Burndens Bogs Posted January 20, 2007 Posted January 20, 2007 (edited) fuckin school teachers eh ? get a life Get a breath :::::::::::::::: Edited January 20, 2007 by Burndens Bogs
pete harry Posted January 20, 2007 Posted January 20, 2007 Let's be honest, Allardyce is a superb manager for a club of our size, but he has all the public relations expertise of Myra Hindley. Does he really think that someone who earns twice as much in a week as I earn in a year can't get motivated unless I shout a bit louder? Do me a favour.
Carlos Posted January 20, 2007 Posted January 20, 2007 Let's be honest, Allardyce is a superb manager for a club of our size, but he has all the public relations expertise of Myra Hindley. Does he really think that someone who earns twice as much in a week as I earn in a year can't get motivated unless I shout a bit louder? Do me a favour. Very good sir.
Dollybird Posted January 20, 2007 Posted January 20, 2007 I totally agree with Zozzy !!!! If you support your team 100% then also the Manager as well !! You can't bend your support when its suit's, every team has its good and bad point's.
Traf Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 I totally agree with Zozzy !!!! If you support your team 100% then also the Manager as well !! You can't bend your support when its suit's, every team has its good and bad point's. I heard Zozzy stayed in the pub during yesterday's game. If it's true: how does he class that as getting behind his team 100%? If it's false: I'll shoot the messenger.
mickadoo Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 Let's be honest, Allardyce is a superb manager for a club of our size, but he has all the public relations expertise of Myra Hindley. Does he really think that someone who earns twice as much in a week as I earn in a year can't get motivated unless I shout a bit louder? Do me a favour. That's fair enough, but you can at least see where he's coming from. He sees how the top teams sell out most games, and particularly the effects of the crowd at Anfield. Even the best manager in the world couldn't work wonders without the gates to back them up.
Jeebster Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 Perhaps the teams that sell out every week, actually have a manager who believes in playing good entertaining football, not a manager like Allardyce who sets out to win every game (home or away) 1-0 How is it he expects everyone to part with hard earned money to pay to watch the dull/negative shite that he puts out most weeks. Its about time he stopped having a go at the fans every week, and put a team out that plays good football, which in turn gets the crowd going and creates a good atmosphere. Most games its hard enough staying awake never mind cheering ! He's had 6 months to bring in 2 good fullbacks and a creative midfielder and there's now 10 days left in this window - this team is far to slow and predictable and in most games are very boring to watch.
Traf Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 Bolton will never sack him anyway. However, he might well walk, when Rodent gets the sack.
seasoned Traveller Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 to those who say it is ??39 to watch bolton obviously never go to the Reebok, tell me 1 game where the bottom price for a ticket was ??39, if you cannot talk sense shut up chaps Mounts, I was at a loose end one Saturday, 'bout 18 months ago when we played the Massive. I phoned for a ticket late on Fridat afternoon and was told they only had upper tier left, fair do's I said, 'How much'....39 quid and a 1.50 booking fee....my reply was...fcuk me Dick Turpin wore a mask and put the phone down. Granted it was a AAA game I think, but 39 quid...friggin hell.....they sould have put them on offer at that time. I think they shot themselves in the foot with the Cardiff debarcle, now they are paying the price. I admire all you diehards I really do, but I was one of those in the 80's when we were at our lowest point and 90's when the revival began. I've done my time..I've not jumped on the bandwaggon cos were a Premiership club and I do feel after 26 yrs of watching I have a right to voice my opinion as much as anyone on here, be it right or wrong. I've been to one game this season..Blackburn away..along with thousands of other stayaways I suggest, I thouroghly enjoyed myself and for 15 quid, I had a full day out for the price of a ticket that day of the massive game. Football is being ruined by Greedy players, greedy agents and all the other crap that comes with it. I have voted with my feet and decided to stayaway.it's a shame because after all the crap I have seen over the years, I feel I should be going to watch the best team ever in my era. BSA is doing more for us than I ever thought he would, and he is a credit to our club, he speaks his mind about the support...fair play and least there's no grey areas with the bloke..but he needs to understand that everyone does'nt earn the millions he or his players do. Were not the only club...look at City yesterday...loads of empty seats. The football bubble is about to burst.
MopHead Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 I'd better be careful as I'm 'Unbanned for a trial period'. Cheers, I believe justice has been done here. Didn't mean to offend or upset anybody on here with what I said but I was provoked into it. Despite yesterdays pathetic performance Sam is still the man and maybe one day(probably when he's gone and we're shit again) everyone will appreciate what he's done for us.
Ani Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 I'd better be careful as I'm 'Unbanned for a trial period'. Cheers, I believe justice has been done here. Didn't mean to offend or upset anybody on here with what I said but I was provoked into it. Despite yesterdays pathetic performance Sam is still the man and maybe one day(probably when he's gone and we're shit again) everyone will appreciate what he's done for us. Mop, Because of how incredibly well Sam has done on the pitch does that make him immune from any criticism ? serious question .
Carlos Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 It seems so, everyone knows we'll miss him when he's gone, that's so obvious it's not even worth pointing it out. That leads to the point, is Sam bigger than BWFC? I'd say the answer is an unequivocal no. In which case, who the fcuk does he think he is to critise the supporters who stuck with the club in Division 4 and who will be there long after he's gone?
Casino Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 who the fcuk does he think he is to critise the supporters who stuck with the club in Division 4 and who will be there long after he's gone? when he criticises those who don't turn up, he isn't
Carlos Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 when he criticises those who don't turn up, he isn't I've missed some games this season, does that mean I've stopped supporting them then?
White Army Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 Mounts,I was at a loose end one Saturday, 'bout 18 months ago when we played the Massive. I phoned for a ticket late on Fridat afternoon and was told they only had upper tier left, fair do's I said, 'How much'....39 quid and a 1.50 booking fee....my reply was...fcuk me Dick Turpin wore a mask and put the phone down. Granted it was a AAA game I think, but 39 quid...friggin hell.....they sould have put them on offer at that time. I think they shot themselves in the foot with the Cardiff debarcle, now they are paying the price. I admire all you diehards I really do, but I was one of those in the 80's when we were at our lowest point and 90's when the revival began. I've done my time..I've not jumped on the bandwaggon cos were a Premiership club and I do feel after 26 yrs of watching I have a right to voice my opinion as much as anyone on here, be it right or wrong. I've been to one game this season..Blackburn away..along with thousands of other stayaways I suggest, I thouroghly enjoyed myself and for 15 quid, I had a full day out for the price of a ticket that day of the massive game. Football is being ruined by Greedy players, greedy agents and all the other crap that comes with it. I have voted with my feet and decided to stayaway.it's a shame because after all the crap I have seen over the years, I feel I should be going to watch the best team ever in my era. BSA is doing more for us than I ever thought he would, and he is a credit to our club, he speaks his mind about the support...fair play and least there's no grey areas with the bloke..but he needs to understand that everyone does'nt earn the millions he or his players do. Were not the only club...look at City yesterday...loads of empty seats. The football bubble is about to burst. I really couldn't agree more with you matey. It's all these fat money grabbin bastards that's ruining FOOTBALL not just BOLTON. And it isn't Big Sam's fault. But you can understand him when were at the highest position weve ever been and still have thousands not turning up. Football as in the working man's game is dying, i personally think it's near as dead. It's all about money these days take a look at that ??30 million on average each club in the prem will get next year And all these diving cheating gary nevilles dont exactly please me either. I'm same i turned up for the filth at home, scumburn away and Donny away this year. I was there late 70's and all 80's and 90's and had some real memories of watchin bolton home and away. Cheap tickets and not as much of the OB made for great days out. But unfortunately it's dying out and the terrace culture will never ever come back. i just wonder about the next generation of wanderers supporters
Traf Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 Allardyce felt the need to apologise for yesterday's performance. I put to the general public, that if he hadn't had a pop at the fans last week, no apology would have happened this week. Secondly, after such poor showings against Liverpool, City and Boro already this month: why should the casual fan turn up for the forthcoming "glamour" fixtures v Charlton and Fulham? If I had attended our last three games at a cost of around ??100 plus travel expenses, I'd be very wary of shelling out more money until it looked like an improvement was going to happen.
bristol_wanderer Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 Allardyce felt the need to apologise for yesterday's performance. I put to the general public, that if he hadn't had a pop at the fans last week, no apology would have happened this week. Secondly, after such poor showings against Liverpool, City and Boro already this month: why should the casual fan turn up for the forthcoming "glamour" fixtures v Charlton and Fulham? If I had attended our last three games at a cost of around ??100 plus travel expenses, I'd be very wary of shelling out more money until it looked like an improvement was going to happen. Point 1. No. From his perspective, he wasn't having a go at the fans last week - he was encouraging the fans who didn't go to the City game 'not to be complacent', and attend games and get behind the team'. IMHO the apology this week was based on an unacceptable performance - nothing more, nothing less. Point 2. No reason whatsoever. That is why the casual fan is a causal fan. Every club has its share of supporters who will attend no matter what, and casual fans. From this seasons attendances BWFC currently have around 20500 in the former, with a few thousand extra in the latter. For the casual supporter I would have imagined the Charlton/Fulham games are the best of the season. For ??10, you see two games we are likely to win, and we are due some good performances. Rightly or wrongly there is an assumption by the football industry that the fan has a loyalty to his team, and that you attend games because you are a 'supporter' through thick and thin. For the 20500, BWFC means enough for them to spend the money and the time to go each week despite the odd bad game. Without these supporters football clubs wouldn't exist. Football has its problems I agree, and our club needs to think about prices and incentives, but such negativity three bad games, in our best season for 48 years, is truly amazing.
Carlos Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 Point 1. No. From his perspective, he wasn't having a go at the fans last week - he was encouraging the fans... It's a pretty fucked up definition of encouraging in my book. It may well work on players who Sam has put through psychological testing but it certainly doesn't work on me.
bristol_wanderer Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 It's a pretty fucked up definition of encouraging in my book. It may well work on players who Sam has put through psychological testing but it certainly doesn't work on me. Out of interest, what would work for you?
Burndens Bogs Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 Mounts,I was at a loose end one Saturday, 'bout 18 months ago when we played the Massive. I phoned for a ticket late on Fridat afternoon and was told they only had upper tier left, fair do's I said, 'How much'....39 quid and a 1.50 booking fee....my reply was...fcuk me Dick Turpin wore a mask and put the phone down. Granted it was a AAA game I think, but 39 quid...friggin hell.....they sould have put them on offer at that time. I think they shot themselves in the foot with the Cardiff debarcle, now they are paying the price. I admire all you diehards I really do, but I was one of those in the 80's when we were at our lowest point and 90's when the revival began. I've done my time..I've not jumped on the bandwaggon cos were a Premiership club and I do feel after 26 yrs of watching I have a right to voice my opinion as much as anyone on here, be it right or wrong. I've been to one game this season..Blackburn away..along with thousands of other stayaways I suggest, I thouroghly enjoyed myself and for 15 quid, I had a full day out for the price of a ticket that day of the massive game. Football is being ruined by Greedy players, greedy agents and all the other crap that comes with it. I have voted with my feet and decided to stayaway.it's a shame because after all the crap I have seen over the years, I feel I should be going to watch the best team ever in my era. BSA is doing more for us than I ever thought he would, and he is a credit to our club, he speaks his mind about the support...fair play and least there's no grey areas with the bloke..but he needs to understand that everyone does'nt earn the millions he or his players do. Were not the only club...look at City yesterday...loads of empty seats. The football bubble is about to burst. Good post st spot on imo.
Smiffs Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 The club lost the right to week in week out never ending dying support when they decided we were customers and not fans.
Big_Girl_Oral_Explosion Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 Bolton will never sack him anyway.However, he might well walk, when Rodent gets the sack. maybe, and i have postulated as such on here. but i would still ay he is the best manager bolton have EVER had. i want him to stay.
leigh white Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 The best wind up ever, from a W/W poster, well done JC, my cap is doffed.
Big_Girl_Oral_Explosion Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 Mounts,I was at a loose end one Saturday, 'bout 18 months ago when we played the Massive. I phoned for a ticket late on Fridat afternoon and was told they only had upper tier left, fair do's I said, 'How much'....39 quid and a 1.50 booking fee....my reply was...fcuk me Dick Turpin wore a mask and put the phone down. Granted it was a AAA game I think, but 39 quid...friggin hell.....they sould have put them on offer at that time. I think they shot themselves in the foot with the Cardiff debarcle, now they are paying the price. I admire all you diehards I really do, but I was one of those in the 80's when we were at our lowest point and 90's when the revival began. I've done my time..I've not jumped on the bandwaggon cos were a Premiership club and I do feel after 26 yrs of watching I have a right to voice my opinion as much as anyone on here, be it right or wrong. I've been to one game this season..Blackburn away..along with thousands of other stayaways I suggest, I thouroghly enjoyed myself and for 15 quid, I had a full day out for the price of a ticket that day of the massive game. Football is being ruined by Greedy players, greedy agents and all the other crap that comes with it. I have voted with my feet and decided to stayaway.it's a shame because after all the crap I have seen over the years, I feel I should be going to watch the best team ever in my era. BSA is doing more for us than I ever thought he would, and he is a credit to our club, he speaks his mind about the support...fair play and least there's no grey areas with the bloke..but he needs to understand that everyone does'nt earn the millions he or his players do. Were not the only club...look at City yesterday...loads of empty seats. The football bubble is about to burst. great post that sums up my thoughts entirely
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