Meanwhile In England

[kent_white]

8 hours ago, Zico said:

Have a look at this absolute abomination (if you have Facebook) 😁

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1ZU55qKZay/

 

[Spider]

32 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Have a look at this absolute abomination (if you have Facebook) 😁

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1ZU55qKZay/

 

😂😂😂😂

and half a million patriots all went to watch it

[kent_white]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

😂😂😂😂

and half a million patriots all went to watch it

In his head - he probably thinks this is Freddie Mercury at Live Aidesque 😁

[only1swanny]

Oh that's bad..

Just the men.... ... .. .

Now the women "ohw.".. nope just one..

 

Carry on anyway

[burnden]

@metpoliceuk

 

 

We’re now able to provide a more detailed breakdown of the 43 arrests during yesterday’s central London public order policing operation.

 

 

Not a great deal of arrests considering the amount of people at both marches + fa cup + plus everyday policing.

[only1swanny]

7 minutes ago, burnden said:

@metpoliceuk

 

 

We’re now able to provide a more detailed breakdown of the 43 arrests during yesterday’s central London public order policing operation.

 

 

Not a great deal of arrests considering the amount of people at both marches + fa cup + plus everyday policing.

Assuming the low arrest is on account of a good standard of Policing? 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 hours ago, Traf said:

So you're against yesterday's Unite The Kingdom march and the subsequent counter protest?

Why would I be?

Right to protest etc.

 

[royal white]

14 hours ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

What do you think he believes then?......theres very little criticism of the anti semitic marches we see through our city centres every weekend  or labelling of them as far left thugs

Good point, they’re pretty much on a regular basis with many arrests yet I’ve not seen much criticism. 
 

As for protests, they should all be banned, absolute waste of time, money and resources. 

[Sweep]

29 minutes ago, royal white said:

Good point, they’re pretty much on a regular basis with many arrests yet I’ve not seen much criticism. 
 

As for protests, they should all be banned, absolute waste of time, money and resources. 

100% agree

If they do have to happen, then they should know that they will have to run the gauntlet of water cannons and cattle prods

[DirtySanchez]

7 minutes ago, Sweep said:

100% agree

If they do have to happen, then they should know that they will have to run the gauntlet of water cannons and cattle prods

Apparently the policing cost £4.5m yesterday 

And folk complain there aren't enough bobbies on the beat 

[kent_white]

51 minutes ago, royal white said:

Good point, they’re pretty much on a regular basis with many arrests yet I’ve not seen much criticism. 

Keir Starmer was in the news as recently as last week (just before the leadership challenge) saying that he thinks marches where people are shouting 'from the river the the sea' or 'globalise the infitada' could be banned under new legislation and that both these phrases should be considered anti semetic. 

[deeane Koontz]

Not wrong tbf

 

[kent_white]

58 minutes ago, royal white said:

As for protests, they should all be banned, absolute waste of time, money and resources. 

That's a bit authoritarian for me.....

Whilst I agree it's largely a waste of time and I might not agree with the sentiments. People should have a right to protest. 

I'd say the same time KS as well......

 

[London Wanderer]

2 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

Not wrong tbf

 

Very very odd 

[kent_white]

1 minute ago, deeane Koontz said:

Not wrong tbf

 

FFS 🙄

[London Wanderer]

Just now, kent_white said:

That's a bit authoritarian for me.....

Whilst I agree it's largely a waste of time and I might not agree with the sentiments. People should have a right to protest. 

I'd say the same time KS as well......

 

No idea how anyone can honestly think it’s fine to ban protests just because they’re expensive to police 

Yes if a group are persistently being aggressive & causing criminal damage.

But banning peaceful protest (of which both were yesterday) is just authoritarian nonsense. Can’t get much more anti British than that.
 

Credit to the police yesterday. Incredible operation. They were helped by the fact the vast majority on both sides weren’t there to cause trouble 

[royal white]

25 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

No idea how anyone can honestly think it’s fine to ban protests just because they’re expensive to police 

Yes if a group are persistently being aggressive & causing criminal damage.

But banning peaceful protest (of which both were yesterday) is just authoritarian nonsense. Can’t get much more anti British than that.
 

Credit to the police yesterday. Incredible operation. They were helped by the fact the vast majority on both sides weren’t there to cause trouble 

Because many people like me think it’s a waste of time. Police time could be better spent fighting crime, money could be spent between elsewhere, shops can continue operating for day. Etc etc 

 

 

[kent_white]

Just now, royal white said:

Because many people like me think it’s a waste of time. Police time could be better spent fighting crime, money could be spent between elsewhere, shops can continue operating for day. Etc etc 

 

 

The problem is - if you banned those marches yesterday - you'd have every far right/far left nut job in the country rioting because they'd not been able to make their voices heard. And they would feel repressed. 

You can't say on one hand 'we need to start listening to the people' and on the other 'but we should also deny them the right to protest'.

It's expensive granted. But it's one of the costs of running a democracy. 

[royal white]

3 minutes ago, kent_white said:

The problem is - if you banned those marches yesterday - you'd have every far right/far left nut job in the country rioting because they'd not been able to make their voices heard. And they would feel repressed. 

You can't say on one hand 'we need to start listening to the people' and on the other 'but we should also deny them the right to protest'.

It's expensive granted. But it's one of the costs of running a democracy. 

I’ve not said on any hand they need to listen to us. Do you think Starmer is going to listen  to the far right now Or the pro Palestine lot because they’ve had an afternoon  in the smoke?  Have any of the recent protests seen a reaction from the goverment in the way the protestors wanted? 

[kent_white]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

I’ve not said on any hand they need to listen to us. Do you think Starmer is going to listen  to the far right now Or the pro Palestine lot because they’ve had an afternoon  in the smoke?  Have any of the recent protests seen a reaction from the goverment in the way the protestors wanted? 

No I meant in general. I thought you'd been saying for years that the main polical parties haven't been listening to white, working class voters - and that was one of the reasons for their decline? Fair enough if that's not the case and I've misunderstood your position. 

In any event - I still don't like the idea of a government being able to ban protests. 

[gonzo]

6 minutes ago, kent_white said:

No I meant in general. I thought you'd been saying for years that the main polical parties haven't been listening to white, working class voters - and that was one of the reasons for their decline? Fair enough if that's not the case and I've misunderstood your position. 

In any event - I still don't like the idea of a government being able to ban protests. 

Dictatorship territory that.

[kent_white]

6 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Dictatorship territory that.

Yeah I think so too. I get what Royal is saying like. They're annoying and don't tend to achieve anything other than rub other people up the wrong way. But I woundn't want my government telling me what I can or can't protest about. 

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Because many people like me think it’s a waste of time. Police time could be better spent fighting crime, money could be spent between elsewhere, shops can continue operating for day. Etc etc 

 

 

Yes it's shit at times and you'd rather have police time and resources spent elsewhere. 

But you can't ban protest. It's a fundamental of every democracy. You're literally making a case for living under an authoritative regime. 

Quick google search tells me football policing is still costing the taxpayer tens of millions a year after club contributions. Do we ban that as well because it's a waste of police time? 

[London Wanderer]

58 minutes ago, royal white said:

I’ve not said on any hand they need to listen to us. Do you think Starmer is going to listen  to the far right now Or the pro Palestine lot because they’ve had an afternoon  in the smoke?  Have any of the recent protests seen a reaction from the goverment in the way the protestors wanted? 

I think Labour and the Tories have been taking note of the growing discontent regarding immigration. The size of the UTK march last year was huge for a right wing demo. They got their point across, as much as I disagree with it. 

Plenty examples throughout British history of protest changing things. Plenty examples of it turning folk of your cause as well fwiw

[only1swanny]

2 hours ago, deeane Koontz said:

Not wrong tbf

 

Posted this morning on a facebook group "Bolton Banter"..

 

Failing to see the joke in any way shape or form. Also she doesn't appear to have a British accent there, the fact they're cheering shows it's not anti immigration, simply Anti-Asian..