posted it. 🤷‍♂️

Bugger off

[Cheese]

8 minutes ago, Dimron said:

Bugger off

No.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

21 hours ago, Dimron said:

I don't know whether you've ever had to deal with Arabs but they go round and round the subject without facing it direct... bloody frustrating to my directly wired black and white brain!

Islamic Sate was subdued in Syria but this fundamentalist disease seems to have got hold of Iran... it really needs sorting by (preferably) regime change or all out war I suppose.

 

Sorry, missed this. 

Just for absolute accuracy, in case the rotten cherry picking starts; the non-Arab state of Iran, together with other countries in the region, namely Arab states have indeed been "at each other's throats" for time immemorial. 

Religion, culture, call it what you want: the additction just seems to prevent them from seeing common sense.

I've worked alongside a few, and for the most part, they seem friendly enough, but I found them generally untrustworthy. 

Back to the main point though.

For many years, Iran has been playing the game of exerting its evil influence within the region, for ideological and economic gains.

As part of that, we've seen alliances, and enemies crested within Arab nations.

I had a gander around the Internet and found a list of those that were friendly to Iran and those who weren't. 

Their latest "charm offensive" towards Saudi is overtly designed to weaken Israel's position and make it more vulnerable to attack.

How that ties in with their proxies currently doing their bidding, both against Israel and other Arab states, would appear a very difficult situation to resolve.

You would imagine and hope the more stable and sensible nations will see right through Iran's intentions. But nothing is guaranteed. 

[gonzo]

Surely we can all agree the elimation of the Hamas leader and various other terror cells is a good thing no? 

Sooner the extreme side of Islam is wiped off the face of the planet the better.

[London Wanderer]

6 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Surely we can all agree the elimation of the Hamas leader and various other terror cells is a good thing no? 

Sooner the extreme side of Islam is wiped off the face of the planet the better.

Definitely