Winchester White Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 Sorry thats wrong ,its 5% on ground/taxing, 12% during takoff, 13 % climbing to altitude, 6% en route, 16% Descent and approach and the big one 45% landing. Source : boeing, www.planecrashinfo.com Fair enough, but I was mainly talking of things going wrong with the plane not pilot error. The take-off and initial climb puts the most strain on the engines and airframe, so this is when faults are much more likely to occur. Sure there are plenty of crashes during landing but most are due to an undercarriage failure or sticking flaps which normally doesn't result in a nasty fireball. Providing the weather is ok, the chances of kicking the bucket in a landing plane is minute. However, if you have some stupid bravado pilot who thinks he can land in the middle gale force cross-winds and on an icy runway then you might well be fooked.
HR Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 I once ferted at passport control at Newark and I swear the guy checking my passport wanted to shoot me. Funnily enough I never heard that mode of turbulance discussed on Newsnight.
Smiffs Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 Was a woman from Grimsby on the radio and whose hubby was on the flight. she keeps calling him on his mobile and it's ringing. I'd say that means the plane . . . or at least the phone; isn't under a mile of salt water. Its quite obvious he's shagging a brass in Rio. smiffs Columbo has fuck all on me.
M G WHITES Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 How do planes stay in the air? Airplanes stay up in the air because of the aerodynamic force referred to as lift. Hth
tyldesley_white Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 Fair enough, but I was mainly talking of things going wrong with the plane not pilot error. The take-off and initial climb puts the most strain on the engines and airframe, so this is when faults are much more likely to occur. Sure there are plenty of crashes during landing but most are due to an undercarriage failure or sticking flaps which normally doesn't result in a nasty fireball. Providing the weather is ok, the chances of kicking the bucket in a landing plane is minute. However, if you have some stupid bravado pilot who thinks he can land in the middle gale force cross-winds and on an icy runway then you might well be fooked. That?s what coming into the old Oslo airport used to like, reminded me of the film 633 squadron, coming down the bloody fiord at tree top height watching the snow whistle pass outside the window I?m glad I was normally 3 sheets to the wind
Spider Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 Still, as one of the well heeled types who is always at the front, I have the pleasure of knowing that even if the jet I was on was plummeting towards the earth in a cataclysmic fireball, that as I'd paid for a better seat I'd die fractionally faster and thus be first to the bar at the Jesus Arms.
SatanGreavsie Posted June 2, 2009 Posted June 2, 2009 That debris Flotsam or Jetsam? Satan's handy guide
cureforsanity Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 Now I'm not one for gossip like (well, mebbe a bit) but I'm aware that one of our number, shall we call him Large vowel?, used to have summat to do with these airbuses things, specifically the wings. He once codged a sofabed together at our new house and only used 2 screws to hold the whole shebang together where the destructions said 6 were required. Yes, it is still in one piece, but think about it. He's now done a runner and is robbing a living with a clipboard at BAE in Wharton. I think we should be told, and never set foot on an airbus again. Well, at least any with wings attached.
The Norpig Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 Still, as one of the well heeled types who is always at the front, I have the pleasure of knowing that even if the jet I was on was plummeting towards the earth in a cataclysmic fireball, that as I'd paid for a better seat I'd die fractionally faster and thus be first to the bar at the Jesus Arms. You should sit at the back, planes don't reverse into mountains.
no balls Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 Still, as one of the well heeled types who is always at the front, I have the pleasure of knowing that even if the jet I was on was plummeting towards the earth in a cataclysmic fireball, that as I'd paid for a better seat I'd die fractionally faster and thus be first to the bar at the Jesus Arms. And we don't have to wear those pesky seatbelts thus ensuring we'll go flying forward on impact = instant death. I reckon Jesus'll bar me though, the bloody dogooder!
The Norpig Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVmRXAPeN-0 Fooking nice one superjohnmcginlay! Watched that clip then noticed the date in the bottom right hand corner. I fly to Rhodes on 24th June.
superjohnmcginlay Posted June 3, 2009 Posted June 3, 2009 Fooking nice one superjohnmcginlay! Watched that clip then noticed the date in the bottom right hand corner. I fly to Rhodes on 24th June. Sorry pal, your not travelling on a B-52 so you should be ok, then again
Guest squidgy66 Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 Call me old fashioned, but how can you lose a plane? 'Tis a great big thing tha noze. It's like being in your front room and saying you'd lost your couch When I worked at Heathrow I once walked into the engine on a Boeing 767 because I didn't see it. I was off work with concussion for days
Widnes Two Hats Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 When I worked at Heathrow I once walked into the engine on a Boeing 767 because I didn't see it. I was off work with concussion for days concussion eh Well I never Perhaps I did just never met somebody who was such a simpleton
Guest squidgy66 Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 concussion eh Well I never Perhaps I did just never met somebody who was such a simpleton How dare you sir!!
Guest Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) Satan's handy guide If Carling did clairification Edited June 4, 2009 by boltondiver
Guest bwfcdan Posted June 4, 2009 Posted June 4, 2009 They seem to think it was a bomb that brought it down because the debris is so far apart and according to AirFrance they recieved a phone call 4 days earlier saying there will be a bomb on a plane from Beunos Aires to Paris. Another video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zuLP-QYiy0...feature=related
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