6 coppers to take him down or 1 member of the public with his bike? 
 

 

 

3 hours ago, Cheese said:

So he'd rather have lived under Nazi occupation?

I'm assuming you agree with him, so could you explain what aspects of British society are worse now than they were in the 1930's?

You assume a lot don't you eh.    I empathise with the old fellas feelings that his efforts and those of the comrades he lost during the war were all in vain.

4 minutes ago, burnden said:

You assume a lot don't you eh.    I empathise with the old fellas feelings that his efforts and those of the comrades he lost during the war were all in vain.

they destroyed the nazis

it wasn't in vain at all

1 minute ago, Zico said:

they destroyed the nazis

it wasn't in vain at all

Plenty of them still about, maybe that's why he's upset.

3 hours ago, burnden said:

Heartbreaking hearing this old fella speak

 

 

though I was half expecting him to go off on one like this

 

9 minutes ago, burnden said:

You assume a lot don't you eh.    I empathise with the old fellas feelings that his efforts and those of the comrades he lost during the war were all in vain.

Yes, I do. I empathise with the old fella too. I just don't understand why he'd rather have lived his life under Nazi occupation than what we have today - which is basically unfettered Freedom. Maybe I've misunderstood and he's lamenting the resurgence of the Far Right?

The rise of Islam is as far right as you can get.

14 minutes ago, burnden said:

You assume a lot don't you eh.    I empathise with the old fellas feelings that his efforts and those of the comrades he lost during the war were all in vain.

I think that’s a bit of an exaggeration if that’s what he believes. 

I do empathise with him fwiw & I can understand if he thinks society was better in some ways. But it’s bonkers if he thinks stopping Nazism was in vein.

 It’s also not clear what he means. 

Is he worried about the rise of the far right? Or the rise of Islamism ? Or immigration? Who knows

Probably just society which is in the fucking gutter.

Polarised, divided and full of hate.

Wasters crippling the economy.

Migration out of control.

Cost of living and taxes and poverty through the roof.

The pound weaker that it's ever been and national debt and bond markets out of control.

NHS a complete money pit and one big disaster.

So yeah he probably means all that.

And it rains more too.

 

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Probably just society which is in the fucking gutter.

Polarised, divided and full of hate.

Wasters crippling the economy.

Migration out of control.

Cost of living and taxes and poverty through the roof.

The pound weaker that it's ever been and national debt and bond markets out of control.

NHS a complete money pit and one big disaster.

So yeah he probably means all that.

And it rains more too.

Would you rather be alive now, or in the early 1900's? Or more importantly, would you rather your kids lived in the early 1900's, or nowadays?

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1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Would you rather be alive now, or in the early 1900's?

You'd have to ask someone who was alive then.

I'm 41. Ask me was life better in the 90s or 00s I'd say yeah. Life was better without social media and the country was in much better state in the Blair years.

5 minutes ago, gonzo said:

You'd have to ask someone who was alive then.

I'm 41. Ask me was life better in the 90s or 00s I'd say yeah. Life was better without social media and the country was in much better state in the Blair years.

It's been downhill since the 2012 Olympics/Jubilee combo.

10 minutes ago, gonzo said:

You'd have to ask someone who was alive then.

I'm 41. Ask me was life better in the 90s or 00s I'd say yeah. Life was better without social media and the country was in much better state in the Blair years.

no decade will ever beat the 90s

was the golden age of everything

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

You'd have to ask someone who was alive then.

I'm 41. Ask me was life better in the 90s or 00s I'd say yeah. Life was better without social media and the country was in much better state in the Blair years.

Until towards the end.

They did well initially- taking on a decent situation and improving it.

The growth of the services sector (financial especially) bit us hard when the 2008 crash happened. 

Traditional thinking says that the higher the level of services in an economy, the more the level development, success etc it has.

Newer thinking says this might not be true.

The comparative lack of manufacturing does seem to have affected us, though this is now changing somewhat, which is good news.

Country's wealth is being sucked dry... Medipro was an example of how the elite are taking money out and squirreling it away in offshore IOM and British Virgin Isles.

Oversea "investors" are bleeding us dry... Vets, Water, Rolling stocks, Telecoms... owned by Canadians, Italians, Chinese and so on... globalisation has done for us. Workers claiming benefits because the corporations don't pay enough money.

Then there's the spaceman who supplies everything you need without getting off your arse and he and his associates pay almost no VAT.

The only thing I agreed with Reves on was restructuring our pension funds so UK funds can invest in major infrastructure.

19 minutes ago, Zico said:

no decade will ever beat the 90s

was the golden age of everything

The 80s 

35 minutes ago, gonzo said:

You'd have to ask someone who was alive then.

I'm 41. Ask me was life better in the 90s or 00s I'd say yeah. Life was better without social media and the country was in much better state in the Blair years.

I'm asking you. Surely you've been taught what life was like back then? Or read a book or watched a documentary about it? I guarantee the working class of that era (regardless of age) would fucking LOVE to live like we do. All you have to do is imagine life without the NHS, and you'll realise you're far better off. As is the old fella who seems to be saying he'd prefer it if the Nazi's had won.

Edited November 7, 2025Nov 7 by Cheese

One in 5 people of working age don't work and are therefore claiming benefit of some sort. Something needs sorting to make that situation better. It would be great if things were back like the 60's where a labourer could earn enough on his own to raise a couple of kids and have his tea on the table when he got in but that is long gone. Add to that in order to survive, both parents need to work and many get benefits even though they are working because living costs have far outstripped wage growth.

Meanwhile there have never been so many millionaires in this country and yet trickle down economics doesn't seem to be working, who'd have thunk it.

4 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

One in 5 people of working age don't work and are therefore claiming benefit of some sort. Something needs sorting to make that situation better. It would be great if things were back like the 60's where a labourer could earn enough on his own to raise a couple of kids and have his tea on the table when he got in but that is long gone. Add to that in order to survive, both parents need to work and many get benefits even though they are working because living costs have far outstripped wage growth.

Meanwhile there have never been so many millionaires in this country and yet trickle down economics doesn't seem to be working, who'd have thunk it.

1990 - 1995 was the best this country has ever been and I’ll take no argument.

31 minutes ago, Zico said:

no decade will ever beat the 90s

was the golden age of everything

I'm with LW saying the 80's, but that's our era when we started boozing/clubbing it etc

Your era is the 90's, great era don't get me wrong.

The older chaps on here will say the 70's when their drinking days and Scamps started.

Ultimately,  the time each person started boozing and going to clubs etc is their personal and greatest era/decade......though for tunes and E's......the late 80's will never be matched 😉 

5 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

One in 5 people of working age don't work and are therefore claiming benefit of some sort. Something needs sorting to make that situation better. It would be great if things were back like the 60's where a labourer could earn enough on his own to raise a couple of kids and have his tea on the table when he got in but that is long gone. Add to that in order to survive, both parents need to work and many get benefits even though they are working because living costs have far outstripped wage growth.

Meanwhile there have never been so many millionaires in this country and yet trickle down economics doesn't seem to be working, who'd have thunk it.

Bit sexist there mate 😂 

The "best era" is always when you were young and had barely any financial/health worries.

3 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Bit sexist there mate 😂 

Haha, you know what I mean though, a family could live off one income.

27 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I'm asking you. Surely you've been taught what life was like back then? Or read a book or watched a documentary about it? I guarantee the working class of that era (regardless of age) would fucking LOVE to live like we do. All you have to do is imagine life without the NHS, and you'll realise you're far better off. As is the old fella who seems to be saying he'd prefer it if the Nazi's had won.

The conversation is about the old boy.

Me personally hell yeah I'd pick now.

But I'm pretty sure the bloke is talking about values and the likes.

Something we couldn't understand not living in those times.

Same way my kids dont understand when I see being a kid back in 80s ans 90s was better than it is in. We made dens and rope swings and stuff. They'll sit looking at their PS5s and think what the fuck you talking about.

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5 minutes ago, Cheese said:

The "best era" is always when you were young and had barely any financial/health worries.

The country is in its poorest state for since Blair imo. Regardless of my life's circumstance.