Max Cherry Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, woolli said: So when we got promoted against Peterbro on the last day of the season, and thousands went onto the pitch, do you consider that a banning offence? If the answer is yes, we would have no fans left now! was telling someone at work in my younger days I'd been on the pitch a few times. Then remembered Peterborough 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 23 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: No surprise. £100000 on policing. Wigans police bill, in 2003/04 (Championship) was £226k 18 years ago. If ours is £100k for the season: 23 league games, plus (lets say) 2 cup games. £4k per game. If someone had asked, I would have guessed the norm would be above that for a league game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 We paid £111k in 2018/19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 10, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, ZiggyStardust said: Wigans police bill, in 2003/04 (Championship) was £226k 18 years ago. Was that another local initiative to boost crowds? Just invite a few hundred coppers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 £100k based on 15k crowd is about £7 each for a season. So about 30p per game. I am happy to pay the extra 30p and let folk do what they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, MickyD said: Was that another local initiative to boost crowds? Just invite a few hundred coppers! Tbf it was when Whelan took GMP to court about the policing costs. And won. If the £100k is an extra £100k then Hart is right to kick up a stink, but if that’s £100k total for the full season then it’s an absolute bargain, don’t draw attention to it ffs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 10, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, ZiggyStardust said: Wigans police bill, in 2003/04 (Championship) was £226k 18 years ago. If ours is £100k for the season: 23 league games, plus (lets say) 2 cup games. £4k per game. If someone had asked, I would have guessed the norm would be above that for a league game. Still money they'd rather not spend. I would presume that as we are lower league these days, the need for so many police has dropped. Perhaps we use more stewards now too, I don't know, but even then they cost money. When I comes down to it, if the club can avoid spending money unnecessarily, then it makes sense to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burnden Posted February 10, 2022 Members Share Posted February 10, 2022 For you lads that travel away week in week out are you finding this season the above ringing true ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Call the cops I’m off my chops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burnden Posted February 10, 2022 Members Share Posted February 10, 2022 https://play.acast.com/s/timesthegame/thenewfaceoffootballhooliganism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 10, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, burnden said: For you lads that travel away week in week out are you finding this season the above ringing true ?? Coke users are nonces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 10 hours ago, Cheese said: Are you seriously saying - these days, you get banned just for celebrating a goal? God your hard work. Years ago when we scored fans spilled onto the pitch and was simply pushed back on the terraces after the celebrations. Now they just want to ban all; of course violence and intimidation needs something done but a few kids getting over excited should not be a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 10, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, burnden said: For you lads that travel away week in week out are you finding this season the above ringing true ?? I went to away games in the late 70s and early 80s. Football hooliganism has a long way to go until we get to those levels. CCTV near grounds and in every shop, pub, train, bus, etc., has certainly ensured the likelihood of becoming a successful hooligan is highly unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted February 10, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: God your hard work. Years ago when we scored fans spilled onto the pitch and was simply pushed back on the terraces after the celebrations. Now they just want to ban all; of course violence and intimidation needs something done but a few kids getting over excited should not be a problem Don't worry. It was a joke. But are you seriously saying you get banned just for celebrating a goal these days? Edited February 10, 2022 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted February 10, 2022 Members Share Posted February 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, burnden said: For you lads that travel away week in week out are you finding this season the above ringing true ?? @Escobarp you in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burnden Posted February 10, 2022 Members Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 minute ago, MickyD said: I went to away games in the late 70s and early 80s. Football hooliganism has a long way to go until we get to those levels. CCTV near grounds and in every shop, pub, train, bus, etc., has certainly ensured the likelihood of becoming a successful hooligan is highly unlikely. Yeah i did to @MickyD and saw it week in week out home and away .... These days if i go away its usually in the car on my own ,watch the game then drive back so i don't see owt going on really ......just wondering if the report /podcast there is accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted February 10, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, burnden said: For you lads that travel away week in week out are you finding this season the above ringing true ?? That copper don’t half come out with some shit. No, not every club in the country is seeing an increase in violence. Lads can avoid trouble usually if they want but there’s always some who’ll want a bit of agro but if they get caught, just be ready to pay the penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted February 10, 2022 Moderators Share Posted February 10, 2022 Yeah My issue isnt with trying to eradicate violence, its how its being bundled up with anti social behaviour And who is deciding whats anti social Anyway, it is what it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 10, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, burnden said: Yeah i did to @MickyD and saw it week in week out home and away .... These days if i go away its usually in the car on my own ,watch the game then drive back so i don't see owt going on really ......just wondering if the report /podcast there is accurate. We’re mostly same, drive in, watch game, go home unless we let the train take the strain. Quite often the exit from the grounds is fairly sterile, full of stewards on the immediate vicinity of the ground then police and then pretty much nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Not like wolves away many years back a polite gentleman approached us and asked if we fancied a chat down some side street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted February 10, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2022 Just now, radcliffe white said: Not like wolves away many years back a polite gentleman approached us and asked if we fancied a chat down some side street I went to Wolves while still at school, 76-77 ish. I got back to coach after carefully keeping schtum and not drawing attention to myself. My mate, on the other hand found this difficult and let all and sundry know he was Bolton. They nicked his leather jacket and Docs off him in the subway. I mean, how the fuck do you steal someone’s eight-hole ox-blood boots? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, Casino said: Yeah My issue isnt with trying to eradicate violence, its how its being bundled up with anti social behaviour And who is deciding whats anti social Anyway, it is what it is Aye I'd say what appears to be happening in football isba reflection on society as a whole. Think people are forgetting last summer ever happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 I generally don’t have any issue avoiding bother at away games; Saturday was the first time in a LONG time where I’ve seen any trouble like that directly outside of the ground, and even then it was easy enough to get out of the way and just go to the first pub which certainly wouldn’t have been an option at some other grounds. I don’t wear colours and tend to go in ‘home’ pubs and have a pint and a chat rather than ballooning in a Wetherspoons so never an issue on that front, but I’m finding cocaine use has absolutely rocketed over the last couple of years and even in the ground there’s always a queue for the cubicles. Not something I’ve ever been interested in but as @gonzosays I expect it’s a general reflection of society that widespread cocaine use is just an every day occurrence now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 When you look at when it kicks off in football ever since the 1920’s it coincides with social and economic turmoil. They go hand in hand. I know the average wage on ww is £150k but it isn’t the case outside of the ww walls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venetian White Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Don’t shoot the messenger! Just heard a rumour that a delegation from the supporters trust have had a meeting with Neil Hart. From March, Kumbaya My Lord will be played on repeat an hour before kick off. Anyone swearing will be given a 6 month ban OR will be made to kneel in front of Mr Hart and beg for forgiveness. If Mr Hart feels you are contrite enough, he will reduce this to 3 months. All supporters will be breathalysed upon entrance to the stadium. Anyone with any trace of alcohol will be given the option of a 6 year ban or to enter a six month rehabilitation programme (at your own cost). Anyone standing up will be featured on a “Name and Shame” page in Mondays edition of the BEN. It is hoped that these measures will be enough to turn this scruffy but proud and passionate Northern town into a Northern version of Henley. Middlebrook will be diverted just past where Horwich Tip used to be and fans will enter the ground via chauffeur driven rowing boats on the condition they are wearing straw boaters, proof of being middle class and pledging allegiance to the Vozhd Hart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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