We were awful but we didn't get beat. Why are we not rejoicing at this result? 

You're a strange bunch.

 

Edited January 1Jan 1 by Underpants

16 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

I'm tempted to agree with that, thr better strikers, even at our level, have the ability to make a goal happen for themselves, with a bit of vision and ability, or maybe the pace to get beyond a defender or seize on an error. At the moment none of our present options have that in them

 

A striker with any, or preferably more than one of, strength, pace, skill, making runs, anticipating positioning, being a horrible bastard, would be on my shopping list. Fergal?

7 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

And so we're also apparently in touching distance of being in the bottom half. 

Thank God we've improved from the three years of 'mediocrity' you talked about.

Bolton fans were incredibly patient (maybe too patient) with Evatt and now we're being incredibly patient (maybe too patient) with Schumacher.

Did I say we'd improved? 

Personally I prefer Schumacher's approach but objectively the results are similar.

But the last man got YEARS of serving up the same shite that consistently failed whilst spending millions, Schumacher at least deserves a full season and a couple of windows to build a squad before we draw too many conclusions.

The buck as always stops with the manager  he looks unable to fix the long standing problems since he as been Here poor defending , poor set pieces both ends of the pitch poor away form loads of possession that does not equate to creating chances with a half decent summer budget the best winger in the division on loan 

Schumacher  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0mrn4c9

18 minutes ago, Underpants said:

We were awful but we didn't get beat. Why are we not rejoicing at this result? 

You're a strange bunch.

 

Entitled thickos who can't control their emotions.

What was hard was the lack of obvious spirit, or fight. It was a little like that last 10 matches last season. Simply went through the motions. How that is possible I have no idea.

15 minutes ago, Farnywhite said:

The buck as always stops with the manager  he looks unable to fix the long standing problems since he as been Here poor defending , poor set pieces both ends of the pitch poor away form loads of possession that does not equate to creating chances with a half decent summer budget the best winger in the division on loan 

Conceded the 3rd fewest goals in the league, by the way.

Forss, Kissoko and Burstow need to be sent back; Dalby ditched to the B team. McAtee and Randell sold. Bring in two strikers and two full backs and we might have half a chance

27 minutes ago, meanderson93 said:

Did I say we'd improved? 

Personally I prefer Schumacher's approach but objectively the results are similar.

But the last man got YEARS of serving up the same shite that consistently failed whilst spending millions, Schumacher at least deserves a full season and a couple of windows to build a squad before we draw too many conclusions.

 

"Objectively the results are similar"

On this day two years ago we were second with 51 points.

9 minutes ago, meanderson93 said:

Conceded the 3rd fewest goals in the league, by the way.

In a very poor league this season 

 

6 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

"Objectively the results are similar"

On this day two years ago we were second with 51 points.

And we still fucked it up

"Pleased with a point"

Not good enough. 

1 hour ago, Zog1 said:

Forss was a regular goal scorer in the Championship!

Dalby albeit in the Scotish Prem a similar level to league 1, he scored 16 goals in 1/2 a season. 

These guys know where the net is, they just need supply. 

Forss is a striker getting shoehorned in elsewhere. Either play him Upfront or not at all.

Fortunate to get a point, and similarly fortunate that everybody else dropped points. 4 points from 12 over the festive period so far really isn’t good enough.

We need to get a good win on Sunday and get a player or two in before Peterborough as the discontent was quite noticeable today. 

Thought reactions might OTT so looked on Facebook first. This seems reasonable view todays game 😂😂🇺🇸

not said anything about the manager, he only tries to play people ( not players ) who he has to train to be players, they cant control or pass the ball, the white horse can take bolton on and probably beat them, we have a big problem, same as all teams, its political and you should all stop paying your money to go, then it will stop, not until, happened in usa 10 yrs ago, look at all their bascket ball players and puffs rugby players political to stop the general public being racist and support them, but they have to be trained to play not just to run, guvernments are so racist

20 minutes ago, CumbrianWhite said:

Forss is a striker getting shoehorned in elsewhere. Either play him Upfront or not at all.

If the alternative was Dalby I'd play my dead Grannie.

Given that we didn't really deserve a point today, surely we should have had a penalty when McAtee challenged for the ball near the goal line and the ball clearly hit the defenders raised arm. Looked nailed on to me.

Just now, waffer cup 07 said:

Given that we didn't really deserve a point today, surely we should have had a penalty when McAtee challenged for the ball near the goal line and the ball clearly hit the defenders raised arm. Looked nailed on to me.

There has been a rule change in the EFL this season, whereby Bolton Wanderers are not to be given a single penalty during the league season. 

At least the refs are all consistent in following this edict, despite more than enough evidence at times that the rule change is without foundation and discriminatory. 

Quite a prickly SS post match i/v with the BBC; people moan when we don't play with target men, then today when we do. We can't win.

 

Thing is, our striker/target men are awful at winning headers, particularly in the box. But there must be a tactical compromise, rather than just shove em all on ignorantly. "We went long ball today" which meant the centre halves diagonally hoofing it to the wing, then if the ball was crossed it wasn't won/headed.

bottom line none of the strikers our good enough??

Just hope SS head doesn't go like Evatts did and he starts falling out with every cunt.

We are a really hard club to manage. 

Massive fanbase in a league we shouldn't be in with high expectations and shit loads of pressure.

He needs to keep cool and remember this is a marathon and not a sprint. 

Everything doesn't need fixing all in one go, game to game, despite what us fans protest.

Keep calm. Stick to the plan and just get the pissing basics right.

Edited January 1Jan 1 by gonzo

I'm trying to stay positive but after leaving that game today I can't help but feel the most worried so far this season. We just looked like a poor league 1 side.

However you put it, our away form is genuinely poor at best. I cannot find anything in me at all from watching that and with the season in context to be remotely pleased with that draw.

For the manager to say otherwise is also worrying, as is the fact that he doesn't appear to have any answers on how to get us winning games away from home consistently still in January. 

All the fans expect top 2 and the players and managers are also aligned with the same goal and have said that publicly. Therefore with this in mind, we are well below our objectives.

The positive as we've seen that makes it even more frustrating is the fact that anybody can lose around us. Not a single top 8 side won today. As they say, it's the hope that kills you. 

The manager definitely needs and will get time. Getting his ideal team in 1 window was always a big ask. Let's hope January provides us with the extra 10/15% we need to get over the line in matches and start picking up results consistently.

We need to keep in the chasing pack for the top 2.

We ought to be a relative easy club to manage though- good fan base, good support away, decent money being made available and the most loyal chair in the league.

He became tetchy last season- understandably- but he has to take the rough with the smooth. 

His comment today seemed completely off the mark: folk aren't being critical specifically for the slight tactical change, but for the lack of quality exhibited by those entrusted with its implementation. 

If big lads play up front, get quality crosses in for them to attack. 

More to it than that though; confidence seems to have dropped and multi-ball approach to selection doesn't seem to help.

 

8 minutes ago, Lostock Whites said:

All the fans expect top 2 and the players and managers are also aligned with the same goal and have said that publicly. Therefore with this in mind, we are well below our objectives

That was definitely the talk in the summer but less so recently it’s being more of being in contention when we around 6th  . Not heard the manger say once about the gap opening up from the top 2 and  trying to close it