Big one this  

First home game since the Doom 

5-0  is worth a £1

Agreed on the current split of fans. We win that game yesterday with 4 on the bounce it’s  up at 75/25 or above, put your head into the face of an opposition player when you should be shaking hands and walking down the the tunnel you’re back where you are at 50/50. Lose that 0-2 it’s 25/75 or lower.

It’s on a knife edge for him currently and why he shouldn’t be doing additional stupid shit under the pressure he’s in. 

The bottom line chaps is that ultimately, we all know how this ends. A leopard doesn’t change its spots and all that and to think otherwise is just naivety. 

Nothing has changed over the last couple of results, we’ve played against very poor opposition and taken points we’d fully expect to take. The same frailties are still there in abundance and if you think they are not you’re just kidding yourself. 

Sharon’s loyalty is commendable but at the same time very naive. She knows It’s coming but she has chosen to look the other way. 

I dread to think what another 45 minutes like yesterday would result in at St. Andrew’s in a couple of weeks time in a game for me that arguably at the beginning of the season you’d be hoping for a win and at least a point 30 million or otherwise. This game represented an opportunity to show that we were finally ready to push on this season. Unfortunately, you can see nothing but an absolute pasting on the cards and that isn’t good enough for me. It’s simply too far away from where it should be at this stage and for that reason it has to be Evatt out.
 

6 minutes ago, masi 51 said:

The bloke is out of his league and like the Sarcevics, Doyles etc the club have outgrown him.

I have slated him for his signings at best mediocre for the money he has dished out. 

We have  half a dozen injured and out at any one time because going back to his signings they seem to arrive here injured.

He sets the team up one way and cannot adapt or change midgame. Yesterday being a case in point. We got the game back to 2-2 and it was attack against defence yet he kept three centre backs on marking one player. He could have gone 4/3/3  Put both Collins or McAtee on kept Charles on and took  Toal off along with Vic who offers very little.

The corners are nothing but a joke  leave Two forwards one on either line and that will make the opposition leave a minimum 3 back.

Mark your players not the zonal system that does not work

And like others have stated stop this taking players off at certain times to be replaced by a clone.........Some players have bad games it is natural or the game drifts them by. Can he not see that and adapt to it.

 

He like Doyle and Sarcevic were right for us 4 years ago....Today it is time he joined the other two

He did change the game at half time though as evidenced by the 2nd half performance.

Whilst I do agree the substitutes were not great, taking Toal off for an attacker would be madness, and if we got caught on a break he would be heavily criticised.

We pushed forwards with Schon and DC supporting the attack, maybe DC could have been subbed for Collins, although think he could play in Sheehans more attacking role. Losing Tutu has taken out an option for the right side, but subbing one of the recognised CBs would have been crazy, and would need to sacrifice on of the WB to drop back and cover.

Positives. We brought some great energy to the game second half, particularly Dempsey who was mom.

Negatives. We look so vulnerable from set pieces. We are not getting near the play offs until that is sorted. Playing out from the back was painful in the first half and it makes us so disjointed when the movement and energy is not there. 

Evatt should not be on the pitch at the end. He should shake hands with their manager and then get down the tunnel. He is not helping himself getting involved like that.

21 minutes ago, CambridgeBWFC said:

As is any fight on the pitch between players, we wouldn't have had a team after the battle of burden if that was the case. 

That is players playing on a pitch.....i get that

This is a Manager after the game has finished with a player

I wouldn’t be surprised if he calls it a day before we play burton 

15 minutes ago, CambridgeBWFC said:

He did change the game at half time though as evidenced by the 2nd half performance.

Whilst I do agree the substitutes were not great, taking Toal off for an attacker would be madness, and if we got caught on a break he would be heavily criticised.

We pushed forwards with Schon and DC supporting the attack, maybe DC could have been subbed for Collins, although think he could play in Sheehans more attacking role. Losing Tutu has taken out an option for the right side, but subbing one of the recognised CBs would have been crazy, and would need to sacrifice on of the WB to drop back and cover.

No he did not. We just played a rank bad team in Shrewsbury as we have in Crawley and Northampton. Taking Toal off would not be madness as we would have gone 4/3/3........They offered nothing as a attacking force until injury time

How do you think teams have managed for 150 years....Yes playing 4 at the back. We could have left Charles on and McAtee at the side of him and put Collins wide to keep that stability

4 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if he calls it a day before we play burton 

Equally, I wouldn’t be surprised if we finish the season mid table & he’s given another chance next season.

4 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if he calls it a day before we play burton 

Why? 

10 from 12 and general improvement 

If it wasn't calling it a day after Huddersfield he's definitely not now 

3 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if he calls it a day before we play burton 

Schlongont'internetgate, gamblinggate now we've got stickthenutongate

A gate too far?

 

 

32 minutes ago, CambridgeBWFC said:

As is any fight on the pitch between players, we wouldn't have had a team after the battle of burden if that was the case. 

Aye

 To be fair, even some of the best managers out there have had moments of madness. If we were sitting pretty in the top two, we’d be more sympathetic. But given the pressure he’s under, it’s an idiotic thing to do & only highlights further he’s not up to the job. 

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

Why? 

10 from 12 and general improvement 

If it wasn't calling it a day after Huddersfield he's definitely not now 

No improvement.........He has gone from the madness of 2 in midfield to back how we played last season......We will win games playing like this against poor teams

4 minutes ago, Zico said:

Why? 

10 from 12 and general improvement 

If it wasn't calling it a day after Huddersfield he's definitely not now 

He’s going nowhere 

The support he was given from the board will have been at least until Christmas to improve. If the playoffs is a possibility by then, he’ll still be in the job I reckon.

10 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

You just don't understand

Don't understand what? I understand there's a guy with 10 yards of space when we have everyone back. I don't care how that happened. Whether they did some of basketball type pick and roll block or the guy just had loads of space with no one marking him. It shouldn't be happening period. They aren't a schoolboy team.

Also worth noting the guy who scored the second goal was also free on the edge of the box for this corner. Peter Atherton came out after the game and said they made the players aware of the tactic, which means the players have basically just ignored the advice. 

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

Why? 

10 from 12 and general improvement 

If it wasn't calling it a day after Huddersfield he's definitely not now 

He looks finished in his body language and his antics at the end are those of desperation, yes recent form has been better but it’s clearly obvious from yesterday that certain things aren’t being learnt/or going to change 

1 minute ago, radcliffe white said:

He looks finished in his body language and his antics at the end are those of desperation, yes recent form has been better but it’s clearly obvious from yesterday that certain things aren’t being learnt/or going to change 

Yep. The first half yesterday was like Oxford except against a poorer team

4 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Aye

 To be fair, even some of the best managers out there have had moments of madness. If we were sitting pretty in the top two, we’d be more sympathetic. But given the pressure he’s under, it’s an idiotic thing to do & only highlights further he’s not up to the job. 

If we were sitting pretty in the top two, not only would there be fewer critical voices, there'd also be a good number offering congratulations on him not giving an inch etc.

That's just football, and the mood of the fans.

He simply shouldn't have done it, and he will be sanctioned heavily by the FA. Hopefully the club will also sanction him in some way too.

He's going to have some difficulties come the next training session- embarrassment etc- but he'll have to overcome it.

No point constantly deliberating the point though, as it's a fairly cut and dried incident, and he will have to take his medicine.

 

To put into perspective people thought giving Rioch a go after punching his own player and kicking him in the head. We can’t take emotions out of the game and we don’t know what the Shrewsbury player said to him . Also if Ricos header goes in we wouldn’t be talking about any of this.

 

If the ball had gone to Toal for the header he may have scored but Santos he was always going to miss not his game unfortunately. 

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

If we were sitting pretty in the top two, not only would there be fewer critical voices, there'd also be a good number offering congratulations on him not giving an inch etc.

That's just football, and the mood of the fans.

He simply shouldn't have done it, and he will be sanctioned heavily by the FA. Hopefully the club will also sanction him in some way too.

He's going to have some difficulties come the next training session- embarrassment etc- but he'll have to overcome it.

No point constantly deliberating the point though, as it's a fairly cut and dried incident, and he will have to take his medicine.

Will the players no think we have a manager who will stand up and be counted. 

50 minutes ago, masi 51 said:

We got the game back to 2-2 and it was attack against defence yet he kept three centre backs on marking one player. He could have gone 4/3/3  Put both Collins or McAtee on kept Charles on and took  Toal off along with Vic who offers very little.

And if he did and we conceded he'd have been slagged off for that.

I'm on the fence at the moment regarding Evatt, but agree that outside of football his antics yesterday would receive severe censure.

I'm disappointed with yesterday but a point was rescued from 2 goals down to leave us on 10 points from 4 games. 3 wins out of 4 for the rest of the season gets the job done with breathing space.

Frustrating though.

On the incident with Evatt he could end up with more than 3 games after the EFL have looked at it .

Both goals came from leaving a player totally unmarked. Shocking defending 

Pressure is on now to beat Burton in our next game - no gifts and a comfortable win and we are back on track on moving up the league.

8 minutes ago, perth_white said:

And if he did and we conceded he'd have been slagged off for that.

I'm on the fence at the moment regarding Evatt, but agree that outside of football his antics yesterday would receive severe censure.

I'm disappointed with yesterday but a point was rescued from 2 goals down to leave us on 10 points from 4 games. 3 wins out of 4 for the rest of the season gets the job done with breathing space.

Frustrating though.

At times you/he has to be brave and mix things up............Shrewsbury offered nothing going forward the second half

We got back in the game basically because they are poor and the only tactic they had second half was to stop and spoil the game. Shipley who scored the second goal.  Was only their threat. He threw himself to the ground one time too many after about 60mins and pulled something he went off and so did any idea Shrewsbury had of trying to attack

Edited October 6, 20241 yr by masi 51