Meanwhile in Israel

[Bertie]

31 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Meanwhile they’re gunning down civilians gathering for food

Yep…..as everyone looks at Iran it’s the daily “rinse and repeat” at food stations in Gaza.  51 reportedly killed today. Disgusting.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74zj9kv2xjo

[royal white]

Great work 👏🏻🇮🇱

 

 

[kent_white]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

Great work 👏🏻🇮🇱

 

 

Yep - 100% in agreement with you. 

This is how the whole campaign should have been fought. And I doubt there would have been many dissenting voices on here had they operated like this throughout the campaign.

[Bertie]

23 minutes ago, royal white said:

Great work 👏🏻🇮🇱

 

 

We’re agreeing! 🤗.  Yep root out the terrorists and show no mercy.

Whatever the numbers and whatever the causes I continue to struggle though with the reports of civilians being shot trying to get food to feed their families.

[London Wanderer]

If only they treated all the other hospitals & their aid distribution schemes with such ‘care’ & ‘precision’ 🇮🇱👏

[Zico]

53 minutes ago, royal white said:

Great work 👏🏻🇮🇱

 

 

see, I knew they could be more precise and targetted when they want to be

like with the pagers

this is how it should be done

[Tonge moor green jacket]

59 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Yep - 100% in agreement with you. 

This is how the whole campaign should have been fought. And I doubt there would have been many dissenting voices on here had they operated like this throughout the campaign.

How would they have done that initially?

An army of Hamas fighters isn't simply going to wave a bunch of Israeli cement mixers through.

 

[DazBob]

23 minutes ago, Zico said:

see, I knew they could be more precise and targetted when they want to be

like with the pagers

this is how it should be done

Indeed.

Nobody on here has an issue with precision attacks.

It's the wiping out of hundreds/thousands of innocents to get to one or two baddies that is wrong.

 

[London Wanderer]

So the IDF have just announced to the world that they are capable of being more precise & careful.

Rather than indiscriminately killing innocents & ethnically cleansing entire areas.

And we’re supposed to applaud them?

alright then 

[kent_white]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

How would they have done that initially?

An army of Hamas fighters isn't simply going to wave a bunch of Israeli cement mixers through.

 

I don't know. But then I'm a nurse in Bolton. They're clearly very skilled - and if they can manage to effectively decapitate Hezbollah using a load of pagers in an operation from a foreign country, then I'm pretty positive that they could have taken on Hamas using similar tactics and not killed the best part of a Reebok Stadium full of kids in the process. 

[royal white]

1 hour ago, DazBob said:

Indeed.

Nobody on here has an issue with precision attacks.

It's the wiping out of hundreds/thousands of innocents to get to one or two baddies that is wrong.

 

That’s war cocker.  For the umpteenth time see our recent conflicts.  

[royal white]

58 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

So the IDF have just announced to the world that they are capable of being more precise & careful.

Rather than indiscriminately killing innocents & ethnically cleansing entire areas.

And we’re supposed to applaud them?

alright then 

Surely you’re bright enough to realise that every attack can’t be carried out that way? 

[DazBob]

11 minutes ago, royal white said:

That’s war cocker.  For the umpteenth time see our recent conflicts.  

When did we last wipe out as many innocents, with such regularity, as Israel are doing?  Genuine question.

[royal white]

10 minutes ago, DazBob said:

When did we last wipe out as many innocents, with such regularity, as Israel are doing?  Genuine question.

It’s not a competition 

[kent_white]

4 minutes ago, DazBob said:

When did we last wipe out as many innocents, with such regularity, as Israel are doing?  Genuine question.

IDK - But estimates put the number of civilians killed by allied troops in the first 7 years we were in Afghanistan at between somewhere between 5,700 and 6,500 civilian deaths. 

For context. 

[kent_white]

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

It’s not a competition 

No but it is a useful comparison.

[royal white]

3 minutes ago, kent_white said:

IDK - But estimates put the number of civilians killed by allied troops in the first 7 years we were in Afghanistan at between somewhere between 5,700 and 6,500 civilian deaths. 

For context. 

 Now try the Iraq war. 
 

For context. 

[kent_white]

7 minutes ago, royal white said:

 Now try the Iraq war. 
 

For context. 

13,807 between 2003 and 2011. Estimates are that coalition forces were responsible for around 12% of civilians deaths during that period. 

Iraq Body Count had the figure at 9,207 between 2003 and 2005 which is when most of the coalition caused civilian deaths occured. 

 

[deeane Koontz]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74zj9kv2xjo

[London Wanderer]

57 minutes ago, DazBob said:

When did we last wipe out as many innocents, with such regularity, as Israel are doing?  Genuine question.

And when did we advocate for ethnic cleansing & deny an entire nation their right to sovereignty? 
 

Unless RW wants go back to the empire days 😄

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Surely you’re bright enough to realise that every attack can’t be carried out that way? 

Course they can’t

Surely you’re bright enough to realise that the extremists currently running Israel have other agendas on top of just wiping out Hamas.

 It’s simply got to a point where it’s indefensible. And the more folk try to defend (or in this case applaud them) , then dafter they look.

[London Wanderer]

35 minutes ago, kent_white said:

13,807 between 2003 and 2011. Estimates are that coalition forces were responsible for around 12% of civilians deaths during that period. 

Iraq Body Count had the figure at 9,207 between 2003 and 2005 which is when most of the coalition caused civilian deaths occured. 

 

So we need to compare with other conflicts. 

 Then when it’s shown that Israel have caused far more destruction, in a much shorter period of time. The response is ‘it’s not a competition’. 
 

New heights being reached today

 I’m not here to defend Iraq & Afghanistan, but the last time I checked we weren’t denying these countries their right to exist. And we weren’t accused by the UN of genocide & ethnic cleansing. Neither did we implement aid blockades leading to severe malnutrition. 
 

‘These things happen in war’ is a nonsense excuse for what is happening in Gaza & the West Bank. 

[royal white]

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

So we need to compare with other conflicts. 

 Then when it’s shown that Israel have caused far more destruction, in a much shorter period of time. The response is ‘it’s not a competition’. 
 

New heights being reached today

 I’m not here to defend Iraq & Afghanistan, but the last time I checked we weren’t denying these countries their right to exist. And we weren’t accused by the UN of genocide & ethnic cleansing. Neither did we implement aid blockades leading to severe malnutrition. 
 

‘These things happen in war’ is a nonsense excuse for what is happening in Gaza & the West Bank. 

You really do struggle reading at times don’t you. 

[London Wanderer]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

You really do struggle reading at times don’t you. 

Profound as always

[royal white]

Just now, London Wanderer said:

Profound as always

Stop making things up, it’s weird.