Meanwhile In England

[royal white]

Just now, Cheese said:

I'm not google mate. You said you wanted a Law that meant foreign criminals were deported rather than kept in jail, and it turns out that Law was introduced last year, but you're still not satisfied. Mind boggling.

No it doesn’t, the irony of talking about reading when you clearly haven’t. Again athy said all criminals deported AFTER serving their time. 

This is from the first paragraph of the link you posted 

 

Foreign criminals to face immediate deportation

Foreign criminals will for the first time face immediate deportation after sentencing as the Government strengthens border security through the Plan for Change.

 

 

[Cheese]

2 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

I read what I want and do not need a keyboard warrior like you saying otherwise

Good for you. 👍 Unfortunately, I will continue to point out your stupidity on here regardless of your needs.

[Cheese]

My mistake. Personally, I'd rather they were deported immediately, rather than given shelter and 3 meals a day for years at the taxpayers expense. But if athy would rather pay for them to play XBOX games all day, that's up to him.

Edited Tuesday at 22:15 by Cheese

[royal white]

Keep digging fool, that’s those with no right to be here. Again not what athy said. 
 

It’s like You don’t read, 

 

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• The UK has changed the law (Sentencing Act 2026) so that eligible foreign offenders can be deported at any point after sentencing — even immediately.
• This removed the old rule that they had to serve part of their prison sentence first.
• Related immigration rules (like refusing visas to criminals) came into force in March 2026.

[Traf]

22 minutes ago, royal white said:

Labours policy is ….

Under the newer approach, a foreign offender can be deported straight after sentencing, which means:
They may serve little or no time in a UK prison
Labours policy allows some criminals  to just be sent home as a punishment. They must be shitting it. 

Would you rather we had the expense of jailing them for a few years before deportation?

Serious non-loaded question.

[royal white]

5 hours ago, Traf said:

Would you rather we had the expense of jailing them for a few years before deportation?

Serious non-loaded question.

Absolutely, they’ve committed a crime being foreign shouldn’t mean you escape jail time. 

[royal white]

6 hours ago, Cheese said:

My mistake. Personally, I'd rather they were deported immediately, rather than given shelter and 3 meals a day for years at the taxpayers expense. But if athy would rather pay for them to play XBOX games all day, that's up to him.

So if someone was to commit a horrific crime against someone you know you’d be happy for them just to be sent back home as a punishment.  We got there eventually. 

[Cheese]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/foreign-criminals-to-face-immediate-deportation

Terrorists, murderers and others serving life sentences will continue to have to serve their prison sentence before being considered for deportation.  

Edited Wednesday at 06:43 by Cheese

[royal white]

12 minutes ago, Cheese said:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/foreign-criminals-to-face-immediate-deportation

Terrorists, murderers and others serving life sentences will continue to have to serve their prison sentence before being considered for deportation.  

😆😆😆 ten out of ten for trying but you’re just digging  a bigger hole. Like athy said, “migrants convicted of ANY crime.

 

Its like you don’t read 

Edited Wednesday at 06:55 by royal white

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, royal white said:

So if someone was to commit a horrific crime against someone you know you’d be happy for them just to be sent back home as a punishment.  We got there eventually. 

This is an interesting point.

In one view, yes lock them up then deport.

In another, why go to all that expense?

Send them back immediately, having taken all their biometric data. 

If their country doesn't lock them up that would be a shame, but you'd imagine repeating the offense may see them punished.

If their country lops of their head, then tough.

A difficult conundrum for sure. 

Maybe let the victim's family have some input.

[royal white]

5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

This is an interesting point.

In one view, yes lock them up then deport.

In another, why go to all that expense?

Send them back immediately, having taken all their biometric data. 

If their country doesn't lock them up that would be a shame, but you'd imagine repeating the offense may see them punished.

If their country lops of their head, then tough.

A difficult conundrum for sure. 

Maybe let the victim's family have some input.

You go that expense because they’ve committed a crime, regardless of their nationality. 
 

Imagine a family member being raped and the judge turning round and saying “ he should be getting 10 years but instead we will send him back to Ireland” you’d be raging….well I know I would 

[Winchester White]

24 minutes ago, royal white said:

You go that expense because they’ve committed a crime, regardless of their nationality. 
 

Imagine a family member being raped and the judge turning round and saying “ he should be getting 10 years but instead we will send him back to Ireland” you’d be raging….well I know I would 

Yeah if someone does something like that then they should be deported after first serving time in prison.

Which is what happens now isn't it or have I misread?

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, Winchester White said:

Yeah if someone does something like that then they should be deported after first serving time in prison.

Which is what happens now isn't it or have I misread?

It does happen now, I'm not sure it always has though

[royal white]

41 minutes ago, Sweep said:

It does happen now, I'm not sure it always has though

It’s been going on for years for some crimes. Both myself and athy said we would welcome It for all crimes. Cheese an NIC tried to be smart and imply it was something that Labour had put in place when in fact it was the opposite. This is what happens when you don’t read the links you’re  posting. 

[frank_spencer]

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

It does happen now, I'm not sure it always has though

Unless the lawyers manage to argue the criminal would be in danger if they get sent back.

In my view that's tough shit you had your chance to be safe from those threats but fucked it up. Home you go.

[Winchester White]

19 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Unless the lawyers manage to argue the criminal would be in danger if they get sent back.

In my view that's tough shit you had your chance to be safe from those threats but fucked it up. Home you go.

Exactly, this is why people rightly get pissed off with the situation.

I also assume we would have to have some sort of agreement in place with whichever country we are deporting them back to?

[royal white]

1 hour ago, frank_spencer said:

Unless the lawyers manage to argue the criminal would be in danger if they get sent back.

In my view that's tough shit you had your chance to be safe from those threats but fucked it up. Home you go.

Let’s not forget not all foreigners come from shit holes 

[frank_spencer]

17 minutes ago, royal white said:

Let’s not forget not all foreigners come from shit holes 

True but they'd be very hard pressed to argue the danger related to going back home.

Also I'm not talking petty criminals being automatically deported. But anyone with violent crimes should be straight on the 1st flight upon finishing your sentence.

[bolty58]

20 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

True but they'd be very hard pressed to argue the danger related to going back home.

Also I'm not talking petty criminals being automatically deported. But anyone with violent crimes should be straight on the 1st flight upon finishing your sentence.

Unless they declare themselves to be gay?

[frank_spencer]

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

Unless they declare themselves to be gay?

Nah I'd still send em back. You knew all this before committing the crime.

[bolty58]

13 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

Nah I'd still send em back. You knew all this before committing the crime.

I knew nothing. Honest m'lud.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

On 06/05/2026 at 08:31, royal white said:

You go that expense because they’ve committed a crime, regardless of their nationality. 
 

Imagine a family member being raped and the judge turning round and saying “ he should be getting 10 years but instead we will send him back to Ireland” you’d be raging….well I know I would 

The expense of keeping them!

Ireland, as a civilised nation, I would imagine would also lock the said twat up.

I would guess that victims' families would be more concerned about the possibility of someone being deported to a nation that wouldn't lock the guilty individual up.

As I said, if you let the families have input, then maybe that would be a solution.