London Wanderer Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 9 hours ago, bolty58 said: Fuck off. š Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 12 hours ago, gonzo said: I didnt like it when Bury went. Felt sorry for their fans an staff, an age old football club like them going whilst players 10 miles down the road are earning Ā£200k a week is utterly wrong. These Wigan Cunts however can fuck off. Their town doesnt deserve a football league team.Ā Its a rugby town through and through. They should stick to that. Hope the perish and burn into nothing and never exist in any form again. Leave football to the big boys. On and off the pitch. Playing devil's advocate, as I'm as anti-Wigan as most on here and wish them all the bad luck going.Ā But is that based on no town that plays rugby should also have a football team?Ā Or just their relatively poor crowds?Ā Coz if that's the case there are loads of teams that don't deserve to be in the EFL, but they just happen to not be our "rivals/haters". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 With Wigan being such a young club, families who have lived there for generations will have grown up as Man U, Liverpool, Everton or Bolton fans.Ā The only ones who support Wigan will have been those that bucked the family trend at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted October 26, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, DazBob said: With Wigan being such a young club, families who have lived there for generations will have grown up as Man U, Liverpool, Everton or Bolton fans.Ā The only ones who support Wigan will have been those that bucked the family trend at some point. They were founded in 1932. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, Cheese said: They were founded in 1932. Theyāve been irrelevant for most of that. Derby yes. Rivals no. Younger fans I get it but I canāt answer for them. I canāt take them seriously. Everything they do/think seems to have us in their mindsets. Weirdos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted October 26, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, tomski said: Theyāve been irrelevant for most of that. Derby yes. Rivals no. Younger fans I get it but I canāt answer for them. I canāt take them seriously. Everything they do/think seems to have us in their mindsets. Weirdos. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 26 minutes ago, tomski said: Theyāve been irrelevant for most of that. Derby yes. Rivals no. Younger fans I get it but I canāt answer for them. I canāt take them seriously. Everything they do/think seems to have us in their mindsets. Weirdos. Used to play Horwich RMI and I believe it would kick offĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 14 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Used to play Horwich RMI and I believe it would kick offĀ Exactly, historically they are rivals of Chorley. No offence Chorley fans but thatās small fry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Cheese said: They were founded in 1932. Okay, in terms of being a Football League club then.Ā Nobody cares about non league clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breightmet Boy Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 I'd never heard of them until the late 1970s and I had a good knowledge of football, that's how relevant they are to me.Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 26, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 26, 2022 15 hours ago, London Wanderer said: Complete meltdowns at even the thought of it Brilliant.Ā You might be onto something though.Ā Sign him for a nominal fee, then offer fans (Ā£5 each) at his first home game to queue up and slap the fucker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 When Wigan were promoted to the league in 1978, they finished runner up to Boston United.Ā Wigan were elected and Boston stayed down (they may not have applied for promotion for all I know).Ā I always assumed they stormed the league and were deservedly promoted, but not so.Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freds dad Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Wasnāt Bobby Charlton a Director there and manager for a short time? Wiggin and DMB c**ts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, freds dad said: Wasnāt Bobby Charlton a Director there and manager for a short time? Wiggin and DMB c**ts Think Ken Bates was involved as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said: When Wigan were promoted to the league in 1978, they finished runner up to Boston United.Ā Wigan were elected and Boston stayed down (they may not have applied for promotion for all I know).Ā I always assumed they stormed the league and were deservedly promoted, but not so.Ā Ā Whatever happened to Boston by the way?! One minute they were in the league then they vanished without trace. Sure they docked 30 points or summet daft. Luton got twatted the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 7 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: Playing devil's advocate, as I'm as anti-Wigan as most on here and wish them all the bad luck going.Ā But is that based on no town that plays rugby should also have a football team?Ā Or just their relatively poor crowds?Ā Coz if that's the case there are loads of teams that don't deserve to be in the EFL, but they just happen to not be our "rivals/haters". Just seems to me it's just not a football town whatsoever. Even the rugby lads hate the footy lot. Think it'd be better if they had a smaller ground like Forest Green or summet. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Trotter Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 4 hours ago, tomski said: Theyāve been irrelevant for most of that. Derby yes. Rivals no. Younger fans I get it but I canāt answer for them. I canāt take them seriously. Everything they do/think seems to have us in their mindsets. Weirdos. I'm probably on the younger end of things here, and I'll put my hands up and say that, yep, I can't stand them. Obviously Blackburn and United are there, but as they've always had more fierce rivalries, it felt like a one way street. The whole Tranmere thing passed me by (just). So for me personally, there was always a bit of a vacuum. Now they've shared divisions with us for a good few years, become blindly obsessed with us as literally nobody else cares about them, and (for me anyway) it's kind of filled that void.Ā Hopefully now their owner has clearly got bored, all 23 of their fans suffer - even one tenth what we did under And*rson. But they won't, the slimy bastards always seem to land on their feet.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 Been here a million times before but its completely generational. Mainly because we havent got s traditional rival like Blackpool have with PNE or similar. We seem to generate one every other decade. Anyone under the age of 30 would never consider United a rival, derby or whatever you want to call it in a million years. Unless you live in Little Hulton or summet. Right here, right now its Wigan. 20 years ago it was Tranmere or Wolves. 20 years previous it was United. 20 years from now it will be some fucker else. Just the way it is with us. Bit crap really, I'd love a proper thing like villa brum or sheff derby but we are stuck with being hated by loads of small clubs and big clubs have their own things going on and couldnt give a fuck about us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, gonzo said: Been here a million times before but its completely generational. Mainly because we havent got s traditional rival like Blackpool have with PNE or similar. We seem to generate one every other decade. Anyone under the age of 30 would never consider United a rival, derby or whatever you want to call it in a million years. Unless you live in Little Hulton or summet. Right here, right now its Wigan. 20 years ago it was Tranmere or Wolves. 20 years previous it was United. 20 years from now it will be some fucker else. Just the way it is with us. Bit crap really, I'd love a proper thing like villa brum or sheff derby but we are stuck with being hated by loads of small clubs and big clubs have their own things going on and couldnt give a fuck about us. Think which part of Bolton you're from plays a part as wellĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Think which part of Bolton you're from plays a part as wellĀ Aye deffo. But for a rivalry or derby it should be two way. Theres only Wigan that hate us and us only in our stratosphere. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: You might be onto something though.Ā Sign him for a nominal fee, then offer fans (Ā£5 each) at his first home game to queue up and slap the fucker. haha Quids in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, gonzo said: Aye deffo. But for a rivalry or derby it should be two way. Theres only Wigan that hate us and us only in our stratosphere. Ā Agree and never got the idea that Man Utd are a rival In our days of playing them, I doubt many Man Utd fans woke up on fixture release date thinking when do we play BoltonĀ They've got City, Leeds and Liverpool Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 26, 2022 Moderators Share Posted October 26, 2022 6 hours ago, Cheese said: They were founded in 1932. Though they've only been a league club since the late 1970s, so there's a generation or two knocking about that probably didn't go watching them because no one watched non league back thenĀ Ā Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWFC_LOVE Posted October 26, 2022 Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Been here a million times before but its completely generational. Mainly because we havent got s traditional rival like Blackpool have with PNE or similar. We seem to generate one every other decade. Anyone under the age of 30 would never consider United a rival, derby or whatever you want to call it in a million years. Unless you live in Little Hulton or summet. Right here, right now its Wigan. 20 years ago it was Tranmere or Wolves. 20 years previous it was United. 20 years from now it will be some fucker else. Just the way it is with us. Bit crap really, I'd love a proper thing like villa brum or sheff derby but we are stuck with being hated by loads of small clubs and big clubs have their own things going on and couldnt give a fuck about us. It could be argued that Iām a product of the generational hatred you speak of, but this has gone on longer than Tranmere (who are further afield) and Wolves (who are even further away, and also have three midlands clubs to contend with).Ā Theyāre on our doorstep, and have played Ā in our division for the best part of twenty years.Ā Granted they were a bit try hard, but theyāve won the FA Cup as much as it pains me, and theyāre currently a division higher. While some may argue that they donāt hate or even care for Wigan, itās head and shoulders above anything close to a big Ā rivalry that weāve had in my lifetime. Quite happy to embrace it tbh. Not that Iād be too disappointed if they went out of business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted October 26, 2022 Moderators Share Posted October 26, 2022 I'm more than happy to consider Wigan our rivalĀ Ā More so than anyone elseĀ It wasn't always the caseĀ But for me there's far more edge against them than anyone else round hereĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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