frank_spencer Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 The scoreboard corner is the only place in the whole ground that makes any noise at all. I sometimes hear the North Stand try and get something going, but that's it. 10 years at the Reebok and it's still a library - like I said, give it up. All teams at those new grounds struggle for atmosphere - Huddersfield, City & soon to be Everton. Just the way it is. but at burnden most of the songs were started in the paddock. when the club moved they should've picked a stand to become the 'new paddock' and in formed all the fans that this would be the case the age of stadium has feck all to do with the atmosphere. what really get on my tits abot people moaning about the lack of atmosphere is when they say 'i sit in the West Stand and no bugger around me sings' if you want the atmosphere move yer arse to the east stand and do something about it rather than just moan about it.
revdishydave Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 i used to stand in the paddock, and was led to believe NSL would be the continuation of it- S/T remaining at ?99 or ?199(i think going back to my college days). the idea being that the Reebok would hark back to the 70s with a wall of noise coming from behind the goal, a cauldron of noise similar to the Embankment/Lever End... ESL does not compare with either of these
Sumo Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 3 ways to bring back atmosphere 1) create singing section behind the goal & make ticket prices ?15 permanently in that section - it would be full every week 2) take the seats out in any section of the ground (if terraces become legal again) 3) move the ground back into Bolton where people can have a good drink before the game 2 won't happen because there are too many do-gooders knocking about the world , 3 is not pysically possible as I don't think the ground would fit down Chorley New Road & as long as I am overweight I don't think the club will have the sense to do number 1 therefore you're all doomed. luckily i moved to Bournemouth some time ago so don't hav eto attend the Reebok too often - I'll just stck to the awayday p**s ups
trotter58 Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 1) create singing section behind the goal & make ticket prices ?15 permanently in that section - it would be full every week No reason why they couldn't do that. You could also add a couple of cash-only pay-on-the-day turnstiles to make it easier for people to attend.
Sumo Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 yep - cash only turnstiles ! remember them , easy access. Lack of them definately puts off a lot of people who'd otherwise turn up last minute + drops down away following as well. get rid of tickets ! every man for himself
YATESY Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 yep - cash only turnstiles ! remember them , easy access. Lack of them definately puts off a lot of people who'd otherwise turn up last minute + drops down away following as well.get rid of tickets ! every man for himself No reason why they couldn't do that. You could also add a couple of cash-only pay-on-the-day turnstiles to make it easier for people to attend. I bet BWFC wish they could do that too. I would imagine the heavy hand of the law and H&S of Football Stadia has a lot to do with the current regulations that BWFC have to work to.
green genie Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 I bet BWFC wish they could do that too. I would imagine the heavy hand of the law and H&S of Football Stadia has a lot to do with the current regulations that BWFC have to work to. Still happens outside of the top flight so isn't a H&S regulation. More likely the Prem League clubs thought they wouldn't need them, with the excessive demand for their product.
trotter58 Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 I bet BWFC wish they could do that too. I would imagine the heavy hand of the law and H&S of Football Stadia has a lot to do with the current regulations that BWFC have to work to. Fulham have cash-only pay-on-the-day turnstiles.
SatanGreavsie Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 Fulham have cash-only pay-on-the-day turnstiles. It was cash on the day at the Brum turnstiles
Guest as Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 You could ask the club. But they woudn't listen. You'd expect them too, with empty seats everywhere...........but they're too pig ignorant.
trotter58 Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 You could ask the club. But they woudn't listen. You'd expect them too, with empty seats everywhere...........but they're too pig ignorant. They're going to have to sooner or later. I predict a crowd of less than 15,000 for a Premier League game at the Reebok before the season is over.
YATESY Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 They're going to have to sooner or later. I predict a crowd of less than 15,000 for a Premier League game at the Reebok before the season is over. Won't happen due to the level of season ticket holders. Next season - probably (no matter what division we are in) but not this season.
Guest as Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 Who at the club is supposed to look into these kind of idea's? Still no word on a ticket office in the town centre either - what'll be the point in sorting one once we're relegated?!
Mounts Kipper Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 Who at the club is supposed to look into these kind of idea's? Still no word on a ticket office in the town centre either - what'll be the point in sorting one once we're relegated?! Have to agree a no presence for a premiership club in the town that they draw there support from is a disgrace, would it be to difficult to have various newsagents all over town acting as an agent for the club and selling tickets on the clubs behalf?
Sumo Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 come on then sweepstake on the Boro attendance for Sunday 11th ?10,000 a man to enter, we'll give 50% of the proceeds to Jon Arne Riise as he needs the money by the looks of his wage slip. my guess is 17,245
frank_spencer Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 Who at the club is supposed to look into these kind of idea's? Still no word on a ticket office in the town centre either - what'll be the point in sorting one once we're relegated?! surely some sort of arrangement with the box office in th'albert halls could be made?
Ani Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 why not have a ticket office in bolton town centre, open till 2.30 on match day. then at 2.30 a coach (or coaches) takes everyone to the ground ? - or even mini buses to the station to catch the last train to get there for 3 ? you could charge an extra couiple of quid for the coaches. (might have to be earleir than 2.30)
Guest as Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 There are plenty of ideas that can be passed onto the club, but are they interested & will they listen. You'd expect any club who've lost 5,000 fans in 3 years to worry..............seems like bwfc don't care? Only a matter of time before even the most loyal get sick of it..........think of the money you'd save
bristol_wanderer Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 There are plenty of ideas that can be passed onto the club, but are they interested & will they listen. You'd expect any club who've lost 5,000 fans in 3 years to worry..............seems like bwfc don't care? Only a matter of time before even the most loyal get sick of it..........think of the money you'd save I was part of the WW delegation that had meetings with the club last year when most of these ideas were discussed. I have also had a one to one meeting with PG prior to these. My opinion is that the chap we met with - Mike Needham, Marketing Manager, a decent chap, but didn't have the clout to make anything really happen, and what really happened was him informing more senior people within the club of the results of our discussions, to little eventual effect. The only way to get anything to happen at BWFC IMO is to communicate direcly with PG. PG, whatever you may think of him, does care about all these issues, and wants to see fans filling the ground. We aren't going to move the ground to the centre of Bolton, and we aren't going to rip seats out for next season, and it will not be straight forward to achieve any of the other changes, but there is a chance if fans present well thought through ideas. The best of these are I have read (not just in this thread) are: Ticket office in Bolton More transport to and from Bolton at varying times. Opening up the premier suite to fans prior to games - i.e. a club bar for fans. But, a lot of the ideas around creating an atmosphere are down to the fans themselves. The club cannot create an atmosphere for us.
Mounts Kipper Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 I wonder if a bus 30 minutes before kick of could sweep round bolton town centre for fans who would like a pint there before the match.
trotter58 Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 (edited) it will not be straight forward to achieve any of the other changes I don't see why it's so difficult to open cash-only pay-on-the-day turnstiles. Other clubs do it. The club needs to make the whole process of attending games a lot easier. Maybe they should look into online ticket sales and simplify the whole pricing structure. Someone else suggested one end to be devoted to people who want to stand up and sing with a flat ticket price of ?15 for every game. Let's face it, the fans have started to vote with their feet in very large numbers and if the club doesn't start to listen to them soon, they will find it very difficult to persuade them to come back. Edited November 1, 2007 by trotter58
Bobcat Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 (edited) I was asked also to join this group as I had already stopped attending and it was felt that i could relay my personal feelings... However i quickly got the impression that we were wasting our time... For me the opening of the premier suite was a idea that was a winner for all, but it was dismissed with excuses that were pathetic and had no substance... feeble excuses followed for unrestricted seating and a host of other ideas we put forward. I still feel that even now the club will do nothing... they may knock another ?20 off a season ticket but that will not make one difference...for me money is only one of a number of reasons....and certainly not the main reason when we first moved to the Reebok we had a coach from the Seven Stars in Harwood full for every home game...out of that coach of 50 people only 2 now still go as season ticket holders. Now these people were not "JCL or plastic fans" these were our hardcore fans of varying ages who had followed us for years...and they are the ones who are stopping going... As i have said before nothing will every tempt me back to the Reebok...when ever I have returned, i have been as dissapointed as my last visit... I just don't like it, it's sanatised as is modern day football...and i just don't like it... But I respect those that are sticking by it...but it ain't for me. Edited November 1, 2007 by Bobcat
Mounts Kipper Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 I was asked also to join this group as I had already stopped attending and it was felt that i could relay my personal feelings... However i quickly got the impression that we were wasting our time... For me the opening of the premier suite was a idea that was a winner for all, but it was dismissed with excuses that were pathetic and had no substance... feeble excuses followed for unrestricted seating and a host of other ideas we put forward. I still feel that even now the club will do nothing... they may knock another ?20 off a season ticket but that will not make one difference...for me money is only one of a number of reasons....and certainly not the main reason when we first moved to the Reebok we had a coach from the Seven Stars in Harwood full for every home game...out of that coach of 50 people only 2 now still go as season ticket holders. Now these people were not "JCL or plastic fans" these were our hardcore fans of varying ages who had followed us for years...and they are the ones who are stopping going... As i have said before nothing will every tempt me back to the Reebok...when ever I have returned, i have been as dissapointed as my last visit... I just don't like it, it's sanatised as is modern day football...and i just don't like it... But I respect those that are sticking by it...but it ain't for me. I could of done with a bit of sanitisation after battling through 6000 unwashed council dwellers to get back to the peace and quiet of scotts bar where I went for a drink with the 20 bolton fans who had bothered to go for a pint.
roybarker Posted November 1, 2007 Posted November 1, 2007 most of you on this link seem to think everyone should live within 2 minutes of the ground get in the real world,lots of fans travel from well outside bolton our support is a joke,yet they all come out of the woodwork for a carling cup final its time the club rewarded the proper fans,not the part timers
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