Hs2 re-visited

[Mounts Kipper]

3 minutes ago, tomski said:

No I think they spread the money a bit more even. 

For the record I only think Manchester United are worse than this government 😂
 

On that we can both agree. 👍

[Spider]

5 minutes ago, tomski said:

No I think they spread the money a bit more even. 

For the record I only think Manchester United are worse than this government 😂
 

Now hang on a minute, you’ve not given Liverpool a chance to take the title

[tomski]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

Now hang on a minute, you’ve not given Liverpool a chance to take the title

Not even close. Clear wankers but not my concern😎

[Cheese]

25 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

Could see the tram line extending to Bolton from this, be great if the case 

Don't hold your breath.

[Sweep]

29 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

You don’t think the EU is exactly same, probably worse, check out the money fiddled that was recently highlighted. 
 

They'd have to go some to be worse than this lot

[frank_spencer]

6 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Don't hold your breath.

Not gonna happen.

The only way the tram would come to Bolton is from Bury and a good chunk of that route has been built on 

[Sweep]

Just now, frank_spencer said:

Not gonna happen.

The only way the tram would come to Bolton is from Bury and a good chunk of that route has been built on 

That's what I thought, I'd be very surprised if Bolton gets attached to the tram system 

[Nowack]

I thought they had a route from four lane ends, along the old train line that went down Derby St.

[tomski]

6 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Not gonna happen.

The only way the tram would come to Bolton is from Bury and a good chunk of that route has been built on 

Sure it’s in Bradley fold isn’t it?

[frank_spencer]

Just now, tomski said:

Sure it’s in Bradley fold isn’t it?

Bradley Fold is the biggest obstacle yup.

The train lines are out as it's a through route.

Any other route would just be too expensive 

[tomski]

2 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Bradley Fold is the biggest obstacle yup.

The train lines are out as it's a through route.

Any other route would just be too expensive 

Thought so. To be fair he said he’d get a tram from the airport to Manchester today which is stunning as its already up and running. What a guy ha

[globaldiver]

3 hours ago, Sweep said:

I think that's reading too much into it.

Banning smoking is of benefit for loads of reasons, not just for the individual, but also for wider society. We only banned drink driving in the 1960's, do you think that was also "the thin end of the wedge" and taking away a freedom?

I think drink driving was different, as it put others at risk. Smoking does affect others (family and NHS), so it’s not cut and dried about personal choice, but to ban it feels authoritarian.

[Casino]

3 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

You’re nearly 60 you won’t need ID. 

Good, id forget it

 

[Nowack]

Watched this last night and it felt very prescient. 

 

 

[Winchester White]

If those cunts sell off compulsory purchased land on the cheap to Tory donors I wouldn't be remotely shocked.

[Spider]

Bloke on the wireless earlier was saying that Sunak left something out about passing this all through Parliament. Need to dig out the details it based on what he was saying Sunak has basically left it so Labour are fucked when they get in.

 

[little whitt]

1 hour ago, Nowack said:

I thought they had a route from four lane ends, along the old train line that went down Derby St.

All Houses on there now

[Winchester White]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

Bloke on the wireless earlier was saying that Sunak left something out about passing this all through Parliament. Need to dig out the details it based on what he was saying Sunak has basically left it so Labour are fucked when they get in.

 

I also heard that he can't actually scrap it off his own back but only caught the end of the discussion.  Also someone saying the new Euston would only have 6 platforms so no chance of it going beyond Brum, again not sure.

Either way, it's a fucking mess and begs the question how long this has been planned for?

[ZiggyStardust]

5 hours ago, Sweep said:

It'll be very difficult to enforce, provided it gets through the vote to bring it in.

Obviously this will eventually reduce the tax take the Government receives from ciggies (although I don't know how that offsets against cost to the NHS etc)

It does seem odd to me that they'll increase the smoking age for cigs, but not for vapes (yet) - why not do them both at the same time? 

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The Conservatives have defended accepting a donation from the chief executive of a company accused of marketing vapes to children.

They accepted a £350,000 donation from Supreme 8 Limited in May, records show.

The boss of Supreme 8 is Sandy Chadha, who is also the chief executive of Supreme PLC, which markets vapes.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66750824

[Spider]

5 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

I also heard that he can't actually scrap it off his own back but only caught the end of the discussion.  Also someone saying the new Euston would only have 6 platforms so no chance of it going beyond Brum, again not sure.

Either way, it's a fucking mess and begs the question how long this has been planned for?

Well he was saying yesterday that a decision hadn’t been made and it was all speculation.

So, unless he was TELLING FIBS, he only decided this morning.

 

[tomski]

3 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66750824

It would be more shocking if they did reject till ha. 
 

Does Mrs Sunak have shares in a vape company?

[Winchester White]

Just now, Spider said:

Well he was saying yesterday that a decision hadn’t been made and it was all speculation.

So, unless he was TELLING FIBS, he only decided this morning.

 

Oh he would never do that. A 40 page report has come out that they clearly hashed together this morning since Rishi's momentous decision. It includes the metrolink extension to Manchester Airport that already exists so maybe they are paying twice for it?

[tomski]

Supposedly rushing through sale of earmarked HS2 land at Crewe at cost to ensure it can’t be re visited. Hahaha

[DirtySanchez]

3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Crossed my mind.

One of those things that will take possibly decades to determine whether it pays for itself.

Still don't see how it's enforceable neither.

It's OK saying use current i.d. but that would require your date of birth and those at the shop to work out whether you're old enough.

It really shouldn't be hard enough to work out 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Crossed my mind.

One of those things that will take possibly decades to determine whether it pays for itself.

Still don't see how it's enforceable neither.

It's OK saying use current i.d. but that would require your date of birth and those at the shop to work out whether you're old enough.

They'd just need to check the year of birth