Is it kicking off big time or is this just everyday stuff they deal with or a bit of both?

 

17 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

That last on from NIC is usually in Latin. It's his family motto.

You know nothing about my family, but i would say dont come to Farnworth and start being a big fat Australian around them.

2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

You know nothing about my family, but i would say dont come to Farnworth and start being a big fat Australian around them.

Cavete Familiam Farnworthenseum 

22 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

That last on from NIC is usually in Latin. It's his family motto.

Siccatorem capillorum vehor

As a Collier, I make no Farnworth apology. 

Born and bred.

3 hours ago, only1swanny said:

Cavete Familiam Farnworthenseum 

 The fucking childishness (not you - our 'my party' sensei).

Mortally wounded by a misplaced fat insult? 

Still, I'd best be careful. Keffiyeh. Winklepickers. Farnworth. Even the twins would have been shitting themselves.

Must have been a midweek chardonnay soiree for the true believers?

Edited July 31, 2025Jul 31 by bolty58

3 hours ago, only1swanny said:

Siccatorem capillorum vehor

Nil Satis Nisi Pantherellas

Good to see Canada also propose a pathway to recognising Palestine, to put pressure on Israel to do the right thing.

Pretty much leaves the US isolated now in doing this.  The tinpot bully’s response?

"Wow! Canada has just announced that it is backing statehood for Palestine. That will make it very hard for us to make a Trade Deal with them. Oh’ Canada!!!"

Pathetic. Confirms their increasing lack of leadership and influence on the global stage.

26 minutes ago, Bertie said:

Good to see Canada also propose a pathway to recognising Palestine, to put pressure on Israel to do the right thing.

Pretty much leaves the US isolated now in doing this.  The tinpot bully’s response?

"Wow! Canada has just announced that it is backing statehood for Palestine. That will make it very hard for us to make a Trade Deal with them. Oh’ Canada!!!"

Pathetic. Confirms their increasing lack of leadership and influence on the global stage.

Really? 

8 hours ago, royal white said:

Good to see they sent plenty of food in before they put a ban on hey. 

Ahh of course.

 Only a couple of months with no food

No harm done there then. Must be someone else’s fault 🙄

5 minutes ago, royal white said:

Really? 

Of the 5 permanent members of the UN security council only the US doesn’t recognise or propose a pathway to recognise Palestine.

147/193 UN members already do, so with UK, France, Canada (& Malta) in September you’re looking at 151/193 or 78%.

6 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Ahh of course.

 Only a couple of months with no food

No harm done there then. Must be someone else’s fault 🙄

There was plenty of food, the graph you posted clearly shows that. You do understand the graph don’t you? 

 

1 minute ago, Bertie said:

Of the 5 permanent members of the UN security council only the US doesn’t recognise or propose a pathway to recognise Palestine.

147/193 UN members already do, so with UK, France, Canada (& Malta) in September you’re looking at 151/193 or 78%.

So America aren’t isolated then. I thought as much. You still have the likes of Germany, Australia, Italy…….

6 minutes ago, Bertie said:

Of the 5 permanent members of the UN security council only the US doesn’t recognise or propose a pathway to recognise Palestine.

147/193 UN members already do, so with UK, France, Canada (& Malta) in September you’re looking at 151/193 or 78%.

Both UK and Canada’s recognition comes with conditions. If those conditions are/not met, they will/wont recognise a Palestinian State. 
Hardly an endorsement and in the UK’s case, possible illegal under international law. 
 

One thing is clear

It will never end

This conflict will just go on and on

Neither side will back down, neither will ever stop

they'll just keep on going at each other

It's perpetual 

And that's just RW and LW never mind Israel and Palestine 

14 minutes ago, royal white said:

There was plenty of food, the graph you posted clearly shows that. You do understand the graph don’t you? 

 

So America aren’t isolated then. I thought as much. You still have the likes of Germany, Australia, Italy…….

Well, I suspect this % will only increase in the next few weeks tbh. As I think/hope most folk have always said, a two state solution (without the evil of Hamas) is the only option for peace.  At least UK, France, Canada are trying to lead and create that pathway.

What’s the US administration’s vision for long term peace and Gaza’s future? Answers on a postcard…..

6 minutes ago, Bertie said:

Well, I suspect this % will only increase in the next few weeks tbh. As I think/hope most folk have always said, a two state solution (without the evil of Hamas) is the only option for peace.  At least UK, France, Canada are trying to lead and create that pathway.

What’s the US administration’s vision for long term peace and Gaza’s future? Answers on a postcard…..

 

 

56 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Both UK and Canada’s recognition comes with conditions. If those conditions are/not met, they will/wont recognise a Palestinian State. 
Hardly an endorsement and in the UK’s case, possible illegal under international law. 
 

This.

A truly bizarre approach too.

Hamas have been refusing to agree to a ceasefire, so what on earth does Starmer expect to happen?

They simply won't.

It's nothing more than a sop to his MPs, in light of Corbyn, as it means jack shit.

Israel will be annoyed by it, but it won't make a difference. 

The Arab's statement asking for Hamas to lay down its arms will carry far more punch. 

It is possible I suppose, that this move could have quietly been sorted with Israel in advance, for our government's security etc, but I doubt that would be the case.

Last report I saw there wasn't much of Hamas left so doubt they'll carry much punch for much longer 

Not sure what happens once they're out the way

Because that's not much of Gaza left by the sounds of it

4 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

 

 Only a couple of months with no food

 

Aka @Smiley's diet plan.

5 hours ago, royal white said:

There was plenty of food, the graph you posted clearly shows that. You do understand the graph don’t you? 

Aye- particularly the bit that says “Israel did not allow any aid deliveries between March 2 and May 19”

Israel suspend aid deliveries - then more people become malnourished & start starving to death.

It really isn’t rocket science that the blame lies with Israel. And if you’re too daft to accept the obvious, then let’s stop arguing like a pair of fannies & boring everyone to death 👍

Edited July 31, 2025Jul 31 by London Wanderer

7 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Aye- particularly the bit that says “Israel did not allow any aid deliveries between March 2 and May 19”

Israel suspend aid deliveries - then more people become malnourished & start starving to death.

It really isn’t rocket science that the blame lies with Israel. And if you’re too daft to accept the obvious, then let’s stop arguing like a pair of fannies & boring everyone to death 👍

What does the graph that you posted show what happened in Jan and Feb? 

41 minutes ago, royal white said:

What does the graph that you posted show what happened in Jan and Feb? 

That everyone was living the big life. Dining out at Hot Dog restaurants, so Israel decided they’d had enough food 🙄

Just read the article mate. It’s all there.

“Children are starving in Gaza today as a direct result of the Israeli government's decision four months ago to suspend all aid into the enclave.

While that decision has been partially reversed over the last two months, it's had devastating and ongoing implications for vulnerable Palestinian civilians in Gaza, aid groups report.”

You don’t think it’s their fault despite all the evidence it is. No point going round & round about it x

8 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

That everyone was living the big life. Dining out at Hot Dog restaurants, so Israel decided they’d had enough food 🙄

Just read the article mate. It’s all there.

“Children are starving in Gaza today as a direct result of the Israeli government's decision four months ago to suspend all aid into the enclave.

While that decision has been partially reversed over the last two months, it's had devastating and ongoing implications for vulnerable Palestinian civilians in Gaza, aid groups report.”

You don’t think it’s their fault despite all the evidence it is. No point going round & round about it x

You’ve posted a graph, asked me to look at it whilst not understanding what it shows 🤦🏻

4 hours ago, Zico said:

Last report I saw there wasn't much of Hamas left so doubt they'll carry much punch for much longer 

Not sure what happens once they're out the way

Because that's not much of Gaza left by the sounds of it

There are plenty, and plenty of outside support too.

Hence why local pressure should be more effective. 

2 hours ago, royal white said:

You’ve posted a graph, asked me to look at it whilst not understanding what it shows 🤦🏻

Ah I’m sorry

I thought it showed the blocking of civilian aid. Must have imagined that.

 Even if it did , it’s fine because they sent in more in the months before 🙄

Definitely not Israel’s fault , blocking the aid definitely didn’t cause a famine 👍

Are we done now ? x

Edited July 31, 2025Jul 31 by London Wanderer

Just now, London Wanderer said:

Ah I’m sorry

I thought it showed the blocking of civilian aid. Must have imagined that.

 Even if it did , it’s fine because they sent in more in the months before 🙄

Definitely not Israel’s fault , definitely didn’t cause a famine 👍

Are we done now ? x

We finally got there. 7 months supplies sent in over Jan and Feb. How dare Israel send over to much food