Covid?

Brexit?

Both?

I notice it’s taken McDonald’s to run out of milkshakes for it to actually cause people to lose their shit.

I read that 14,000 EU lorry drivers left jobs in the UK since brexit, and only 600 have returned.

Covid caused loss of tests to be cancelled.

 

22 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Fair enough.

I'll just leave you with this from the Institute for Fiscal Studies.

it's a no brainer for my nipper as far as I'm concerned.

 

Mick so the average for graduates is massively boosted by the real high earners in medicine and no one is disputing the need for a degree there.

My time at Uni is more about the summer of 1990 than what I earned since, although I left in 1987 😂😎. I went to Sunderland on Saturday with a lad who spent that summer in the Westleigh. Happiest times ever. 

I just think nowadays the degree itself is not as valuable and the experience has almost become a prescribed formula rather than a full on experience, will still be great for some but for others other routes are a lot better. 

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I'll take that bet.

If 50% of teens go to university, then that would mean quite a few in your poll would have been.

Which would kind of prove the point that they're not the be all and end all

 

On the local news it seemed to be exclusively fat middle-aged chewatts with their scruffy 'Casual fit' jeans hanging halfway down their arse...

Any teens will be putting £10 maximum in, it's the law.

Besides, you graduate in your twenties, I specified graduates 

I didn't mention bets either - mugs' game.

2 hours ago, Ani said:

So we agree 10% was too low, or probably more significantly excluded far too many people from working class background and state school. The 50% whilst dealing with imo is too high and it ends up undervaluing the degree. 
Get the reference to contemporary dance and touch typing is to make a point but equally universities offering courses on 'sports marketing' when that sector does not have demand for all the graduates being churned out is self defeating. 
I was chatting with a bloke by the pool last week (yes I have been on holiday) who was a head honcho at what was at the time Oxford Poly, now called Oxford Brookes University, he was saying how much pressure these places are under to attract full fee paying overseas students and courses become tailored to that market rather the UK market. (That sounds like a bizarre made up chat I know and a strange way to spend a holiday). Just looked it up to check the name and they have 18000 students going through the place 

I get it. I've got mates working in the sector who are under pressure just to get kids onto the course. That's unhealthy obviously.

Sports marketing? True but I'd suggest that should give your a decent broader grounding in commercial marketing. Just because folks may start out on certain dreams doesn't mean it has to end that way.

Always love the tale of my uncle who didn't get the grades he wanted to study pure chemistry so went round to every science dept at UMIST and said what have you got? Did Metallurgy and had a great career, helping build bridges as far as I can understand. 

 

 

One positive to come from all this is that I now know that an Eddie Stobart tramper is not a lorry driver who goes around killing vagrants rather than prostitutes.

Life's all about education innit.

The silly thing about this is its become degree vs not having one. Which was never really the point.

Personally, I'd like mine to have a degree, perhaps that's because there isn't anyone in my family who hasn't, and we've all enjoyed the experience and we all do jobs we like but, it's true not one of us is a millionaire (or even that rich)

I was taught to value education on its own terms, not as an endgame. It has value in, and of itself.

As my dad also said, happy if I was anything I choose to be, but give myself the best chance to make that choice.

Working in Rayleigh today left about 12.30 with about 1/2 tank of fuel.Thought I'd better fill up as soon as possible because it normally takes about 3/4 of a tank each way.Stopped at 8 services all had no fuel,we finally found a esso on A1 but limited to £35 per vehicle got home on fumes.If this continues for much longer this country going to grind to a halt

Just now, 1969 said:

Working in Rayleigh today left about 12.30 with about 1/2 tank of fuel.Thought I'd better fill up as soon as possible because it normally takes about 3/4 of a tank each way.Stopped at 8 services all had no fuel,we finally found a esso on A1 but limited to £35 per vehicle got home on fumes.If this continues for much longer this country going to grind to a halt

Be right in a couple of days. Folk can't keep panic buying and storing can they!

No fewer tanker drivers now than last week or last month.

Pure panic.

I’m at a trade event in Coventry.

Loads of lads haven’t actually made it and it’s causing chaos.

These events are just starting to happen again and now this fucking nonsense.

One van load of stuff coming from Newcastle is still stuck on the A1 hoping the RAC can fetch them enough diesel to limp to a garage with fuel. It’s menkle

Edited September 27, 20214 yr by Spider

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Be right in a couple of days. Folk can't keep panic buying and storing can they!

No fewer tanker drivers now than last week or last month.

Pure panic.

Hope your correct pal because people like me who work away from home 2/3 times a week will be screwed 

Well my tools will wait for a day or two.

Cutting grass in rain like today is a bit of a non starter anyway, and can't see a thing through rain covered safety specs.

2 minutes ago, 1969 said:

Hope your correct pal because people like me who work away from home 2/3 times a week will be screwed 

That's the truly sad thing about this.

Cunts filling up cans etc with tens of litres of excess fuel, fucking it over for those who need to fill up more often.

Seems that rural areas are less likely to be affected, which is unsurprising I suppose. 

Shell near b and q was shut at 530

Our morrisons ran out at weekend 

For some reason folk dont belueve bozo telling em theres no shortage

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Well my tools will wait for a day or two.

Cutting grass in rain like today is a bit of a non starter anyway, and can't see a thing through rain covered safety specs.

Mate of mine is a landscaper, he works for bury council doing all the groundwork’s.

Years back, I moved into a rental. Garden was pretty overgrown as me and the lad I was living with couldn’t give a fuck about gardening, so I asked me mate if he’d sort it.

He came round with his big industrial strimmer just as we were off to watch Bolton play Arsenal, so left him to it.

Forgot to tell him that all the cats on the estate had taken a shine to shitting in the garden. He was NOT happy.

There was catshit absolutely everywhere. Mainly on him. This strimmer just flung the shite to all points of the compass. He ended up having a few days off work when he got some sort of poisoning.

Cost me a lot of pints down the years did that.

Anyway, as you were.

3 minutes ago, Casino said:

Shell near b and q was shut at 530

Our morrisons ran out at weekend 

For some reason folk dont belueve bozo telling em theres no shortage

25 limit the garage on turks road yesterday 

Edited September 27, 20214 yr by radcliffe white

1 minute ago, Spider said:

Mate of mine is a landscaper, he works for bury council doing all the groundwork’s.

Years back, I moved into a rental. Garden was pretty overgrown as me and the lad I was living with couldn’t give a fuck about gardening, so I asked me mate if he’d sort it.

He came round with his big industrial strimmer just as we were off to watch Bolton play Arsenal, so left him to it.

Forgot to tell him that all the cats on the estate had taken a shine to shitting in the garden. He was NOT happy.

There was catshit absolutely everywhere. Mainly on him. This strimmer just flung the shite to all points of the compass. He ended up having a few days off work when he got some sort of poisoning.

Cost me a lot of pints down the years did that.

Anyway, as you were.

I've often described such events from my council time. Sometimes dog shit in bags would end up wrapped around the head, shreds of shit dripping plastic like a minced alien everywhere. Removing it, then cleaning myself down.

Finished up in MAU in the hospital whilst they decided whether or not to remove my appendix, didn't in the end but I'm convinced it was caused by shit ingestion. 

Westminster Council did a study a few years ago, and increased sickness in the workforce coincided with the start of the season. 

Should have had a visored helmet on for H&S...

No sympathy for either.

And gauntlets.

 

Have to say, having done a degree, I've never strimmed shit on myself as part of a day's work 😁

I've done all manner of jobs where I've come home covered in shit, but never actual excrement.

The jobs were you are rudely awakened on the couch from spilling Stella from your first post-work can as sleep let's it slip out of one's grip, grrr, real man jobs.

Why are People blaming the fuel crisis on the media, it’s surely more to do with utter fucktard greedy cockwombles that walk amongst us. 

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

Why are People blaming the fuel crisis on the media, it’s surely more to do with utter fucktard greedy cockwombles that walk amongst us. 

Exactly, people love to blame the “MSM” as they refer to it, and in particular the BBC. But I don’t think any of them can point to a report from the bbc or others, saying we are going to run out of fuel so get hoarding. 
 They are reporting on the panic not causing it 

10 minutes ago, royal white said:

Why are People blaming the fuel crisis on the media, it’s surely more to do with utter fucktard greedy cockwombles that walk amongst us. 

Without media coverage no one would have thought there was an issue, and would have carried on as normal. 

It's not just the TV and radio but twitter etc.

If they portrayed a more balanced picture, and folk stopped believing the bollocks there wouldn't have been a problem.

One follows the other 

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Without media coverage no one would have thought there was an issue, and would have carried on as normal. 

It's not just the TV and radio but twitter etc.

If they portrayed a more balanced picture, and folk stopped believing the bollocks there wouldn't have been a problem.

One follows the other 

Absolutely certain there will be posters on here who have been out and  bought more fuel than usual In the last week. Thus contributing to the problems in certain areas. 

6 minutes ago, fatolive said:

Exactly, people love to blame the “MSM” as they refer to it, and in particular the BBC. But I don’t think any of them can point to a report from the bbc or others, saying we are going to run out of fuel so get hoarding. 
 They are reporting on the panic not causing it 

They were reporting a shortage of tanker drivers, which was a greatly overblown story and not true.

A small handful of stations without fuel became a bigger story than it was in reality.

It wasn't balanced and people reacted, stupidly.

The first report was of 3 BP stations having to shut out of 350.  The early reporting of it and the prominence it was given led to the panic buying.

Apart from the few goons that usually pop up in these scenarios, im unsure why the rest of us are considered selfish.  How many on here haven't needed fuel in the last 5 days?