Escaped prisoner

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Terror suspect has escaped from Wandsworth, possibly underneath a delivery truck. Dressed in chefs outfit.

Like something from a movie.

[Spider]

He’s military, so proves we’re training Our Boys well 😁

[Tonge moor green jacket]

13 minutes ago, Spider said:

He’s military, so proves we’re training Our Boys well 😁

He's been watching Jean-Claude Van Damme movies whilst on remand.

Perhaps he'll take one of the many dinghies that have arrived on our shores, and make his escape. 

[Spider]

5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

He's been watching Jean-Claude Van Damme movies whilst on remand.

Perhaps he'll take one of the many dinghies that have arrived on our shores, and make his escape. 

He’ll have to make sure he doesn’t sink. Throwing away all the stethoscopes and books the doctors and lawyers left in the boats will help.

[stevieb]

Proper krays stuff this isn't. 

Daniel the rogue prisoner 

He isn't a risk to the public but it's all over the news and we shouldn't approach him. 

Borders on alert 

Surname Khaleef @Johnny1990

 

[Spider]

1 minute ago, stevieb said:

Proper krays stuff this isn't. 

Daniel the rogue prisoner 

He isn't a risk to the public but it's all over the news and we shouldn't approach him. 

Borders on alert 

Surname Khaleef @Johnny1990

 

Confusing.

Johnny will be an avid poppy wearer, but now it’s tinged with the detrimental knowledge that it’s in honour of the Islamic nutjobs that have been allowed to fight bravely for us all.

Harrowing,

[stevieb]

He's an army veteran. But they've not said which army 

Reckon he's been to helmand. Just not sure which side. 

[Spider]

16 minutes ago, stevieb said:

He's an army veteran. But they've not said which army 

Reckon he's been to helmand. Just not sure which side. 

He’s British army. Special forces, not your ordinary Baldrick.

Put an extra 20p in the poppy tray this year.

[royal white]

6 hours ago, Spider said:

He’s British army. Special forces, not your ordinary Baldrick.

Put an extra 20p in the poppy tray this year.

Special forces? 

[stevieb]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

Special forces? 

Super Army Soldiers 

[Spider]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Special forces? 

 

[Farrelli]

Another great example of the party of law and order. Apparently at Wandsworth prison recently there were seven members of staff on a night shift looking after over 1000 prisoners. Absolutely ridiculous how prisons are being run.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

https://doingtime.co.uk/how-prisons-work/the-first-weeks-in-custody/the-first-night/#:~:text=The majority of prisons lock,will have a call button.

How many officers does it take when everyone is locked in a cell?

 

[royal white]

46 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

https://doingtime.co.uk/how-prisons-work/the-first-weeks-in-custody/the-first-night/#:~:text=The majority of prisons lock,will have a call button.

How many officers does it take when everyone is locked in a cell?

 

Rishis fault. There should be at least 149 officers on duty 24/7 

[Farrelli]

12 minutes ago, royal white said:

Rishis fault. There should be at least 149 officers on duty 24/7 

The prison service has seen significantly reduced funding during the last 13 years but like schools, hospitals, police, transport, energy, river quality and every other public service it has nothing to do with the Tories apparently 🤔

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Farrelli said:

The prison service has seen significantly reduced funding during the last 13 years but like schools, hospitals, police, transport, energy, river quality and every other public service it has nothing to do with the Tories apparently 🤔

So how many prison officers should have been on. What number would have prevented his escaping? 

[Farrelli]

RW is here not defending the government 😅

 

[royal white]

4 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

RW is here not defending the government 😅

 

RW is here asking how many prison officers does it take to prevent someone escaping from their cell, you seem to know so come on tell the class. 

[mickbrown]

6 hours ago, stevieb said:

Super Army Soldiers 

Not SBS? 
 

Like Super Army Soldiers, but boats. 

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Not SBS? 
 

Like Super Army Soldiers, but boats. 

And better 😉

[Tonge moor green jacket]

25 minutes ago, royal white said:

RW is here asking how many prison officers does it take to prevent someone escaping from their cell, you seem to know so come on tell the class. 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/914549/number-of-prison-officers-england-wales/#:~:text=In 2023 there were approximately,compared with 22%2C001 in 2022.

Like all public services, numbers were hit after the financial crash.

Even the labour party acknowledged that there was no money.

Absolute ignorance to pretend that numbers could be maintained, and whoever came into power after the crash would have cut spending.

The debate as to whether it went on too long will forever be debated- but what the figures show is that since 2019 spending on public sector jobs has risen, in accordance with manifestos that both main parties promised.

These sorts of figures and mirrored in all sorts of areas.

Of course it doesn't fit the narrative, so the reality is ignored.

Still work to do to bring numbers back up in some areas, and that will continue whoever forms the next government. 

[Farrelli]

I tell you what is absolute ignorance, defending these clowns who have been running every public service down for 13 years.
 

Always someone else’s fault. They never take responsibility for anything. Yesterday we had the absurdity of the PM denying that his 50% cuts on school repair bills had anything to do with schools at risk of falling down. The day before the Education Secretary wanted thanks for doing a good job😅

We all know money can’t be spent everywhere but a bit of honesty would not go amiss now and then. If Sunak had said other priorities had existed in 2020 when he reduced the repair budget and a difficult decision was made he would get some respect. Truth is they were infighting over brexit in 2019/2020 so running the country was neglected.

 

[Duck Egg]

37 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

I tell you what is absolute ignorance, defending these clowns who have been running every public service down for 13 years.
 

Always someone else’s fault. They never take responsibility for anything. Yesterday we had the absurdity of the PM denying that his 50% cuts on school repair bills had anything to do with schools at risk of falling down. The day before the Education Secretary wanted thanks for doing a good job😅

We all know money can’t be spent everywhere but a bit of honesty would not go amiss now and then. If Sunak had said other priorities had existed in 2020 when he reduced the repair budget and a difficult decision was made he would get some respect. Truth is they were infighting over brexit in 2019/2020 so running the country was neglected.

 

Ran out of likes so have a +1.

#cutshaveconsequences

[Not in Crawley]

47 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

I tell you what is absolute ignorance, defending these clowns who have been running every public service down for 13 years.
 

Always someone else’s fault. They never take responsibility for anything. Yesterday we had the absurdity of the PM denying that his 50% cuts on school repair bills had anything to do with schools at risk of falling down. The day before the Education Secretary wanted thanks for doing a good job😅

We all know money can’t be spent everywhere but a bit of honesty would not go amiss now and then. If Sunak had said other priorities had existed in 2020 when he reduced the repair budget and a difficult decision was made he would get some respect. Truth is they were infighting over brexit in 2019/2020 so running the country was neglected.

 

STOP IGNORING MY THE REALITY

[athywhite1958]

When a vehicle enters a prison it is stopped in between the front gates and inner gates, occupants have to get out and book in showing photo ID, the vehicle is then searched, a large mirror on the ceiling helps to see if there is anything on top and long handled mirrors are used to look underneath, occupants must leave all personal articles at the gate i.e. phones etc. The person escorting the vehicle (Operational Support Grade OSG)requests permission from the control room to escort the vehicle to the destination (kitchen) this gives control the knowledge the vehicle is on the move and can halt any other movement in that area, there is also CCTV monitoring. On arrival at the kitchen the kitchen staff and the driver and his mate unload the vehicle, the OSG reports the number of prisoners to the control room and watches all the time. When unloading is complete the kitchen staff do a count of their numbers and the OSG again reports the numbers of prisoners to the control room then escorts the vehicle back to the gate where it is again searched between the 2 sets of gates, once everyone is happy that all is correct the vehicle is allowed to go. That is what should happen, obviously too many here have not done their job or was it an inside job?