Brand Evatt

[marple whites]

1 hour ago, bwfc2003 said:

But that assumes we dont get any drawn games

If you win 30, you can lose 16 which in reality will not happen.

think we lost 4 when we got 99 points, so you will get draws.  3 draws is 1 win, which ok does reduce your win percentage slightly.

For the rest of this season, we will need a win percentage of at least 60% to more than likely just get in the play offs.

90 points plus SHOULD get you up automatically.

[gonzo]

1 hour ago, Dimron said:

It was very odd at the end.

The timing is awful, even if we gave a new manager a "war chest" he won't be able to spend it after this month and which player who may be in our sights would come to a club not knowing who the manager is going to be?

Something must have happened or been said on Tuesday to finally tip the balance against IE.

 

8,500 fans in for a home league game probably tipped the balance.

It has to be our lowest ever gate for a home league game, even if it is unofficial. (Reebok)

We 10k crowds in 99/2000 but I'm not sure if that was folk through the door. 

When did it change to counting it as sold seats?

Edited January 23, 2025 by gonzo

[Leyther_Matt]

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

8,500 fans in for a home league game probably tipped the balance.

It has to be our lowest ever gate for a home league game, even if it is unofficial. (Reebok)

We 10k crowds in 99/2000 but I'm not sure if that was folk through the door. 

When did it change to counting it as sold seats?

2019/20 had a couple of low ones, mainly because they were before we were allowed to put season tickets on sale because of being in admin (5,454 v Ipswich and 6,786 v Oxford)

Think it’s been sold seats ever since we moved to the Reebok tbh as there’s no way every single ticket turned up when we had the exact 25,000 gates in 97/98 

[Burnden Pies]

46 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

2019/20 had a couple of low ones, mainly because they were before we were allowed to put season tickets on sale because of being in admin (5,454 v Ipswich and 6,786 v Oxford)

Think it’s been sold seats ever since we moved to the Reebok tbh as there’s no way every single ticket turned up when we had the exact 25,000 gates in 97/98 

The 25k every game in 97/98 was a swizz because we only had permission for a 25k stadium so couldn't/ wouldn't announce any more. At the time I had a mate working in the planning dept at Bolton council who said everyone knew the capacity was bigger than 25k but everyone went along with the official line. Subsequently BWFC was 'allowed' to increase the official capacity even though there were no additional seats put in the ground.

Also, (excepting the 25k workaround period) for a long time the attendance figures were actually those attending, and not based on all tickets sold. Blackburn always used to base their numbers on tickets sold, and it used to rile me because there would often be less actual fans at Ewood than at the Reebok but officially it was more.

I was disappointed when we moved to the 'tickets sold' system tbh. Tuesday night is a (albeit pretty extreme) example of how the official figure can mean next to nothing 

[Dimron]

1 minute ago, Burnden Pies said:

The 25k every game in 97/98 was a swizz because we only had permission for a 25k stadium so couldn't/ wouldn't announce any more. At the time I had a mate working in the planning dept at Bolton council who said everyone knew the capacity was bigger than 25k but everyone went along with the official line. Subsequently BWFC was 'allowed' to increase the official capacity even though there were no additional seats put in the ground.

Also, (excepting the 25k workaround period) for a long time the attendance figures were actually those attending, and not based on all tickets sold. Blackburn always used to base their numbers on tickets sold, and it used to rile me because there would often be less actual fans at Ewood than at the Reebok but officially it was more.

I was disappointed when we moved to the 'tickets sold' system tbh. Tuesday night is a (albeit pretty extreme) example of how the official figure can mean next to nothing 

I worked on the initial stadium development and the bloke who fitted the seats got paid for over 27,000, we were squeezing seats into every corner... always made me smile when I saw the attendance come up at exactly 25,000 on the big games... when the club got the planning approved it soon became 27.500... no idea what the official count is now

[Leyther_Matt]

7 minutes ago, Burnden Pies said:

The 25k every game in 97/98 was a swizz because we only had permission for a 25k stadium so couldn't/ wouldn't announce any more. At the time I had a mate working in the planning dept at Bolton council who said everyone knew the capacity was bigger than 25k but everyone went along with the official line. Subsequently BWFC was 'allowed' to increase the official capacity even though there were no additional seats put in the ground.

Also, (excepting the 25k workaround period) for a long time the attendance figures were actually those attending, and not based on all tickets sold. Blackburn always used to base their numbers on tickets sold, and it used to rile me because there would often be less actual fans at Ewood than at the Reebok but officially it was more.

I was disappointed when we moved to the 'tickets sold' system tbh. Tuesday night is a (albeit pretty extreme) example of how the official figure can mean next to nothing 

Yeah the capacity thing was always a funny one, especially as the GB v New Zealand game had 28k on in those early days

Suppose it might have coincided with when we went back up under Allardyce looking at the jump in crowds, but obviously that would have naturally been an increased average anyway

[Winchester White]

I am sure I remember when it was being built it was around 25k plus the option of 2 more rows at the bottom?

Or am I going mad or have early onset dementia or maybe both?

[Winchester White]

1 minute ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Yeah the capacity thing was always a funny one, especially as the GB v New Zealand game had 28k on in those early days

Suppose it might have coincided with when we went back up under Allardyce looking at the jump in crowds, but obviously that would have naturally been an increased average anyway

Rugby doesn't have segregation though which might explain the uplift?

[Whitestar]

I was on at the Leicester game 2-2 boxing day i think, not the savage game, season after i think, anyway there was over 27k that day and still empty seats where the segregation was.

[Burnden Pies]

6 minutes ago, Whitestar said:

I was on at the Leicester game 2-2 boxing day i think, not the savage game, season after i think, anyway there was over 27k that day and still empty seats where the segregation was.

28,353 (just looked it up). Our biggest attendance at the Reebok

[Zico]

34 minutes ago, Burnden Pies said:

The 25k every game in 97/98 was a swizz because we only had permission for a 25k stadium so couldn't/ wouldn't announce any more. At the time I had a mate working in the planning dept at Bolton council who said everyone knew the capacity was bigger than 25k but everyone went along with the official line. Subsequently BWFC was 'allowed' to increase the official capacity even though there were no additional seats put in the ground.

Also, (excepting the 25k workaround period) for a long time the attendance figures were actually those attending, and not based on all tickets sold. Blackburn always used to base their numbers on tickets sold, and it used to rile me because there would often be less actual fans at Ewood than at the Reebok but officially it was more.

I was disappointed when we moved to the 'tickets sold' system tbh. Tuesday night is a (albeit pretty extreme) example of how the official figure can mean next to nothing 

Do you reckon the announcement bloke feels a dick when he tells everyone there's twice as many people in the ground than there actually is 

Probably

[Zico]

22 minutes ago, Whitestar said:

I was on at the Leicester game 2-2 boxing day i think, not the savage game, season after i think, anyway there was over 27k that day and still empty seats where the segregation was.

Iirc they just had the upper tier and we had all the lower tier

Dunno if they blocked off the first few rows

Wasn't there once a sell out rugby match that had zero segregation?

 

[superjohnmcginlay]

3 minutes ago, Zico said:

Do you reckon the announcement bloke feels a dick when he tells everyone there's twice as many people in the ground than there actually is 

Probably

Reckon he feels more a dick doing the half time commentary on the kick a ball in the bath game 

[Burnden Pies]

3 minutes ago, Zico said:

Do you reckon the announcement bloke feels a dick when he tells everyone there's twice as many people in the ground than there actually is 

Probably

Well if he doesn't he should! It's been especially embarrassing since things turned sour with Evatt and there have been so many more no shows. Tbh apart from PR purposes I really don't get why tickets sold are equated with the actual attendance. It's a nonsense and often pretty meaningless 

[jayjayoghani]

35 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Yeah the capacity thing was always a funny one, especially as the GB v New Zealand game had 28k on in those early days

 

5 minutes ago, Zico said:

 

Wasn't there once a sell out rugby match that had zero segregation?

 

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Edited January 23, 2025 by jayjayoghani

[jayjayoghani]

36 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

I am sure I remember when it was being built it was around 25k plus the option of 2 more rows at the bottom?

Or am I going mad or have early onset dementia or maybe both?

I may have to join the early onset club but isn't the lower tier front row designated row C?

[little whitt]

21 minutes ago, Zico said:

Do you reckon the announcement bloke feels a dick when he tells everyone there's twice as many people in the ground than there actually is 

Probably

Tells His Wife 

He Has A 12" KNOB 

[Leyther_Matt]

22 minutes ago, jayjayoghani said:

I may have to join the early onset club but isn't the lower tier front row designated row C?

Row D. Three extra rows when Jules is leading us in to the Champions League. 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

58 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Yeah the capacity thing was always a funny one, especially as the GB v New Zealand game had 28k on in those early days

Suppose it might have coincided with when we went back up under Allardyce looking at the jump in crowds, but obviously that would have naturally been an increased average anyway

Is the highest ever attendance at the stadium a non-football match then?

[gonzo]

2 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Is the highest ever attendance at the stadium a non-football match then?

Probably Oasis or Coldplay

[Leyther_Matt]

1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Is the highest ever attendance at the stadium a non-football match then?

27,486 which is actually less than the Leicester game

If memory serves me right, seats were lost in ESL for the rugby because there needed to be a bigger screen for the video referee

[thebells]

1 hour ago, superjohnmcginlay said:

Reckon he feels more a dick doing the half time commentary on the kick a ball in the bath game 

I know him well. And can confirm this to be the case. 
 

[Stig]

2 hours ago, Burnden Pies said:

28,353 (just looked it up). Our biggest attendance at the Reebok

Wasn't that the heart monitor ITV game versus Leicester? What a game that was for them to pick for the heart monitor

[thebells]

Just now, Stig said:

Wasn't that the heart monitor ITV game versus Leicester? What a game that was for them to pick for the heart monitor

Have looked back for that a few times and can’t find it anywhere online. Really enjoyed watching it at the time. 

[thebells]

2 hours ago, Winchester White said:

I am sure I remember when it was being built it was around 25k plus the option of 2 more rows at the bottom?

Or am I going mad or have early onset dementia or maybe both?

I seem to recall the extra two rows would get it to 30,000. If next home game as bad as last two I might do a count up and work it out.