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the bean counters will point out you have had a 'real terms' reduction on your ticket.

 

look, you moaning bastard

 

you can't compare the new, now reduced price with what you paid this season just gone, and then say, we're going to have to pay 200 quid more

 

thats just bollocks

 

i would say that id let folk relocate from the nsl to east or west lowers, for the price they paid this year

Petrol has risen by 40% since the last season started. It now costs us more to attend. So, in real terms, football is more expensive.

 

walk then

The club have had ample time to get this right.

 

Matchday revenue is insignificant in the grand scheme of things. The money from Sky and the merit bonuses of ?720,000 a place keep the club afloat.

 

Since ticket revenue is so insignificant and we all agree that ?49 for a child and ?299 for an adult is excellent pricing: they should quite simply have made all the lower tier plus North Upper the same price. Then added ?40 if you wanted to go in ESU or WSU.

 

That would have seen a much larger take-up on Season Tickets.

 

that must be why clubs look to increase their capacities

 

must be why wigan and blackburn have put some prices up

 

acceopted, its a small part of our income, but seeing as we're losing money, an important part

look, you moaning bastard

 

you can't compare the new, now reduced price with what you paid this season just gone, and then say, we're going to have to pay 200 quid more

 

thats just bollocks

 

i would say that id let folk relocate from the nsl to east or west lowers, for the price they paid this year

 

Ok then Last Season my ST was ?349 if we move to the West or East Lower it's ?409 so an extra ?60 more each

 

Grampa Spencers ticket was ?269 to move it's ?287

 

so perhaps not ?200 it's more like ?138

 

where in there is something for me to be happy about?

apparently, the north lower was less than half sold to STH in 07/08

 

FACT

 

ITK

 

etc, etc

Prices have remained unaltered for 3 years correct. My problem is not the actual price its the fact they have reduced the cost so much in NSL. Fine NSL will be full, but the rest of the ground will be empty, apart from kids who get in for ?50 for the whole season.

As previously mentioned by someone else, what have they done to entice me back at the same rate as last season? Last season we had european football for a start, this year looks like another season of avoiding relegation with that ginger muppet still in charge.

For the same price I paid last year, the ticket is no where near as attractive this season. Excellent effort in reducing the NSL, but why haven't they carried that through the rest of the ground? Its just another BWFC ticketing Fook up/master stroke to add to the list. They had all that time to get it right but they have not gone far enough in my opinion.

I will be waiting so see the quality of signings we make before I decide whether to renew or not. Every season I have rushed to get the extra 10% discount only for it to be extended when they realise they aint selling tickets. I expect similar this year.

agrere

apparently, the north lower was less than half sold to STH in 07/08

 

FACT

 

ITK

 

etc, etc

 

dunno bout ST sales but it was pretty empty most games especially in the NW corner, think it looked fuller as people were spread out

"Oh Mr Darcy", she gasped, "I feel faint, for I have here in my hands some terrible news, received but a few hours ago".

"What is it love?"

"It is a portfolio of the new prices for the upcoming opera season at Glynbourne. And you see, with Papa still hemmed in at Ladysmith, I really do not think I can afford to venture into the social circle this season. Either way it will be the ruin of me".

"Well for starters, why not come down the Dog and Bucket with me - the landlord's got it all on dodgy camera obscura. And as for your dad, well to be honest when he says he's been relieving Lady Smith for the last 6 months I think he's actually banging on about the old bint down at Rockwool Hall."

dunno bout ST sales but it was pretty empty most games especially in the NW corner, think it looked fuller as people were spread out

 

well now you do

 

less than 50% take up last season

well now you do

 

less than 50% take up last season

Would just like to say that if this is the case is this reduction a crafty plan to get the north stand full of ST holders, so that the people who pay for their tickets weekly will be forced to buy for the more expensive areas of the ground? .......just a thought like

dunno, but as it stands, the south stand will still be available

dunno, but as it stands, the south stand will still be available

Do you not think the club will give the south stand over to the visitors as they did a couple of games last season?

as i said, as it stands

 

if theres demand from the town for those seats, then the answer will be no

Do you not think the club will give the south stand over to the visitors as they did a couple of games last season?

 

and they have done for the 10 seasons the ground's been open.

What would you have done?

 

 

I really don't see why there has to be a difference in price between lower tier seats around the ground...you could argue from viewpoint where ever you sit....and probably more so with the upper tier...

 

i had my ST in the NSL for 6 years...so i kinda know the clientel that used to sit there...and was in there for the Euro games...it didn't work then irrelevant of what people say..

 

As said a lot earlier in the thread the revenue from ST is a small drop in the ocean compared to what the club receive from tv or the premiership...

 

it appears to me that very little thought has gone into trying to pacify or attract new support unless your 12 years old...which i applaud by the way...there may be a thought that a new kid at ?49 will possibly attract a new dad at ?409...??

 

The club seemed to have formed the opinion that not to increase ticket costs for the majority would be a winner and fans would go woopee do...from the reaction on this web site as a section it would seem not....no recognition for loyalty ?

 

I would of thought that reducing all areas of the ground by even a small ammount would of made more sense...you therfore are pleasing all the people not just say the 3000 that are or will be lucky enough to get a st in the NSL.

 

I would of thought a reduction to say ?349 for both WSL and ESL where there are more fans would of convinced many to renew...or take one up...

 

And also as pointed out....the football under Megson and no Euro games this year isn't as attractive as this time last year....when most were thinking that the Little Sam era would make a change from the dross that we were served up for the last 6 ish months under Alladyce...

 

What concerns me the most is that continually the club make a real hash of PR opportunities when they have the chance and are most critical...to assume that circa 75% of the support would be happy with a price fix which in "real terms" is a saving is ludicrous...the club for me are way out of touch yet again...

In reply to a couple of Bobcat's points, we would all love to be paying just over ?18 for premier league football in prime seats ESL and WSL, the likes of Bury charge not far short of that for a substandard level of football and facilities, in my opinion ?21.52 is a fair price to pay for premier league football, if like many on here you still think it is too expensive you have the cheap option of ?15.73 in the North stand lower, the only fault in this plan is the demand may outweigh supply, in that event the club should and probably will offer the SSL, people who don't think this is a bargain have clearly lost interest in football and I think whatever the club do would find some excuse not to go, finally I think Megson deserves a chance with a clean slate, we were under incredible pressure to dig our way out of trouble last year and this went some way to dictating the style of football we played, even so, after the arrival of the 3 players in January, we played a better style of football than we did under the last 6 months under Allardyce.

Edited June 3, 200818 yr by Mounts Kipper

I really don't see why there has to be a difference in price between lower tier seats around the ground...you could argue from viewpoint where ever you sit....and probably more so with the upper tier...

 

i had my ST in the NSL for 6 years...so i kinda know the clientel that used to sit there...and was in there for the Euro games...it didn't work then irrelevant of what people say..

 

As said a lot earlier in the thread the revenue from ST is a small drop in the ocean compared to what the club receive from tv or the premiership...

 

it appears to me that very little thought has gone into trying to pacify or attract new support unless your 12 years old...which i applaud by the way...there may be a thought that a new kid at ?49 will possibly attract a new dad at ?409...??

 

The club seemed to have formed the opinion that not to increase ticket costs for the majority would be a winner and fans would go woopee do...from the reaction on this web site as a section it would seem not....no recognition for loyalty ?

 

I would of thought that reducing all areas of the ground by even a small ammount would of made more sense...you therfore are pleasing all the people not just say the 3000 that are or will be lucky enough to get a st in the NSL.

 

I would of thought a reduction to say ?349 for both WSL and ESL where there are more fans would of convinced many to renew...or take one up...

 

And also as pointed out....the football under Megson and no Euro games this year isn't as attractive as this time last year....when most were thinking that the Little Sam era would make a change from the dross that we were served up for the last 6 ish months under Alladyce...

 

What concerns me the most is that continually the club make a real hash of PR opportunities when they have the chance and are most critical...to assume that circa 75% of the support would be happy with a price fix which in "real terms" is a saving is ludicrous...the club for me are way out of touch yet again...

 

my ticket will cost ?409 for 19 games so that is ?21.5 per game (ignoring the kids ticket for now)

 

 

that sounds like very good value, in the last 5-6 years the cost of watching the game has gone down.

 

it honestly does not bother me that there will 3000 people with tickets cheaper than me, as they will be sat somewhere i would rather not sit.

 

what i fail to see and anyone who is 'positive' about these prices has failed to answer is how will these prices lead to the ground being more than 75% full ?

 

i think the mistake the club have made is lumping all football fans together. say this was typical business and all our competitors had been seen to be increasign their prices, by holding ours or even cutting them we would gain an advantage and people would use us rather than them. the fact is that football clubs have to attract their own supporters not try to poach those of other clubs, there is significant support for bolton on the town, it is is the apathetic/disilusioned supporters we need to win back. last season was shocking highlighted by the disregard for the uefa cup. waht is the point of a team whose very pinnacle is to qulaify for europe but then does nt try ? it aint megsons fault the same attitude was there under FSA.

 

On the kids ticket i think the club has it right, it will cost me 450 for two, rather than maybe ?600. on this basis i am buying more than i would have, and eventually i might have stopped going myself. the lads enthuisiasm for the game and the fact him and chief wiggums lad can have a laugh together on way over makes it more enjoyable (Chief wiggums fully expensed company car helps as well !!). As i said before i think kids tickets shoudl be linked to a fmailt ticket offer to make sure a full price ticket is purchased but on the junior side i think anything to build the base for the future makes some sense.

 

half the south stand is used for away fans normally but the problme with tickets in there is when in say the fa cup you are meant to give away team a % of tickets. however other teams ignore this rule when it suits. or alternativley why not have a league game only ticket in there match the NSL price for both tiers, but make it very clear that this ticket does not get a seat for cup games ? you could then potentially fill an area of the ground that is currently alomst always empty.

In reply to a couple of Bobcat's reply, we would all love to be paying just over ?18 for premier league football in prime seats ESL and WSL, the likes of Bury charge not far short of that for a substandard level of football and facilities, in my opinion ?21.52 is a fair price to pay for premier league football, if like many on here you still think it is too expensive you have the cheap option of ?15.73 in the North stand lower, the only fault in this plan is the demand may outweigh supply, in that event the club should and probably will offer the SSL, people who don't think this is a bargain have clearly lost interest in football and I think whatever the club do would find some excuse not to go, finally I think Megson deserves a chance with a clean slate, we were under incredible pressure to dig our way out of trouble last year and this went some way to dictating the style of football we played, even so, after the arrival of the 3 players in January, we played a better style of football than we did under the last 6 months under Allardyce.

 

 

It's obvious that you have a strong opinion on this...and I don't really as nothing would ever tempt me back to football on a weekly basis (my opinion nobody else's)...

 

As I stated earlier both Wigan and Blackburn are offering season tickets less than ourselves...wigan's are i think ?254...both those teams were better than us last year if that has any relevance ...

 

You feel that ?21.52 is a fair price for football... that's fine...others don't...but in comparison to going watching boxing it's cheap...against RL it's expensive

 

on a daily basis where we are constantly being told that the country is going into recession and everything is rocketing up...I find it obscene that the club use comments of "in Real Terms" to try and justify their prices...whilst paying players more in a week than most earn in a year...(i know we have to, to maintain a level of acheivement)...but it's all out of sync...

 

I appreciate that you will never please all....but they should of least made the attempt to and in my opinion i don't think they have....

Edited June 3, 200818 yr by Bobcat

To be premier league club you need to have premier league support and supporters, sadly we fail on that front and threads like this really highlight it.

You also need premier league decision makers, reading the last 7 pages, I dont think we have that.

Edited June 3, 200818 yr by Horwich

To be premier league club you need to have premier league support and supporters, sadly we fail on that front and threads like this really highlight it.

 

whilst I agree with your post prior to this, statements like that, are b?ll?cks and normally reserved for fans who support the likes of West Ham

whilst I agree with your post prior to this, statements like that, are b?ll?cks and normally reserved for fans who support the likes of West Ham

I agree, Bolton, Blackburn, Wigan and Fulham have all shown in recent years that a club can sustain it's place in the Premier League with p?ss poor levels of support

To be premier league club you need to have premier league support and supporters, sadly we fail on that front and threads like this really highlight it.

What is this magical 'Premier League Support' you speak of? Without checking any facts (why let facts get in the way of a good discussion?) I'm sure less than 50% of premier leauge clubs fail to sell out week in week out.

Bolton does have a decent fan base for the size of the town, maybe the club are just unable to tap into it in the best way. People like Bobcat who support the team, but even a 300 quid season ticket cannot convince him to return.

For me its not about the price, I have to look at the clubs ambition as I stated above. If they show some ambition in the summer I will happily hand over my hard earned cash to sit in what ever stand I prefer.

If they show some ambition in the summer I will happily hand over my hard earned cash to sit in what ever stand I prefer.

Can you qualify that?

 

I hear a lot of people saying they want the club to show ambition. What would "show ambition" in your eyes?

Can you qualify that?

 

I hear a lot of people saying they want the club to show ambition. What would "show ambition" in your eyes?

 

indeed do the signings in january show a lack of ambition?

 

or should we be signing everyone on traf's list?