Underpants Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 Serious answer please so this thread excludes Widnes A self-employed mate has been summoned for jury service in June and he wants to get out of it because he reckons he???ll lose too much money. I told him he???s got 2 chances, slim and none. Anyone?
Carlos Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 I believe that you dress as smartly as you can and give the defendant evils, you will be one of the people they ask to be removed. Or get diagnosed with narcolepsy.
buckhurstwhite Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 Serious answer please so this thread excludes Widnes A self-employed mate has been summoned for jury service in June and he wants to get out of it because he reckons he???ll lose too much money. I told him he???s got 2 chances, slim and none. Anyone? Possible if your a director or your job means you HAVE to be away during the time you are supposed to be on Jury service. However, you only can get away with it once, they won't accept it again if you get called up again. They do pay you for loss of earnings, but not if your customers f??ck off and go elsewhere. Failing that go to Outer Mongolia
Bea Smith Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 Serious answer please so this thread excludes Widnes A self-employed mate has been summoned for jury service in June and he wants to get out of it because he reckons he???ll lose too much money. I told him he???s got 2 chances, slim and none. Anyone? i dont think he will either as they will reimburse his costs if he can prove them. compen for lost earnings is part of the agreement. however, as cases can drag on and will make him seriously behind at work( and this could poss mean he starts other jobs late etc), he should make the case that this ill be detrimental to his career/business as it makes him look unreliable/unorganised etc if he gets behind with work or starts work after the agreed date. honesty is the best policy as far as this goes.
alibob Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 Don't know about getting out of it before, but if you end up there wave to the defendant when they bring them in and say they are your good friend 'john/fred/ whatever' and you couldnt possibly do it as you would be biased.
Horwich Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 when i did it, a few people got out of it on the 1st day. they always call up more than they need
SatanGreavsie Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 I fucked up when I was called - deffered it once on a petty excuse but then they get you later - and "later" in this case was slap bang in the middle of the 1998 World Cup . So the day after England Argentina I had to be down at Leicester Crown Court at 9 Worst thing about that place is that there's only one exit and so you end up walking back to the station with the defendant's mates, family etc. The first one was a lad up for loads of burglaries and as a preamble they read out all the addresses in question and they were within a 10 minute radius from me; all his mates were in the gallery so I was bricking it as I'd be getting the train back with them. Fortunately they needed a new jury on a technicality. We then did nowt for many days (you can ring up the night before to see if you will be needed) and then got on the case of a lad who had been stabbed. His story and those of the defendant were all complete lies so the fucker got off, even though he probably did it, but not in leicester and in the manner suggested. Walking out afterwards me and this other bloke off the jury realised we were heading back to the station behind the extended family of the stabbed bloke and they didnt look best chuffed - so we went round the block a few times to keep out of their way. Oddly, though its difficult to get out of in terms of not doing it, once you're there you can give reasons why you cannot do more than 2 weeks and they seemed quite lenient on this. It's interesting as the original group you join get split up into various trials and although you're not supposed to talk about the one you're on everyone does when they get back to the coffee room. Mind you, its not necessarily nice - one of the women on our original group ended up on a trial of a child abuser and they eventually found him gulity on the basis of matching the teeth marks from the poor kid's body to those of the defendant. Needless to say the woman in question was upset by it all. Irony was that there a way I could have got out of it after all if I'd used me loaf....
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Exiled Girl Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 Official line is: http://www.cjsonline.gov.uk/juror/expenses/index.html If you are self-employed: If you are self-employed you will have to provide the court with some evidence that you have lost earnings: a letter from your accountant, for example. If you think you will have to pay to obtain the evidence, please get advice from the court office first. and some advice on here: http://money.guardian.co.uk/personal/story...1450339,00.html and from Hansard: Mr. Maclean: To ask the Minister of State, Lord Chancellor's Department if he will introduce a system of allowances for jurors based on their actual income loss. [73301] Mr. Hoon: It is necessary to place a limit on the amount of financial loss allowance payable to jurors to ensure that the expenditure from the public purse is not excessive. There are no plans to alter the current system, which allows jurors to receive up to ??49.68 per day for loss of earnings, rising to a daily maximum of ??99.37 after 10 days of jury service. Courts will listen sympathetically to applications for excusal or deferral if financial hardship might result. Mr. Maclean: To ask the Minister of State, Lord Chancellor's Department what reports he has received of jurors seeking to evade jury service because they cannot afford the loss of income to their business. [73658] Mr. Hoon: I understand that there have been occasional complaints from self employed people called for jury service. Generally, these are dealt with at the originating court and information is not kept centrally.
Widnes Two Hats Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 All he has to do is casually mention to the judge that he's wearing a pair of Joan Collin's knickers and he has to go and plough the sand, then a sharp playaway salute and he'll be out the building within 10 seconds Alternatively, keep winking at the defendant
SatanGreavsie Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 All he has to do is casually mention to the judge that he's wearing a pair of Joan Collin's knickers and he has to go and plough the sand, then a sharp playaway salute and he'll be out the building within 10 seconds Alternatively, keep winking at the defendant I tried all that, it didn't work Which reminds me, I must give Joan a bell
Wobbly J Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 All he has to do is casually mention to the judge that he's wearing a pair of Joan Collin's knickers and he has to go and plough the sand, then a sharp playaway salute and he'll be out the building within 10 seconds Alternatively, keep winking at the defendant One of the few times my little 'tourettes' problem has got me out of a sticky situation. - had me out of the Courtroom quicker than you could shout "you guilty mother fukcer"
Bigtoe Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 Turn up in your pyjamas with your cock hanging out ala Mike Baldwin RIP
Maggie Tate Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 I did jury service when I was 18. Huge fun, especially at that age. Very difficult to get out of, not that I tried, it was a welcome break at the time, but the literature they send makes it pretty clear. It is your duty as a subject of this great nation.
Smiffs Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 1. commit a half serious crime beforehand so you're off the list in the first place, or 2. when the charges are read out, shout 'hang the bastard'.
bwfc_sue Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 or 3. If they are of ethnic origin show your discontent at them being in our country in the first place.
Smiffs Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 or3. If they are of ethnic origin show your discontent by shouting 'fcuk off home you nig nog'.
Guest Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 You have to get a signed doctors cert ........... But its really interesting i did it 5 years ago !!
Exiled Girl Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 You have to get a signed doctors cert ........... But its really interesting i did it 5 years ago !! What good would a signed doctor's certificate do for someone who's self-employed?
Guest Posted April 5, 2006 Posted April 5, 2006 You have to get a signed doctors cert ........... But its really interesting i did it 5 years ago !! What good would a signed doctor's certificate do for someone who's self-employed? To show possibly due to illness cannot attend !! Therefore he wouldnt lose his earnings
HomerJay Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 or3. If they are of ethnic origin show your discontent at them being in our country in the first place. thats probaby not a bad idea, just confess to being racist right at the start.
Maggie Tate Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 Claiming you're racist won't get you off. A good mate of mine claims he'll never get called up as he is self-proclaimed, and I quote, 'the most prejudiced man in Leigh' but I told him it makes no odds. What happens is this: 12 people are on a jury. 14 of you are called to the court and you are all given numbers. 12 of those numbers are called out and that's the jury. The other 2 go and sit down, have a brew, read a book etc till they get called out again. Now, of those 12 the defendent or his defence people can, without any obligation whatsoever to give an explanation, have someone removed from the jury and replaced with those who've missed out from the original 14. So if you've got a black bloke as the accused and you turn up like this: Or wearing one of these: Or one of these: ...then there is every chance you'll be asked to leave and be replaced. This does NOT, however, exempt you from jury service. It is perfectly possible to fully complete jury service without ever setting foot in court. In short, get it over with.
no balls Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 Serious answer now..... I got out of it about 10 years ago. I got it referred twice & they've never asked me again. First time I wrote a letter as I was having surgery at the time & would be in hospital (a boob job believe it or not!). Second time I told them I had just been promoted (nothing to do with the new boobs though!) and it would hinder my career to be off work for any length of time. I was a bit gutted really now I look back as I bet it's a bit of a laugh. You could always fein mental illness when they're picking the jury though if they still want you to do it.
HomerJay Posted April 6, 2006 Posted April 6, 2006 Serious answer now.....I got out of it about 10 years ago. I got it referred twice & they've never asked me again. First time I wrote a letter as I was having surgery at the time & would be in hospital (a boob job believe it or not!). Second time I told them I had just been promoted (nothing to do with the new boobs though!) and it would hinder my career to be off work for any length of time. I was a bit gutted really now I look back as I bet it's a bit of a laugh. You could always fein mental illness when they're picking the jury though if they still want you to do it. pics before and after please... purely for medical education of course.
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