Proper fucked ☺️

Sad to see yet another big, old club get into serious trouble and with much bigger debts than we had, more difficult to see them getting out of it. Yet again a team ruined chasing the riches of the promised land in the PL. I hope they can find a genuine owner like Sharon to rebuild them.

44 minutes ago, burnden said:

12 points deducted

Probably more to come due to the irregularities on the accounts. Accounts that should have been submitted last season and if they had those points would have been deducted then, meaning Derby would have been relegated. Morris himself says the accounts are 'about £4mil out', and if true that's a four point deduction. Enabled them to stay up last season I suppose

The shits about to hit the fan at Fleetwood. 

I did warn folk

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

The shits about to hit the fan at Fleetwood. 

I did warn folk

Fraud and money laundering?

16 minutes ago, gonzo said:

The shits about to hit the fan at Fleetwood. 

I did warn folk

He’s going out punching, be interesting to see how this goes. 

Edited September 22, 20214 yr by Mounts Kipper

1 hour ago, Rudy said:

Fraud and money laundering?

https://www.fleetwoodtoday.co.uk/news/crime/fleetwood-town-owner-andy-pilley-accused-of-fraud-and-money-laundering-and-appears-in-court-in-blackpool-3392290

 

FTFC are in £20m in debt to Pilleys energy firms as well.

Fuck knows whats going on with what MK just posted. 

The blokes a crook but what hes done for Fleetwood and Thornton where their academy is, is unbelievable.

Be a shame if it all goes tits up, even though everyone knew it would do eventually

10 hours ago, gonzo said:

https://www.fleetwoodtoday.co.uk/news/crime/fleetwood-town-owner-andy-pilley-accused-of-fraud-and-money-laundering-and-appears-in-court-in-blackpool-3392290

 

FTFC are in £20m in debt to Pilleys energy firms as well.

Fuck knows whats going on with what MK just posted. 

The blokes a crook but what hes done for Fleetwood and Thornton where their academy is, is unbelievable.

Be a shame if it all goes tits up, even though everyone knew it would do eventually

Fleetwoods Escobar

13 hours ago, Rudy said:

Fraud and money laundering?

8 years of investigations, a 3 month trial. Fraud is notoriously complex but fck that's a long time.

Now, as per MK, he's going out swinging & I doubt he cares less about who he hits. Where's Basinni when you need him ?

deja vu reading DerbyWays - threads about what division their phoenix club could end up in, players asked to take wage deferrals etc etc

I want Derby to survive. They’re an old club with a big fan base. Good luck to them.

So do I want Derby to survive Popeye and also Fleetwood. You have to feel sorry for the fans of these clubs who just want to watch and support their teams. We know exactly what it’s like when owners you have to trust let you down like this. Sadly the money needed to compete at all levels these days just encourages owners to push the margins.

Whist I feel for the fans, the club should have had a points deduction last season for the irregularities, and that would have relegated them, the -12 would then be applied this season in L1, so they would be adrift at the bottom of this division instead of the Championship. It stinks.

Feel for the Derby fans.  A proper club and fans, who're just unfortunate to be the latest victims of the money madness. 

Fleetwood are a bloated amateur club, who will revert to bumbling around the non leagues again if the worst should happen.  Same as Salford and Wigan.

Fuck Fleetwood, fuck Derby

Have SSN got a countdown click on yet?

Just now, Casino said:

Fuck Fleetwood, fuck Derby

Have SSN got a countdown click on yet?

Get off the fence. 

i am sure both sets of fans wanted us to go under so fuck em. 

48 minutes ago, Gonk said:

Whist I feel for the fans, the club should have had a points deduction last season for the irregularities, and that would have relegated them, the -12 would then be applied this season in L1, so they would be adrift at the bottom of this division instead of the Championship. It stinks.

Exactly. Macclesfield and bury both had to suffer. these cunts are getting off lightly 

Not sure Fleetwood are in any immediate danger with all their monies being owed to Pilleys own company.

What happens to those loans if Pilley gets done and his businesses not allowed to operate?

Shiner co can take up the role

Feel sorry for Wycombe fuck Derby should have gone down last season 

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

Not sure Fleetwood are in any immediate danger with all their monies being owed to Pilleys own company.

What happens to those loans if Pilley gets done and his businesses not allowed to operate?

Don't know how these things operate, but I would imagine that if the company is solvent it would be allowed to continue. Obviously if dodgy money has been involved and that has to be recovered then things might be difficult, but if a legitimate, going concern is still there, then would the authorities want it closed putting folk out of work?

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Don't know how these things operate, but I would imagine that if the company is solvent it would be allowed to continue. Obviously if dodgy money has been involved and that has to be recovered then things might be difficult, but if a legitimate, going concern is still there, then would the authorities want it closed putting folk out of work?

I don’t think it’s even a question of how the money came about, but if Pilley is the sole reason they’re currently paying their bills and his businesses are closed down then they would be pretty much going straight in to administration.  

2 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

I don’t think it’s even a question of how the money came about, but if Pilley is the sole reason they’re currently paying their bills and his businesses are closed down then they would be pretty much going straight in to administration.  

Aye, but that's my point- his business might not be closed. Don't know how it's set up, or whether it could be taken on without him.

Serves the fvkr right for foisting Crellin on us .... &, more so, not being willing to take the useless lump back.

I hope he gets 78 years to life.

Looks almost certain these are getting an extra 9 points deducted. Our usual 4-0 battering is back on

1 hour ago, Biggish Dave said:

Looks almost certain these are getting an extra 9 points deducted. Our usual 4-0 battering is back on

That’s good news shame they didn’t get them at the end of last season bet Wycombe are pissed off I would be .