ianofcleveleys Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Conway got roasted for the goal and struggled on a few other occasions, did recover well a couple of other times though to get a foot in when they were threatening. He isnt helped by having someone like Gale in front of him, who offers zero support. Johnston ended up pulled out of position doing the doubling up on their lad. Quote
Jol_BWFC Posted January 1 Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, Zog1 said: The strikers arent the problem the supply is. I’m sorry, but that just isn’t true. Quote
Farnywhite Posted January 1 Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, Zog1 said: The strikers arent the problem the supply is. The supply is shit but burstow first touch as became poor no one getting close to dalby if he won a header back to goal . But coupled with a piss poor defence that was a shambles last season and seen no investment but Conway brought back into the fold Quote
waffer cup 07 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 6 minutes ago, Zog1 said: The strikers arent the problem the supply is. Fact is when the strikers get a chance they don't take them. Quote
Zog1 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Just now, waffer cup 07 said: Fact is when the strikers get a chance they don't take them. Yeah but look at the number of REAL chances theyre getting it's a probability game. Quote
little whitt Posted January 1 Posted January 1 8 minutes ago, Zog1 said: The strikers arent the problem the supply is. THIS Quote
deeane Koontz Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) Strikers are allowed to make their own luck too. These 2 do nothing of the kind at the minute. Edited January 1 by deeane Koontz Quote
ianofcleveleys Posted January 1 Posted January 1 3 minutes ago, Farnywhite said: We have played one of the worst sides in the league on a terrible run and they couod of been out of sight in the first half we have scrapped a point . Top 2 isn’t happening but we should be looking at 3 points against sides like that Looking at the 5 games over Xmas / New Year, wasn't anticipating much at Wycombe but the remaining 4 were 12 points for the taking and 12 important ones given tougher fixtures in Jan. On course so far for only 7 at best, in a run of form that doesn't give much encouragement for those games v likes of Posh, Wigan and Stevenage. We have too many who look to have lost form, energy and confidence when we're only half way through the season. One of the risks of our reshaping being based on younger players with less experience of the grind of a full season in the trenches of L1 Quote
Jol_BWFC Posted January 1 Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, Zog1 said: Yeah but look at the number of REAL chances theyre getting it's a probability game. Worth rewatching the Mansfield game. Quote
BoltonPro15 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 No point digging out any individual players, they were all as bad as each other today (Miller being the only exception). I do wonder what our actual tactics are because I can never work out what our plan is, other than just getting the ball to the wide men. It seems it doesn't really matter which personnel we have in the CM positions or the forwards positions, the outcomes are largely the same. Surely this has got to be a tactical issue. I'm sure somebody will tell me otherwise but I struggle to think of a player who has improved under SS tenure. I'm still backing SS but questioning why. Quote
Zog1 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Just now, Jol_BWFC said: Worth rewatching the Mansfield game. I did and as far as strikers go they maybe had 1 real opportunity. Quote
worthy10 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) Let's be honest, we've been poor all season away from home. The results have been better at the reebok but other than the wigan game it's not been a great watch. The standard of football in this league is terrible, so we are still in it. A petulant team selection today and then a blunderbus approach just throwing them all on? Morley is now a centre half? Conway is slow and weak defensively. We panic and are so disorganised at the back. We need a calm and classy CH. Today has finally proved that our strikers are not good enough. Burstow started the season well but that now seems to have been a flash in the pan. We need to spend on someone who can take chances, easier said, but the strikers we have acquired seems to feel like a punt. Confidence is very low but come our next home game, the optimism will have risen again, until we kick off. The owners must wonder how much £££ they can risk on trying to get the players needed to get us up, because this season is as easy as it's been and likely to be for years., then is gets tough. Edited January 1 by worthy10 . Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted January 1 Posted January 1 16 minutes ago, Winchester White said: Jesus, some folk need to calm down a little. That will be the worst we play this season and we've come away with a point. We've come off the back of 2 defeats in 3, then played our "worst" game of the season, all is well 😀 And would you say we played better than that at Burton and Northampton? Bottom line is we are poor away from home if we have to play against 11 men, not that we've had a one off below par game. Quote
Popular Post waffer cup 07 Posted January 1 Popular Post Posted January 1 SS really does need to hit on his best team and stick with it, with minimum changes. Were ending up with a different line up every game and it really showed today. Quote
Zico Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Been a piss poor Christmas run Not sure what needs to be done to get back on track Could be a change in tactics, could be new players, but he's tried enough different combos recently and nothing is really working Shocking that today, other results been kind Really hoping that's as bad as it gets Quote
Jol_BWFC Posted January 1 Posted January 1 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Zog1 said: I did and as far as strikers go they maybe had 1 real opportunity. Dalby and Burstow had a gilt edged chance each against Mansfield. Dalby had another half chance but was too slow off the mark and the defender got ahead of him. A sharp striker with legs as long as his prods it home. I remember him missing a couple of sitters against Burton too. As a target / aerial man he sent his header today (off the free kick) about 10 yards over the bar. As for his support play, he wins remarkably few flick ons and that “cross”’ today. Burstow seems lacking in confidence and has lost all the ability he had the first 10 games. As for the number 10s, we’ve done Randall / McAtee / Forss to death already on this message board. We need fresh blood and ideas. Edited January 1 by Jol_BWFC Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted January 1 Posted January 1 18 minutes ago, Zog1 said: The strikers arent the problem the supply is. Do you honestly think Collins would be on 2 goals in this team and/or would have gone 3 months without having a shot or header on target. Some strikers do score when its not an obvious "chance". Even the recent goals that Sheehan and Dempsey have been scoring, its just hard to envisage any of SSs 3 strikers bagging. Quote
ianofcleveleys Posted January 1 Posted January 1 1 minute ago, Johnnyrotten said: Do you honestly think Collins would be on 2 goals in this team and/or would have gone 3 months without having a shot or header on target. Some strikers do score when its not an obvious "chance". Even the recent goals that Sheehan and Dempsey have been scoring, its just hard to envisage any of SSs 3 strikers bagging. I'm tempted to agree with that, thr better strikers, even at our level, have the ability to make a goal happen for themselves, with a bit of vision and ability, or maybe the pace to get beyond a defender or seize on an error. At the moment none of our present options have that in them Quote
gonzo Posted January 1 Posted January 1 38 minutes ago, Winchester White said: Jesus, some folk need to calm down a little. That will be the worst we play this season and we've come away with a point. Aye think that's me done for a bit Quote
Zog1 Posted January 1 Posted January 1 1 minute ago, Johnnyrotten said: Do you honestly think Collins would be on 2 goals in this team and/or would have gone 3 months without having a shot or header on target. Some strikers do score when its not an obvious "chance". Even the recent goals that Sheehan and Dempsey have been scoring, its just hard to envisage any of SSs 3 strikers bagging. Forss was a regular goal scorer in the Championship! Dalby albeit in the Scotish Prem a similar level to league 1, he scored 16 goals in 1/2 a season. These guys know where the net is, they just need supply. Quote
Tombwfc Posted January 1 Posted January 1 40 minutes ago, meanderson93 said: 7 points with a game in hand at the start of Jan. Yeah, that's touching distance. And so we're also apparently in touching distance of being in the bottom half. Thank God we've improved from the three years of 'mediocrity' you talked about. Bolton fans were incredibly patient (maybe too patient) with Evatt and now we're being incredibly patient (maybe too patient) with Schumacher. Quote
Eavesy Posted January 1 Posted January 1 Why is it when the opponents get the ball they look like they have loads of space and we need last ditch tackling to save our skin. And yet when we get the ball there is no space, we never seem to get 1v1 and we end up back at the keeper. Just blows my mind how often that happens so many times Quote
Burndens Bogs Posted January 1 Posted January 1 SS needs to ditch this bingo selection bollocks. Just play your best X1 every fucking week and 'if' or rather when we get injuries we'll just deal with it at the time. They are fit young men, they can deal with 4 games in 10 days or whatever it is. 2 points dropped today against a team that had earned 1 point from 18 going into this game. Quote
Johnnyrotten Posted January 1 Posted January 1 2 minutes ago, Zog1 said: Forss was a regular goal scorer in the Championship! Dalby albeit in the Scotish Prem a similar level to league 1, he scored 16 goals in 1/2 a season. These guys know where the net is, they just need supply. Forss looked like a decent signing, based on a couple of years ago (17 goals in 59 games 2022-24). Last season 1 goal in 24 tells a different story, and we can only go off what we've seen, this isn't a player who has goals in him, its not like we ever see the keeper even making a save. Collins would have bad spells but he got games by the scruff of the neck and tried to make things happen with a long range shot, course they didn't all go in and he's as weak as piss, but he had an obvious desire to get us going. McAtee has a similar desire, course he's not perfect as we all thought we were getting upgrades. We absolutely weren't. And like you I was encouraged by Dalby's goals for Dundee United, I can't believe that doesn't translate to goals for a top 8 side in L1, but it doesn't unfortunately. He lacks the devilment, physicality and will to win that I was hoping he'd bring. He got 10 goals in half a season, not 15. That was the full season. Quote
Tombwfc Posted January 1 Posted January 1 12 minutes ago, Zog1 said: Forss was a regular goal scorer in the Championship! Dalby albeit in the Scotish Prem a similar level to league 1, he scored 16 goals in 1/2 a season. These guys know where the net is, they just need supply. Dan Nlundulu and Declan John started and won the Scottish Cup final. Dalby is absolutely nowhere near being good enough to be the main striker at L1 team chasing automatic promotion. And he never has been. Quote
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