Meanwhile In England

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

I think you and Lammy have lost yourselves. So to be clear according to You it was peaceful. Lammy says the opposite. You’re all for the right to protest apart from some foreigners who spread hate, they shouldn’t be allowed to protest whilst at the same time allowing Mr spreader of hate, Tommy Robinson to host a demo in the capital. All this why the government are holding talks about banning some of the Pro Palestine who have been doing the same for years. Yep that’s straightforward enough 🤯🤯  

😂😂

Another RW ramble of made up conclusions.

I think most of the public would be happy for us to stop extremists entering the country. Whether that’s for pro Palestine demos or far right ones 

[royal white]

45 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

😂😂

Another RW ramble of made up conclusions.

I think most of the public would be happy for us to stop extremists entering the country. Whether that’s for pro Palestine demos or far right ones 

So why didn’t they stop the organiser? You know Tommy Robinson who lives in Spain? Why are they only at the talking stage for the PP lot?

[Sweep]

59 minutes ago, royal white said:

So why didn’t they stop the organiser? You know Tommy Robinson who lives in Spain? Why are they only at the talking stage for the PP lot?

I have wondered why they don't bar him from coming into the country - he travels on an Irish passport, so they could, if they wanted to. Although I guess that would make him some sort of Martyr to his followers

[Traf]

Just now, Sweep said:

I have wondered why they don't bar him from coming into the country - he travels on an Irish passport, so they could, if they wanted to. Although I guess that would make him some sort of Martyr to his followers

I think he has a UK passport too, which he uses to enter the UK and then travels overseas on the Irish one, as we all pretty much would post-Brexit.

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Why are they only at the talking stage for the PP lot?

Who’s only at the talking stage for the PP lot ? 
 

Because TR isn’t applying for a visa to enter. 

 The others had their visas blocked.

[royal white]

40 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Who’s only at the talking stage for the PP lot ? 
 

Because TR isn’t applying for a visa to enter. 

 The others had their visas blocked.

I’m going off what you said.

So don’t allow politicians from a European ally in incase he says some Bad words. Have you seen some of the politicians from around the world that Starmer has been sitting down with lately? 

[royal white]

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

I have wondered why they don't bar him from coming into the country - he travels on an Irish passport, so they could, if they wanted to. Although I guess that would make him some sort of Martyr to his followers

Seems like British extremists are fine, god forbid if you’re a foreign one though. 

[kent_white]

36 minutes ago, royal white said:

Seems like British extremists are fine, god forbid if you’re a foreign one though. 

We have different powers of control with foreign visitors that we do with UK citizens though. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

36 minutes ago, royal white said:

I’m going off what you said.

So don’t allow politicians from a European ally in incase he says some Bad words. Have you seen some of the politicians from around the world that Starmer has been sitting down with lately? 

Blocking an EU Parliamentarian doesn't bode well for Starmer et al wanting to rejoin the EU.

Would be better off out surely, if that's his game.

Doesn't matter what side of the political divide someone is from, when this occurs then political, authoritarian censureship raises its head.

Still, if he'd called for an intifada against Jews, the bloke would have had a warm welcome, so there isn't really anything to see.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2026/05/18/deportation-flights-on-board-catering-changed-after-pork-sausages-served/

One way of deterring folk. 😀

[kent_white]

10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Still, if he'd called for an intifada against Jews, the bloke would have had a warm welcome, so there isn't really anything to see.

If the authorities knew about it. Saying something like this would almost certainly lead to a ban on travel to the UK. 

We can refuse entry for anybody making or intending to make speeches with the aim of inciting ethnic, racial, religious or other discriminatory violence. 

Hence why those people were probably prevented from entering the UK for the unite march. 

[royal white]

29 minutes ago, kent_white said:

If the authorities knew about it. Saying something like this would almost certainly lead to a ban on travel to the UK. 

We can refuse entry for anybody making or intending to make speeches with the aim of inciting ethnic, racial, religious or other discriminatory violence. 

Hence why those people were probably prevented from entering the UK for the unite march. 

Did he do anything bad when attended last years? Why block a politician from entering but allow an utter scroat who’s caused more trouble than the majority of those refused entry, to organise, run and host one? 

[London Wanderer]

30 minutes ago, kent_white said:

If the authorities knew about it. Saying something like this would almost certainly lead to a ban on travel to the UK. 

We can refuse entry for anybody making or intending to make speeches with the aim of inciting ethnic, racial, religious or other discriminatory violence. 

Hence why those people were probably prevented from entering the UK for the unite march. 

Aye

 It doesn’t need overcomplicating 

[kent_white]

Just now, royal white said:

Did he do anything bad when attended last years? Why block a politician from entering but allow an utter scroat who’s caused more trouble than the majority of those refused entry, to organise, run and host one? 

I don't know who it is that you're upset has been banned? 

The utter scrote is British unfortunately - so he's our problem. But as a Brit - has a right to protest. 

[royal white]

Just now, kent_white said:

I don't know who it is that you're upset has been banned? 

The utter scrote is British unfortunately - so he's our problem. But as a Brit - has a right to protest. 

Finally you agree, so it’s ok to be a Brit spouting hate shite but you can’t do it as a foreigner. Not very fair really is it. 
 

 

[kent_white]

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

Finally you agree, so it’s ok to be a Brit spouting hate shite but you can’t do it as a foreigner. Not very fair really is it. 
 

 

I'm not sure we do agree. I think it's absolutely fair to deny foreigners who are spouting hate shit entry to the country. 

[royal white]

40 minutes ago, kent_white said:

If the authorities knew about it. Saying something like this would almost certainly lead to a ban on travel to the UK. 

We can refuse entry for anybody making or intending to make speeches with the aim of inciting ethnic, racial, religious or other discriminatory violence. 

Hence why those people were probably prevented from entering the UK for the unite march. 

I think you’ve massively missed TMGJ point/saracsm 😆

[royal white]

Just now, kent_white said:

I'm not sure we do agree. I think it's absolutely fair to deny foreigners who are spouting hate shit entry to the country. 

But it ok for Brits doing the same to host a demo in the Capital? Make it make sense. 
 

Have a look who Starmer has sat down with lately. 

[kent_white]

1 minute ago, royal white said:

I think you’ve massively missed TMGJ point/saracsm 😆

Sorry TMGJ if you were being sarcastic? 

It didn't sound like you were to be honest. 

[kent_white]

Just now, royal white said:

But it ok for Brits doing the same to host a demo in the Capital? Make it make sense. 
 

Have a look who Starmer has sat down with lately. 

We give British people more rights to protest than we do foreigners. I don't think that's a bad thing - as I agree with the right to protest. Which I know you don't. 

Who is it that Starmer has sat down with that you're unhappy about?

[BobyBrno]

[kent_white]

Just now, BobyBrno said:

You're upset that he's sat down with the President of the US?

[royal white]

1 minute ago, kent_white said:

We give British people more rights to protest than we do foreigners. I don't think that's a bad thing - as I agree with the right to protest. Which I know you don't. 

Who is it that Starmer has sat down with that you're unhappy about?

Im not unhappy about any but your man from Syria has done a lot  more than shout a few hurty words in the past. And what about the Don? He’s been called everything here, bigot, racist, fascist. 
 

Im trying to work out the reasoning for them being banned, some attended last year and there were minimal arrests if they’re concerned about hate speech why let someone renowned for hate speech organise a protest? If there was no hate speech and it was a peaceful  rally, as LW said, then what the fuck was Lammy on about? 

[kent_white]

53 minutes ago, royal white said:

Im not unhappy about any but your man from Syria has done a lot  more than shout a few hurty words in the past. And what about the Don? He’s been called everything here, bigot, racist, fascist. 
 

Im trying to work out the reasoning for them being banned, some attended last year and there were minimal arrests if they’re concerned about hate speech why let someone renowned for hate speech organise a protest? If there was no hate speech and it was a peaceful  rally, as LW said, then what the fuck was Lammy on about? 

Which man from Syria? I'm not being an arse - I genuinely just don't know who you mean?

The Don is (sadly) the elected president of the most powerful country on the planet - and historically our closest ally. It would be crazy to expect a government to ban him from entering the country. And he wasn't coming over with the express intention of joining a protest march either. Equally, I would expect the US to reject a visa for any famous left wing agitators who were flying over to cause trouble at a march in the US. 

I don't know what the people you're referring to did or didn't do last year. Maybe they were being observed at the time and crossed a red line? 

Did LW really say there was no hate speech at the march? I'd be surprised if he did. Especially as there were documented arrests for it. LW will have to answer that one.

Like I said the other day - the risks of banning the protest are probably worse than the risks of letting it go ahead. It's a useful safety valve I suppose. Whether I agree with them or not, those people got to exercise their democratic right to protest and made their voices heard within the confines of the law. Some of those who overstepped the mark were arrested. 

I think the balance is about right here. 

And thankfully it passed off peacefully for the most part. I imagine they would only consider banning it if there were widespread violence and/or disruption.

[royal white]

17 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Which man from Syria? I'm not being an arse - I genuinely just don't know who you mean?

The Don is (sadly) the elected president of the most powerful country on the planet - and historically our closest ally. It would be crazy to expect a government to ban him from entering the country. And he wasn't coming over with the express intention of joining a protest march either. Equally, I would expect the US to reject a visa for any famous left wing agitators who were flying over to cause trouble at a march in the US. 

I don't know what the people you're referring to did or didn't do last year. Maybe they were being observed at the time and crossed a red line? 

Did LW really say there was no hate speech at the march? I'd be surprised if he did. Especially as there were documented arrests for it. LW will have to answer that one.

Like I said the other day - the risks of banning the protest are probably worse than the risks of letting it go ahead. It's a useful safety valve I suppose. Whether I agree with them or not, those people got to exercise their democratic right to protest and made their voices heard within the confines of the law. Some of those who overstepped the mark were arrested. 

I think the balance is about right here. 

And thankfully it passed off peacefully for the most part. I imagine they would only consider banning it if there were widespread violence and/or disruption.

You definitely need a news app on your phone. Ahmed Al Sahara, Google him. 
 

So hate speaking foreigners are allowed as long as they have some clout about them. 
 

Back to Lammy, he said the organisers were spreading hate and division, of those arrested for hate speech none were the organisers. So again, what the fuck is Lammy papping on about? He mentioned total arrests over both demos as all being from the unite lot, again he was wrong, basically he papped shite for a couple of minutes and getting the basics wrong. Obviously LW agreed with him.