Fleetwood Town (H) - EFL Trophy

[burnden]

5 hours ago, desperado said:

I was looking for that. Couldn’t find it.

We’re at home aren’t we? So as an away ST, you’ll be happy with that! 

1st plays 2nd in group I think. So it’s one of these:

Tranmere

Port Vale

Wigan

Crewe

Huddersfield 

Bradford

Lincoln

 

We could end up playing Wigan twice in a week .

[Traf]

1 hour ago, burnden said:

We could end up getting battered by Wigan twice in a week .

 

[Stig]

One thing I was surprised about last night was only 1 sub made when we're supposed to be protecting players making injury comebacks or giving a rest to players overplaying.

Honestly what is the point of youngsters on the bench if Evatt won't play them?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

32 minutes ago, Stig said:

One thing I was surprised about last night was only 1 sub made when we're supposed to be protecting players making injury comebacks or giving a rest to players overplaying.

Honestly what is the point of youngsters on the bench if Evatt won't play them?

It must be a bit soul destroying. 

As you say, don't put them on if they're not deemed good enough. 

 

[only1swanny]

Feel we need to have a three man midfield with 2 uptop..

for me atm would be

sheehan matetee and sharples in midfield 

Collins mcatee uptop. 

charles and victor to swap at 60 mins, 

lolos and arfield to swap, 

 

we're not commanding that midfield and although many people mentioned it, we didn't get a midfield general, 

One thing sharples offers os a fair motor, very much box to box, and not afraid to close down players, he did OK, and I would love evatt to give him a chance, but know he wouldn't. 

[desperado]

16 minutes ago, Stig said:

One thing I was surprised about last night was only 1 sub made when we're supposed to be protecting players making injury comebacks or giving a rest to players overplaying.

Honestly what is the point of youngsters on the bench if Evatt won't play them?

Sounds like I’m in Evatt defence mode with my last few posts, which I suppose I am in a way.

But not to be misinterpreted as me not acknowledging his increasing deficiencies and many things he’s getting wrong at the moment.

But I don’t think every single thing he’s done or is doing is wrong.

And this might be one of those that falls into this category.

He had to try and get some kind of short-term positivity from last night which could translate into what happens at Blackpool.

- a win 

- Sharples-Ahmed (could be a good bench option)

- 2 good goals for Collins

- Biggest one for me getting those minutes into Jones’ legs (he’s not injured is he?) preparing him for the Blackpool game

Because of his current status and issues it’s easy to slate every decision he’s ever made, is making and will make in the future. Let’s have a bit of balance and not become like the plant pots on Twatter and Facebook.

[only1swanny]

32 minutes ago, desperado said:

Sounds like I’m in Evatt defence mode with my last few posts, which I suppose I am in a way.

But not to be misinterpreted as me not acknowledging his increasing deficiencies and many things he’s getting wrong at the moment.

But I don’t think every single thing he’s done or is doing is wrong.

And this might be one of those that falls into this category.

He had to try and get some kind of short-term positivity from last night which could translate into what happens at Blackpool.

- a win 

- Sharples-Ahmed (could be a good bench option)

- 2 good goals for Collins

- Biggest one for me getting those minutes into Jones’ legs (he’s not injured is he?) preparing him for the Blackpool game

Because of his current status and issues it’s easy to slate every decision he’s ever made, is making and will make in the future. Let’s have a bit of balance and not become like the plant pots on Twatter and Facebook.

Think ot made a statement to players that they aren't all needed,  

[Dr. Feelgood]

Despite the valid 'protection from injury point I'm actually pleased not to see the automaton substitutions he seems committed to.

But there were players who could have gained from time. Plus I'd love to know what Matheson has done to him.

[Zico]

Only thing that surprised me was JDC not getting a game off 

Definitely deserves one

[Stig]

21 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Despite the valid 'protection from injury point I'm actually pleased not to see the automaton substitutions he seems committed to.

But there were players who could have gained from time. Plus I'd love to know what Matheson has done to him.

Oh yeah I get that. But I think we should be doing it the other way round: meaningless cup games = auto subs to get minutes in legs, league games = subs to fit match situation 

[Johnnyrotten]

21 hours ago, ianofcleveleys said:

Matete was one that hooked me in a bit, couldn't see anything much in him or what he really was till Posh game, where he did play really well. Was alright at Stevenage but gone off again since. Was hoping he might be a game changing DM, or maybe box to box midfielder for us but not convincing at either so far. 

I'm in the Matete is decent camp.  Firstly I've never taken any notice of the U21s cup unless its at Wembley and I'm not going to start now, so I can't comment on last night other than I saw the goals.  The players don't take these games seriously (look at the goal celebrations) so I'm not sure why some fans do.

But even accepting his performances have dipped (along with everyone else last 3 games), I could see from day one he can do things that other players can't do.  Same with Collins and Santos - they have more raw ability than most in their position.  That doesn't mean they always play well, they all make mistakes and can look poor at times.  But Matete has strength, composure, he can take the ball surrounded by 2 men and come out with the ball, he can beat a man and drive forward, he wins tackles cleanly unlike for eg Tomo and he doesn't have a rush of blood thinking he can try 40 yard glory passes that invariably don't work, he retains possession well (normally).  Just my take on it, we are even flimsier when he doesn't play.

Edited November 13, 2024 by Johnnyrotten

[ianofcleveleys]

1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said:

But Matete has strength, composure, he can take the ball surrounded by 2 men and come out with the ball, he can beat a man and drive forward, he wins tackles cleanly unlike for eg Tomo and he doesn't have a rush of blood thinking he can try 40 yard glory passes that invariably don't work, he retains possession well (normally).  Just my take on it, we are even flimsier when he doesn't play.

Fair enough, certainly can't disagree that we'd be even weaker without him, I might be being a bit harsh on him and hopefully he'll go on to show me so

[Arrested development]

4 hours ago, only1swanny said:

Feel we need to have a three man midfield with 2 uptop..

for me atm would be

sheehan matetee and sharples in midfield 

Collins mcatee uptop. 

charles and victor to swap at 60 mins, 

lolos and arfield to swap, 

 

we're not commanding that midfield and although many people mentioned it, we didn't get a midfield general, 

One thing sharples offers os a fair motor, very much box to box, and not afraid to close down players, he did OK, and I would love evatt to give him a chance, but know he wouldn't. 

You've seen sharples Ahmed play one game and you want him starting in the first team?? 

Need to see more than one game against a league two team. Personally thought he was just average. 

[Stig]

20 minutes ago, Arrested development said:

You've seen sharples Ahmed play one game and you want him starting in the first team?? 

Need to see more than one game against a league two team. Personally thought he was just average. 

If you want 3 in midfield the question is Sharples or Arfield?

[Big E]

4 hours ago, desperado said:

Sounds like I’m in Evatt defence mode with my last few posts, which I suppose I am in a way.

But not to be misinterpreted as me not acknowledging his increasing deficiencies and many things he’s getting wrong at the moment.

But I don’t think every single thing he’s done or is doing is wrong.

And this might be one of those that falls into this category.

He had to try and get some kind of short-term positivity from last night which could translate into what happens at Blackpool.

- a win 

- Sharples-Ahmed (could be a good bench option)

- 2 good goals for Collins

- Biggest one for me getting those minutes into Jones’ legs (he’s not injured is he?) preparing him for the Blackpool game

Because of his current status and issues it’s easy to slate every decision he’s ever made, is making and will make in the future. Let’s have a bit of balance and not become like the plant pots on Twatter and Facebook.

He’s not gonna shag you mate 😁😁😁😁

 

well he might you are handsome 😁

[Arrested development]

31 minutes ago, Stig said:

If you want 3 in midfield the question is Sharples or Arfield?

Dempsey, Sheehan, Thomasson, Matete , Lolos.......plenty of options without even looking at them two. 

[FrancisFogarty]

14 hours ago, desperado said:

I was looking for that. Couldn’t find it.

We’re at home aren’t we? So as an away ST, you’ll be happy with that! 

1st plays 2nd in group I think. So it’s one of these:

Tranmere

Port Vale

Wigan

Crewe

Huddersfield 

Bradford

Lincoln

 

We’ll shit  ‘em all.

[Stig]

8 hours ago, Arrested development said:

Dempsey, Sheehan, Thomasson, Matete , Lolos.......plenty of options without even looking at them two. 

Dempsey and Thomason are injured. And Lolos falls into the McAtee bracket of not being a midfielder 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Dempsey may be back by then- no idea what his expected return is. 

[Pablo]

19 hours ago, burnden said:

🤷‍♂️   Standard.

Tut, atleast call me a scouse cunt or somethig !?!

Mad how our teams being crap can affect everything, kill us all!!

[Ani]

11 hours ago, Arrested development said:

You've seen sharples Ahmed play one game and you want him starting in the first team?? 

Need to see more than one game against a league two team. Personally thought he was just average. 

He was steady and a great cross for the goal, a very solid debut. Not really in the game second half. The way some people have reacted would have thought he is the next Messi. 

[Dr. Feelgood]

13 minutes ago, Pablo said:

Tut, atleast call me a scouse cunt or somethig !?!

Mad how our teams being crap can affect everything, kill us all!!

Scouse cunt.

[Traf]

50 minutes ago, Ani said:

He was steady and a great cross for the goal, a very solid debut. Not really in the game second half. The way some people have reacted would have thought he is the next Messi. 

Did he not lose his man for their goal?

[RUREADY2ROLL]

11 hours ago, Arrested development said:

Dempsey, Sheehan, Thomasson, Matete , Lolos.......plenty of options without even looking at them two. 

Matete and Lolos are not good enough (poor signings) and Dempsey and Thomason are both injured 

plus Collins and McAtee are not good enough in midfield - not sure where McAtee should be playing

Edited November 14, 2024 by RUREADY2ROLL

[tomski]

10 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said:

Matete and Lolos are not good enough (poor signings) and Dempsey and Thomason are both injured 

plus Collins and McAtee are not good enough in midfield - not sure where McAtee should be playing

In his position up front. Not being flippant it’s more a dig at current line ups. Everyone should play in their positions.