since we are hearing a demonstration will still happen tomorrow....

 

is an anti gartside campain an anti eddie davies campaign?

 

imo, it is

 

anybody else have an opinion or even care

 

it may, of course, be that you think eddie davies saying fcuk it would be good for bwfc

 

to think that i suppose youd have to be confident we can get 160 million together by 2025

Except Coyle

Took a gamble but potted him as soon as he realised how shit he is

Took a gamble but potted him as soon as he realised how shit he is

Wasn't a gamble was it? He only needed to see what happened here. Just a terrible decision. They are paying for it now just like we are.

Rosler's time at Wigan is starting to look like mirroring Freedman's first season with us

Rosler's time at Wigan is starting to look like mirroring Freedman's first season with us

 

agree with this

 

which reminds me, really relly don't want dave jones

 

check the upturn in form after he's gone at every club he's been at, absolutely incredible

On that note, let's get Dave Jones in on a 3 month contract then! We are staying up, say we are staying up.

have people seen the hilary devey tweets?

 

someone asked if she had ever considered buying bwfc, she replied with "yes considering it. !!!!!xoxo"

 

later tweeted "i would love to take my team to the top again. xoxo" in responce to hilary for chairlady

Edited October 5, 201411 yr by Werder barmen

On that note, let's get Dave Jones in on a 3 month contract then! We are staying up, say we are staying up.

 

Good with the kids, allegedly.

have people seen the hilary devey tweets?

 

someone asked if she had ever considered buying bwfc, she replied with "yes considering it. !!!!!xoxo"

 

later tweeted "i would love to take my team to the top again. xoxo" in responce to hilary for chairlady

Never liked her since she nicked all those Dalmatians.

From the Dragon's Den to the vipers nest.........

one thing I did notice about the protest..

 

 

most were too young to remember pre-reebok days...

 

I'm not sure where the Gartside out argument comes from,

 

bad appointments.. We were lucky with BSA, last 20 years we haven't had a "big name" manager come in, we simply cant afford one we aren't a big name club and cant justify the wage bill and transfer fee's these managers want to have.. We managed it with BSA, but trying the same with Sammy Lee and Megson led to our ultimate demise. On the contrary, had ED PG forseen this decline, and refused to allow GM and SL this money ( as they had to rein in BSA), would we have been relegated sooner ?

Coyle was an up and coming manager, as was Freedman, Nearly every fan was happy with coyle, and most (some underwhelmed) by DF who had worked wonders at Crystal Palace. Megson wasn't a terrible appointment, it made sense to have a proven manager, but he had the fans hating him...and Sammy Lee was living in BSA's shadow..

Other clubs have had successive bad managers, the only difference is that we have given them a decent amount of time, as is only fair.

 

Money wise, the accounts are clear to see, we were geared up for premiership without a decent plan B, We're "in debt" to the owner and no other club has ever counted this as debt. We're expanding the Middlebrook complex and have heavily invested in the Free school, which will help promote our academy (GOv talks to allow Free Schools to be profit making can only be a good thing going forward). We simply don't have the set up to be a self sustained Premiership team.

 

The debts there and we have to chip away at it, the financial constraints are in place so we cant buy any luxury players. I have the impression that DF abused these constraints with his loan system (we still have to pay loan wages), and that his method of getting loads of mediocre squad players and using them in a rotation system would have been utilised better with some quality championship players and utilising the youth system, which by all accounts he has tired to destroy and mainly ignored. DF has brought in his own deadwood to replace the old "deadwood", and the next manager now has the job of sorting through these. Beckford Trotter, Spearing, Moxey and Medo will become DF's version of Mears, Eagles, Andrews, Sordell......

 

we might get lucky and get promoted but I think a lot of fans have to accept, its bad luck on the appointments and we're down here for a scrap.

Very well summed up.

I accept gartside may have been a part of our most successful era but when we hear a 'fan' who is taking so much out of the club a season and reminding us how much debt we are in it does anger me. We will never ever know what really happened when big Sam left but with his performance he never seemed to be backed sufficiently. People say forget them days they have gone but if we replaced Sam with a good enough manager I don't think we'd be here

I accept gartside may have been a part of our most successful era but when we hear a 'fan' who is taking so much out of the club a season and reminding us how much debt we are in it does anger me. We will never ever know what really happened when big Sam left but with his performance he never seemed to be backed sufficiently. People say forget them days they have gone but if we replaced Sam with a good enough manager I don't think we'd be here

I accept gartside may have been a part of our most successful era but when we hear a 'fan' who is taking so much out of the club a season and reminding us how much debt we are in it does anger me. We will never ever know what really happened when big Sam left but with his performance he never seemed to be backed sufficiently. People say forget them days they have gone but if we replaced Sam with a good enough manager I don't think we'd be here

Ffs taking so much out of the club? Its his salary.

Didnt back Sam sufficiently? Eddie dug his own cash out to pay for Anelka.

Ffs taking so much out of the club? Its his salary.

Didnt back Sam sufficiently? Eddie dug his own cash out to pay for Anelka.

And Diouf....

 

It is also not like we paid Campo and Okocha etc in buttons.

 

Gartside is appointing managers in a division where Freedman was the second longest serving manager. It's easy to say how bad a job Gartside has done and there are things to criticise legitimately. But it isn't like there are loads of clubs where they get good long term managers in this league. The most likely outcome of a managerial appointment is they will be sacked within 2 years.

 

The only man who could almost guarantee us success is Eddie. If he chose to or was able to we could within 5 years be a premiership side almost guaranteed. But that isn't happening so we need to hope that any new manager can work miracles on ever decreasing budgets. Facts say that the vast majority cannot do that.

Ffs taking so much out of the club? Its his salary.

Didnt back Sam sufficiently? Eddie dug his own cash out to pay for Anelka.

Anelka money was a loan from Eddie, and he took all of the money we got from him back plus the interest so lets not make out he just gave him to us with his loose change.

Edited October 6, 201411 yr by hughmungus

Anelka money was a loan from Eddie, and he took all of the money we got from him back plus the interest so lets not make out he just gave him to us with his loose change.

 

Yes of course. That is why the money owed to Eddie hasn't gone up since we sold Anelka......

 

We spent the Anelka money in the same window he left on Taylor, Steinsson and Cahill. Then Eddie gave more money to sign Elmander and Muamba in the next window. It is an absolute nonsense to make out he just pocketed the money from the sale.

Anelka money was a loan from Eddie, and he took all of the money we got from him back plus the interest so lets not make out he just gave him to us with his loose change.

He intended to keep the initial investment plus a fee. In the end though most went back into other players.

Interesting old article....

 

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2007/nov/07/twentyquestionsforboltonma

More dirt on gartside shocker

More dirt on gartside shocker

 

Same dirt, old article, mate.

I'm glad we waited all this time to hear from Gartside. Apparently it was the shit we gave DF that forced the issue...not the two consective worst starts to a season in 110 years. And there's a lot of "unfinished business" for the new guy to do. So it sounds like he was generally happy with the job he did...oh apart from the taking us to the bottom of the league bit. No admission of any failings on his own part of course. Crisis? What crisis?

Same dirt, old article, mate.

 

Don't bring facts into it Traf. Luckily the folk who are unhappy with PG will have protested Saturday....unless of course they are full of shit.

Can I just point out that newspaper articles have a date on them, usually at the top. It's worth checking this to save making yourself look thick as fucker.

 

Newspaper websites aren't like a papershop where you go in and get today's edition.

Can I just point out that newspaper articles have a date on them, usually at the top. It's worth checking this to save making yourself look thick as fucker.

 

Newspaper websites aren't like a papershop where you go in and get today's edition.

It'd be a first for anewman siding with the guardian though.

So Gartside's in no mood to build any bridges with the fans going off that aticle in BN today. Unless other comments have been left out to be shown in full in the print version, I'm astounded he's cited fans' treament of Freedman as the reason he sacked him rather than the fact we're bottom and shit.