Shrewsbury Town (H)

[Dr. Feelgood]

5 hours ago, Ani said:

... whilst he is manager will support him and desperate for him to prove me wrong. 

Well I've no intention of getting a banner made or paying for a light aircraft to fly over.

I want Bolton to win every match & if he proves me wrong I'll be genuinely happy & be quick to admit it. I just don't see that happening & every extra game is just kicking the can along.

Edited October 6, 2024 by Dr. Feelgood

[Johnnyrotten]

28 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

I try and be measured and balanced, whether it's game by game or longer-term (maybe don't always manage it) and I'm not Evatt In, Evatt Out or Evatt Shake it all About for that matter (that last one not a good idea perhaps!). 

What I was looking for, over Summer and into first couple of months of season, were signs that the issues that caused us to fall short had been recognised and were being addressed, either through recruitment, change of approach, or both. 

Still early days yes, still a long way to go yes, still loads of time for sure, but all those things considered I'm not convinced. 

I don't think the recruitment in Summer has made us any stronger generally and in areas where we were suspect last season, while the only change in approach felt necessary was a disaster. So, as far as I'm concerned, we're back where we were, with the same good aspects and the same failings, in a Division that is more competitive than it was last season. 

Does that make me more Evatt Out than Evatt In? Maybe, though not at the point of feeling like any buttons need pressing yet. We aren't at that '10 games in' point yet and we could get to 20 and still have plenty of time for a change to have an impact if it was felt necessary. I'd be up for giving it that long. Games upcoming against the likes of Stockport, Blackpool and Wigan could be the acid tests though, strong performances in them may reignite everyone's confidence, limp ones could turn things toxic again. 

Good balanced post.  Just on the giving it 20 games/till we've played those tougher matches you mention, what I don't get is where you would get any evidence that he's the man to lead us into those "battles".  Have we not seen enough evidence in the last couple of years? 

It just seems either very kind or naive or indecisive (with respect) to not have made up our minds yet.  It doesn't mean he's a terrible manager - the 2nd half yesterday was exciting stuff and yes he takes some credit for that - but we all know a 2nd half v Shrewsbury or a win at Crawley is not what the discussion is about.  We weren't good enough last year, against the better sides, and not only have we not improved this year, we seem to have gone backwards in terms of now looking as vulnerable defensively as we have for years.  If we finish 6th this year and have some 4-2 wins and great goals, then under perform in the play offs, do we just start again in August and say "let's see if he's learned, give him 10 games".  When does someone make a decision?

[Hoppy]

I think Evatt is feeling the pressure at the moment and needs to calm down and take stock over the international break there is no doubt he is passionate about the club I would like to see us win every game but that never happens we have to start to play with the passion of the second half more often if we do that we will win more this season than lose I still think top 6 finish and this time a Wembley win in the final!

[Cheese]

2 hours ago, Stig said:

I hope they're not getting you in to help the players' weak mentality 

Don't worry, they're not. Have they been in touch with you?

[TroySwoosh]

30 minutes ago, Kane57 said:

Looking at it simply, Evatt is a prick. We all know he's a prick but whilst we're doing well you can put that to one side. When we're doing poorly him being a prick becomes a problem.

take's one to know one eh? 

[desperado]

29 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Good balanced post.  Just on the giving it 20 games/till we've played those tougher matches you mention, what I don't get is where you would get any evidence that he's the man to lead us into those "battles".  Have we not seen enough evidence in the last couple of years? 

It just seems either very kind or naive or indecisive (with respect) to not have made up our minds yet.  It doesn't mean he's a terrible manager - the 2nd half yesterday was exciting stuff and yes he takes some credit for that - but we all know a 2nd half v Shrewsbury or a win at Crawley is not what the discussion is about.  We weren't good enough last year, against the better sides, and not only have we not improved this year, we seem to have gone backwards in terms of now looking as vulnerable defensively as we have for years.  If we finish 6th this year and have some 4-2 wins and great goals, then under perform in the play offs, do we just start again in August and say "let's see if he's learned, give him 10 games".  When does someone make a decision?

I think it’s a perfectly reasonable argument to say I think we can get results against the better sides in this league.

Who are they?

Well I think we’d all agree Birmingham. That one’s debatable and probably the one I’m most concerned about getting something from. But let’s see in a few weeks. 

Stockport away will be a good indicator, to see if we have improved/are improving.

At the moment the table suggests it’s then Wrexham and Mansfield. Well we looked ok against Wrexham when we were playing the shit system, they didn’t worry me too much on that performance. Nor Mansfield.

The way we’ve played in the last 4 games if we can recreate some of the good play we’ve seen, then against the likes of Burton, Peterborough and Blackpool at home it’s not a stupid or thick thing to say we could pick up points.

If we do pick up points in these games and put a good run together then why can’t that be used as evidence? I don’t get it?

I’m not making the point that that is extremely likely, but I am saying it’s not beyond reasonable and if so would dispel your myth that everyone should have made their mind up by now.

I’d push it even further and say that these are exactly the games where we need to making judgements on this manager and our side.

Edited October 6, 2024 by desperado

[ianofcleveleys]

45 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

It just seems either very kind or naive or indecisive (with respect) to not have made up our minds yet. 

Maybe I'm a bit soft, if I was the owner of a club I might be less patient! Giving it a bit longer is just rooted in there still being plenty of time to turn things round and put a run to play offs together. 

I suppose, after what I've said about nothing being any better / improved, I should go on to say make a change now. I like giving folk every chance though and I'd just like to see if he can crack that nut of us beating a couple of our awkward rivals. 

[Mounts Kipper]

1 hour ago, L/H White said:

No chance. And you know it deep down

I’m reasonably confident we will go up…. Better chance if we don’t change manager mid season, fails this season and he’ll deserve to be sacked. 

[Eddie]

26 minutes ago, desperado said:

I think it’s a perfectly reasonable argument to say I think we can get results against the better sides in this league.

Who are they?

Well I think we’d all agree Birmingham. That one’s debatable and probably the one I’m most concerned about getting something from. But let’s see in a few weeks. 

Stockport away will be a good indicator, to see if we have improved/are improving.

At the moment the table suggests it’s then Wrexham and Mansfield. Well we looked ok against Wrexham when we were playing the shit system, they didn’t worry me too much on that performance. Nor Mansfield.

The way we’ve played in the last 4 games if we can recreate some of the good play we’ve seen, then against the likes of Burton, Peterborough and Blackpool at home it’s not a stupid or thick thing to say we could pick up points.

If we do pick up points in these games and put a good run together then why can’t that be used as evidence? I don’t get it?

I’m not making the point that that is extremely likely, but I am saying it’s not beyond reasonable and if so would dispel your myth that everyone should have made their mind up by now.

I’d push it even further and say that these are exactly the games where we need to making judgements on this manager and our side.

We’ve been consistently shite in any “big games” throughout his reign - other than the very odd anomaly. This season, those big games will be Brum, Huddersfield, Rotherham, Wigan, Wrexham, Stockport, Blackpool and maybe Barnsley - we’ve played 2 of them, both at home and have 1 point to show from them.

The past is a good indicator for the future, unless there is a propensity to change and we know there isn’t much of that (don’t throw a suicidal change to 2 in midfield back, it’s the overall stubbornness).

The run coming up of Birmingham, Posh, Stockport, Rotherham and Blackpool will likely prove that nothing has changed and will be the end of his tenure in my opinion. I’d love to be proved wrong but to suggest that it’s perfectly likely to happen is nothing other than blind faith and hope.

[Mounts Kipper]

4 minutes ago, Eddie said:

We’ve been consistently shite in any “big games” throughout his reign - other than the very odd anomaly. This season, those big games will be Brum, Huddersfield, Rotherham, Wigan, Wrexham, Stockport, Blackpool and maybe Barnsley - we’ve played 2 of them, both at home and have 1 point to show from them.

The past is a good indicator for the future, unless there is a propensity to change and we know there isn’t much of that (don’t throw a suicidal change to 2 in midfield back, it’s the overall stubbornness).

The run coming up of Birmingham, Posh, Stockport, Rotherham and Blackpool will likely prove that nothing has changed and will be the end of his tenure in my opinion. I’d love to be proved wrong but to suggest that it’s perfectly likely to happen is nothing other than blind faith and hope.

We’ve changed formation since Huddersfield & Wrexham game, even with the system that didn’t work we were very unlucky not to take 3 points against Wrexham. Let’s see where we are after the games you’ve highlighted, if we do get schooled then his position has to come into question. Lot of needless negativity on here. 

[Ani]

1 hour ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Well, in a word "yes".

And of course you would think that, people who support him would say he was part of a recruitment team. Not saying either is right or wrong btw. Plus there numerous other factors like deals falling through late in the process, which is the only explanation of being one short in the squad, there was a rumour of an out of contract player coming but that fell through. 

The one area he has most influence and personal control is the way we play and the ridiculous start of the season formation which has lumped extra pressure on every game. Even though we have a coaching team the manager clearly drove the new approach. In turn that does seem to have influenced recruitment. 
 

[Eddie]

12 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

We’ve changed formation since Huddersfield & Wrexham game, even with the system that didn’t work we were very unlucky not to take 3 points against Wrexham. Let’s see where we are after the games you’ve highlighted, if we do get schooled then his position has to come into question. Lot of needless negativity on here. 

Negativity might be true - but needless is subjective and I’d say that where we find ourselves at the moment means for most it isn’t needless.

As I’m a sad bastard and had 15 minutes on my hands, I’ve just ran through what I consider to be the “big games” in each of Evatt’s seasons and the results we got in them. It really is a pretty stark picture and shows just how much has to change this season considering the volume of those type of games that we’ve got this season:

20/21

Cheltenham

Cambridge

Morecambe 

Tranmere

12 points from 8 games but lost both to Tranmere. (1.5 ppg)

 

21/22

Wigan

Rotherham

Sheff Weds

Sunderland

Pompey

6 points from 10 games (0.6 ppg)

 

22/23

Plymouth

Ipswich

Sheff weds

Barnsley x4 (incl. play offs)

Derby

Pompey

10 points from 14 games (0.7 ppg)

 

23/24

Pompey

Derby

Barnsley x4 (incl. play offs)

Blackpool

Wigan

Oxford play off final

12 points from 12 games and then lost the biggest one of the lot (1 ppg)

 

24/24

1 point from 2 games (0.5 ppg)

 

IF we go up this season, and you’re right that of course there is a chance that we can, then we have to change something that has been the same in each one of his 4 seasons. 14-16 of our games this season will be ‘big games’ and we average 0.8 points per game in L1 when we play these type of games. If we carry on our usual record then we pick up 13 points in those 16 games and assuming we need 85 points to get into automatics we would need 2.7 points per game in the other 30 games. 

I don’t think he is mentally strong enough to handle the big occasion, and this season more than any of his others before it will be key.

[Ani]

37 minutes ago, Eddie said:

We’ve been consistently shite in any “big games” throughout his reign - other than the very odd anomaly. This season, those big games will be Brum, Huddersfield, Rotherham, Wigan, Wrexham, Stockport, Blackpool and maybe Barnsley - we’ve played 2 of them, both at home and have 1 point to show from them.

The past is a good indicator for the future, unless there is a propensity to change and we know there isn’t much of that (don’t throw a suicidal change to 2 in midfield back, it’s the overall stubbornness).

The run coming up of Birmingham, Posh, Stockport, Rotherham and Blackpool will likely prove that nothing has changed and will be the end of his tenure in my opinion. I’d love to be proved wrong but to suggest that it’s perfectly likely to happen is nothing other than blind faith and hope.

That run of five games seems a reasonable basis for assessing how we are like to do in the tougher games.  So you need 2 points per game for promotion so 10 points would be excellent. 7 or 8 acceptable. 6 disappointing and less than that a failure. 
 

One of the reasons yesterday was a kick in the teeth was win that and the Burton game the 2 PPG target was back on. 

[deeane Koontz]

Evatt has a penchant for confronting folk after the final whistle or saying silly shite when it's not gone his way.  He needs to wind his neck in.  it's not going to solve owt it just makes him look like a whopper.

[Dr. Feelgood]

33 minutes ago, Ani said:

And of course you would think that

 

there numerous other factors like deals falling through late in the process.

Well, him going into hiding for a month after Oxford won't have helped.

[Johnnyrotten]

1 hour ago, desperado said:

I think it’s a perfectly reasonable argument to say I think we can get results against the better sides in this league.

Who are they?

Well I think we’d all agree Birmingham. That one’s debatable and probably the one I’m most concerned about getting something from. But let’s see in a few weeks. 

Stockport away will be a good indicator, to see if we have improved/are improving.

At the moment the table suggests it’s then Wrexham and Mansfield. Well we looked ok against Wrexham when we were playing the shit system, they didn’t worry me too much on that performance. Nor Mansfield.

The way we’ve played in the last 4 games if we can recreate some of the good play we’ve seen, then against the likes of Burton, Peterborough and Blackpool at home it’s not a stupid or thick thing to say we could pick up points.

If we do pick up points in these games and put a good run together then why can’t that be used as evidence? I don’t get it?

I’m not making the point that that is extremely likely, but I am saying it’s not beyond reasonable and if so would dispel your myth that everyone should have made their mind up by now.

I’d push it even further and say that these are exactly the games where we need to making judgements on this manager and our side.

Firstly to be clear, if we get to Christmas and we've won a majority of those games, I'll be absolutely delighted to get behind IE again. And I'd also say Birmingham is a free hit, we could be doing everything perfectly and still lose there, I won't be using a (narrowish) defeat as evidence against him, but if we win or even deservedly draw its a massive plus for him.  

But I don't think its a unreasonable to be concerned about our ability to go to Stockport, Wrexham, Wigan, Blackpool, Rotherham, Huddersfield and get our fair share of results.  Otherwise we are ignoring what's gone before.  We wouldn't employ our next manager without taking into account their track record, we'd get someone that has shown he has what it takes (unless its a McKenna/Mousinho type punt on potential).   

If we do win big games (and most of the small games) - great - but its based on hope rather than expectation/confidence.  Its a gamble because once those are out of the way it could be too late to even aim for 6th place.

On dispelling the myth, its not a myth, its just the hard facts.  Bottom line is you and a few others think he deserves another chance, fine - just opinions and I hope I'm wrong.  Others think he's had enough chances, we don't have to agree.  Let's see what happens next couple of months and hope for an upturn.

[Greg_BWFC]

36 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Negativity might be true - but needless is subjective and I’d say that where we find ourselves at the moment means for most it isn’t needless.

As I’m a sad bastard and had 15 minutes on my hands, I’ve just ran through what I consider to be the “big games” in each of Evatt’s seasons and the results we got in them. It really is a pretty stark picture and shows just how much has to change this season considering the volume of those type of games that we’ve got this season:

 

20/21

Cheltenham

Cambridge

Morecambe 

Tranmere

12 points from 8 games but lost both to Tranmere. (1.5 ppg)

 

21/22

Wigan

Rotherham

Sheff Weds

Sunderland

Pompey

6 points from 10 games (0.6 ppg)

 

22/23

Plymouth

Ipswich

Sheff weds

Barnsley x4 (incl. play offs)

Derby

Pompey

10 points from 14 games (0.7 ppg)

 

23/24

Pompey

Derby

Barnsley x4 (incl. play offs)

Blackpool

Wigan

Oxford play off final

12 points from 12 games and then lost the biggest one of the lot (1 ppg)

 

24/24

1 point from 2 games (0.5 ppg)

 

IF we go up this season, and you’re right that of course there is a chance that we can, then we have to change something that has been the same in each one of his 4 seasons. 14-16 of our games this season will be ‘big games’ and we average 0.8 points per game in L1 when we play these type of games. If we carry on our usual record then we pick up 13 points in those 16 games and assuming we need 85 points to get into automatics we would need 2.7 points per game in the other 30 games. 

I don’t think he is mentally strong enough to handle the big occasion, and this season more than any of his others before it will be key.

This is what makes games like yesterday must wins.

We are capable of garnering enough points even if we continue our mediocre return in the "big games".

But it puts huge pressure on everyone (probably contributed to his reaction at the final whistle maybe?).

Think back to last season.

As you point out not a great return against the better teams, but dropping points at home to the likes of Carlisle and Shrewsbury led to our downfall.

It's doable but we have very little room for any more cock ups against the so called lesser teams.

[ianofcleveleys]

I'm not sure what I'm feeling and articulating is negativity, or that it's unfounded. What I do still have, after yesterday in particular, are doubts.

I'd be happy to see Evatt, his management team and the players dispel them and us push on into and stay in the upper reaches for the rest of the season. 

Days like yesterday don't help though. After three good steps forward, starting fast, scoring first, working hard to seal the wins, a big step backwards against dreadful opponents we should have put away without any trouble. 

I wanted to see that last season's drawbacks had been acknowledged, faced up to and banished to history. The formation change could fairly be argued to have been a spanner in the works, but yesterday we were back to our original shape and still threw in the sort of 'that's not us', 'we didn't expect that' stinker we've seen all too often

[desperado]

59 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Firstly to be clear, if we get to Christmas and we've won a majority of those games, I'll be absolutely delighted to get behind IE again. And I'd also say Birmingham is a free hit, we could be doing everything perfectly and still lose there, I won't be using a (narrowish) defeat as evidence against him, but if we win or even deservedly draw its a massive plus for him.  

But I don't think its a unreasonable to be concerned about our ability to go to Stockport, Wrexham, Wigan, Blackpool, Rotherham, Huddersfield and get our fair share of results.  Otherwise we are ignoring what's gone before.  We wouldn't employ our next manager without taking into account their track record, we'd get someone that has shown he has what it takes (unless its a McKenna/Mousinho type punt on potential).   

If we do win big games (and most of the small games) - great - but its based on hope rather than expectation/confidence.  Its a gamble because once those are out of the way it could be too late to even aim for 6th place.

On dispelling the myth, its not a myth, its just the hard facts.  Bottom line is you and a few others think he deserves another chance, fine - just opinions and I hope I'm wrong.  Others think he's had enough chances, we don't have to agree.  Let's see what happens next couple of months and hope for an upturn.

“It just seems either very kind or naive or indecisive (with respect) to not have made up our minds yet.”

This was the bit I was taking issue with. As if there’s some kind of intelligence issue associated with seeing how these next key games pan out.

There were more than 50% after Exeter who wanted 5/10 games to make our minds up.

I suspect me with many others wobbled after Huddersfield, and I have been impressed with our response since then.

I still don’t get why seeing how these next batch of games play out, (which have a mixture of top sides, local sides, tricky homes/aways,) isn’t a sensible, reasonable and acceptable point of view and is in complete contrast to your view of folk with this opinion being “naive”

[desperado]

2 hours ago, Eddie said:

to suggest that it’s perfectly likely to happen is nothing other than blind faith and hope.

I didn’t say that.

I actually went out of my way to say “I’m not making the point that that is extremely likely, but I am saying it’s not beyond reasonable”

[Eddie]

2 minutes ago, desperado said:

I didn’t say that.

I actually went out of my way to say “I’m not making the point that that is extremely likely, but I am saying it’s not beyond reasonable”

It’s a very fair point, and my wording wasn’t great. I suppose I’d still say that that record suggests it is beyond reasonable though. Beyond possible, no, of course we could do it, beyond reasonable, yes for me it is.

Like I said earlier, big games have proven to be his nemesis and this year there are more than ever.

[desperado]

4 minutes ago, Eddie said:

It’s a very fair point, and my wording wasn’t great. I suppose I’d still say that that record suggests it is beyond reasonable though. Beyond possible, no, of course we could do it, beyond reasonable, yes for me it is.

Like I said earlier, big games have proven to be his nemesis and this year there are more than ever.

Fair enough.

But it fits with the narrative of the 5/10 games. If he messes up these big games then I will agree with you.

I still think there’s evidence to cling to that we can believe it can be done.

And I suspect I won’t be on my own. Come Birmingham and Stockport there won’t be many stood there cheering us on at kick-off thinking “we’ve lost this already we don’t win big games” Most of those will be on their Firesticks, poised over their keyboards waiting to go on their socials at the first mistake. 

I’ll be there thinking we can win because; 

- we are playing a system now which suits us better

- We have 4 bang in form strikers who can all score goals

- We have scored lots of goals in the last 5 games 

- We’ve got players who are up to speed and contributing (Schon)

- We’ve got good quality back-up in a variety of positions 

- We’ve a captain who is performing consistently well and is a good young leader. 

- There’s a few players who must be top of the tree in their positions in L1 at the moment. There won’t be too many ahead of Dempsey, Johnstone, Charles, Baxter and even the crap Santos  

- And believe it or not, another controversial one for some to accept, the players are playing for their manager at the moment.

None of that makes it extremely likely we are going to win anything, but I’ll argue with anyone that it’s not reasonable evidence to suggest there’s a chance. 

[Mounts Kipper]

10 minutes ago, desperado said:

Fair enough.

But it fits with the narrative of the 5/10 games. If he messes up these big games then I will agree with you.

I still think there’s evidence to cling to that we can believe it can be done.

And I suspect I won’t be on my own. Come Birmingham and Stockport there won’t be many stood there cheering us on at kick-off thinking “we’ve lost this already we don’t win big games” Most of those will be on their Firesticks, poised over their keyboards waiting to go on their socials at the first mistake. 

I’ll be there thinking we can win because; 

- we are playing a system now which suits us better

- We have 4 bang in form strikers who can all score goals

- We have scored lots of goals in the last 5 games 

- We’ve got players who are up to speed and contributing (Schon)

- We’ve got good quality back-up in a variety of positions 

- We’ve a captain who is performing consistently well and is a good young leader. 

- There’s a few players who must be top of the tree in their positions in L1 at the moment. There won’t be too many ahead of Dempsey, Johnstone, Charles, Baxter and even the crap Santos  

- And believe it or not, another controversial one for some to accept, the players are playing for their manager at the moment.

None of that makes it extremely likely we are going to win anything, but I’ll argue with anyone that it’s not reasonable evidence to suggest there’s a chance. 

Great post!! Without a doubt we’ve one of the better squads in the league, better than last season’s squad and a manager who’s took us to the brink off promotion twice and with weaker squads, it’s not unreasonable to think he can complete the job with a better squad. 

[Eddie]

23 minutes ago, desperado said:

Fair enough.

But it fits with the narrative of the 5/10 games. If he messes up these big games then I will agree with you.

I still think there’s evidence to cling to that we can believe it can be done.

And I suspect I won’t be on my own. Come Birmingham and Stockport there won’t be many stood there cheering us on at kick-off thinking “we’ve lost this already we don’t win big games” Most of those will be on their Firesticks, poised over their keyboards waiting to go on their socials at the first mistake. 

I’ll be there thinking we can win because; 

- we are playing a system now which suits us better

- We have 4 bang in form strikers who can all score goals

- We have scored lots of goals in the last 5 games 

- We’ve got players who are up to speed and contributing (Schon)

- We’ve got good quality back-up in a variety of positions 

- We’ve a captain who is performing consistently well and is a good young leader. 

- There’s a few players who must be top of the tree in their positions in L1 at the moment. There won’t be too many ahead of Dempsey, Johnstone, Charles, Baxter and even the crap Santos  

- And believe it or not, another controversial one for some to accept, the players are playing for their manager at the moment.

None of that makes it extremely likely we are going to win anything, but I’ll argue with anyone that it’s not reasonable evidence to suggest there’s a chance. 

Can’t disagree with any of it mate, and I’ll be in the stands at Birmingham full of hope that for those very reasons we will come away with a point at a minimum (they’re also not exactly City!).

After all that I’ve said, I don’t see much sense in potting him now even though that leaves me slightly contradictory because I also don’t think he’s likely to secure more than 5 points from those games (which will leave us quite a way behind the top 2). I just can’t see that anything has fundamentally changed which will alter the overall outcome - you could have made a list just like yours before we went and lost to Wigan and Blackpool away in a week last year, there was just an inevitability.

Anyway, I really really hope I’m wrong, and this wasn’t meant to be a flat out “he has to go” type response, more just a rationale reasoning using some stats as to why I think we’re staring down the barrel of another failed season.

[desperado]

7 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Can’t disagree with any of it mate, and I’ll be in the stands at Birmingham full of hope that for those very reasons we will come away with a point at a minimum (they’re also not exactly City!).

After all that I’ve said, I don’t see much sense in potting him now even though that leaves me slightly contradictory because I also don’t think he’s likely to secure more than 5 points from those games (which will leave us quite a way behind the top 2). I just can’t see that anything has fundamentally changed which will alter the overall outcome - you could have made a list just like yours before we went and lost to Wigan and Blackpool away in a week last year, there was just an inevitability.

Anyway, I really really hope I’m wrong, and this wasn’t meant to be a flat out “he has to go” type response, more just a rationale reasoning using some stats as to why I think we’re staring down the barrel of another failed season.

Your posts make a lot of sense and in all honesty mate, I don’t think we are too far away on our thoughts as to our current situation. 👍

I like to think my outlook offers a bit of reason to the hope and faith.