Members bolty58 Posted May 26, 2022 Members Posted May 26, 2022 5 hours ago, Pablo said: How on earth can it be that competative when the top 2 are getting 90+ points ?? That says NO competition at all. As others have said, Bayern win virtually everything every year in Germany. It was only really a 3 way fight in Italy for a long time so one more than the PL. Madrid seemed to have it sewn up well before the seasons end in Spain. I think you're influenced by the shadow cast across Stanley Park. Yes we have a City and Liverpool fight at the moment but I suggest that it would be unwise to think this will be year in, year out. Spurs are on the rise as are the Geordies and Boehly and Co. won't be fucking about at Chelsea. The weight of money won't just be in the hands of two clubs and that will stir things up a bit I suspect. Not sure that Howe can mix it with the likes of Tuchel, Klopp, Guardiola and Conte mind but time will tell. Quote
Moderators Casino Posted May 26, 2022 Moderators Posted May 26, 2022 Will people stop going on about the glory days of the european cup when it was just for champions For the romantics, i get champions only was as it should be, but fuck me, second in england or spain or some shite from luxembourg losing by 11 to liverpool I dont like the format as its skewed towards the better teams, but fuck me, its harder to win than it was And bolty is reet, for once All sorts of shit qualified for the CWC Didnt mean it wasnt an exciting, respected competition Quote
Pablo Posted May 26, 2022 Posted May 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I was only talking about English clubs. Don't really know enough about foreign ones. Not sure about snobbery, it's a financial concern for a lot of clubs that the prem has to be the be all and end all. Which again points to too many average teams being in Europe. Nah, it points to clubs prioritising money over actual pots n pans. 2/3 prem places is worth good money, so those that run the clubs push that as priority…. Quote
Pablo Posted May 26, 2022 Posted May 26, 2022 1 hour ago, bolty58 said: As others have said, Bayern win virtually everything every year in Germany. It was only really a 3 way fight in Italy for a long time so one more than the PL. Madrid seemed to have it sewn up well before the seasons end in Spain. I think you're influenced by the shadow cast across Stanley Park. Yes we have a City and Liverpool fight at the moment but I suggest that it would be unwise to think this will be year in, year out. Spurs are on the rise as are the Geordies and Boehly and Co. won't be fucking about at Chelsea. The weight of money won't just be in the hands of two clubs and that will stir things up a bit I suspect. Not sure that Howe can mix it with the likes of Tuchel, Klopp, Guardiola and Conte mind but time will tell. The top team in a league sways ppls thoughts on an over-all league. Just cos city are one of the best teams ever, doesn't make the league the best. the quality of football and standard of games in the prem is poor imo, its kick n rush compared to other leagues…. Quote
Members bolty58 Posted May 27, 2022 Members Posted May 27, 2022 7 hours ago, Pablo said: The top team in a league sways ppls thoughts on an over-all league. Just cos city are one of the best teams ever, doesn't make the league the best. the quality of football and standard of games in the prem is poor imo, its kick n rush compared to other leagues…. The key part. Rather than 'kick and rush' I would use the term 'high pace, high energy'. It's what has shebeens in Guguletu and opium dens in Afghanistan packed out at game times. It is also what has caused tens of millions of replica shirts to be regularly on show in China. 'Kick and rush' does it a massive disservice. Quote
gonzo Posted May 27, 2022 Posted May 27, 2022 Kick and Rush Theres English teams in every European Final every single season, not just the top 2. Teams like Brentford and Brighton in midtable dont play kick and rush ffs. Look at the signings Villa have made, they will struggle to get near top 6 given how strong the league is. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted May 27, 2022 Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, gonzo said: Kick and Rush Theres English teams in every European Final every single season, not just the top 2. Teams like Brentford and Brighton in midtable dont play kick and rush ffs. Look at the signings Villa have made, they will struggle to get near top 6 given how strong the league is. Liverpool are nearer to kick & rush than Brighton. For me Liverpool are the most entertaining team in the premier league. Edited May 27, 2022 by Mounts Kipper Quote
Pablo Posted May 27, 2022 Posted May 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, bolty58 said: The key part. Rather than 'kick and rush' I would use the term 'high pace, high energy'. It's what has shebeens in Guguletu and opium dens in Afghanistan packed out at game times. It is also what has caused tens of millions of replica shirts to be regularly on show in China. 'Kick and rush' does it a massive disservice. Of course its all about opinions. And what do we mean by ‘best’ is is most entertaining, or technically the best??!! suppose they are different questions Its corrupt as fuck Edited May 27, 2022 by Pablo Quote
tomski Posted May 27, 2022 Posted May 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Pablo said: Of course its all about opinions. And what do we mean by ‘best’ is is most entertaining, or technically the best??!! suppose they are different questions Its corrupt as fuck That can’t be argued surely. The simple fact is ‘the big 6’ (laughable on its own merits) we’re fined a couple of quid for resigning from the league. Quote
Pablo Posted May 27, 2022 Posted May 27, 2022 12 minutes ago, Zico said: This is ace tbh, and the funny irony is this is exactly have most LFC fans follow em!! Quote
L/H White Posted May 27, 2022 Posted May 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: Liverpool are nearer to kick & rush than Brighton. For me Liverpool are the most entertaining team in the premier league. Most sensible thing you've said in about 5 years on this forum x Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted May 27, 2022 Posted May 27, 2022 56 minutes ago, L/H White said: Most sensible thing you've said in about 5 years on this forum x You don't know what sensible is. x Quote
Mantra Posted May 27, 2022 Posted May 27, 2022 Liverpool aren't as high intensity as they used to be in Klopp's first couple of years. They were really manic there, every game was like a basketball match and it was unsustainable. They play much more considered now against most teams who just sit back but when they play a team that are willing to attack them, they can up the tempo again. I have a mate who is a Liverpool fan and he said the football they played in the season where they finished one point behind City was the best football he'd ever seen. Whereas now they're more possession-based a lot of the time. Quote
Dr. Feelgood Posted May 27, 2022 Posted May 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mantra said: I have a mate who is a Liverpool fan ... Why ?? Quote
Mantra Posted May 27, 2022 Posted May 27, 2022 54 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: Why ?? haha I worked with him, he's sound, came with me to see Bolton smash Sunlun 6-0 Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 27, 2022 Site Supporter Posted May 27, 2022 17 hours ago, Casino said: Will people stop going on about the glory days of the european cup when it was just for champions For the romantics, i get champions only was as it should be, but fuck me, second in england or spain or some shite from luxembourg losing by 11 to liverpool I dont like the format as its skewed towards the better teams, but fuck me, its harder to win than it was And bolty is reet, for once All sorts of shit qualified for the CWC Didnt mean it wasnt an exciting, respected competition Disagree. Champs league is dull as anything early on. The mini leagues make it more unlikely that a smaller club progresses via a couple of giant killing wins like a straight knock out. Tedious. Quote
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted May 28, 2022 Site Supporter Posted May 28, 2022 How heart warming Quote
Marc505 Posted May 28, 2022 Posted May 28, 2022 55 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said: Fuming 😂 Ace that, its like the Ipswich play off final scam times 1000 Quote
e2e4 Posted May 28, 2022 Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) ..... send her victorious. god save the queen. why dont they just get on a coach meant for real madrid fans ? Edited May 28, 2022 by e2e4 typos Quote
bolton va va Posted May 28, 2022 Posted May 28, 2022 1 hour ago, wanderer1984 said: Fuming 😂 Ha ha, One of the replies....." you should go back & wait there for a few hours tomorrow, they might have got the wrong day " Quote
Mantra Posted May 28, 2022 Posted May 28, 2022 All the English pundits seem to be predicting Liverpool. I think Madrid are going to win this. Spurs did a great counter attack job on them and Real will probably do a similar tactic but with better players. Quote
Ani Posted May 28, 2022 Posted May 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Mantra said: All the English pundits seem to be predicting Liverpool. I think Madrid are going to win this. Spurs did a great counter attack job on them and Real will probably do a similar tactic but with better players. Very little to separate City and Liverpool so given Real beat City you would think points to Real...but in the first leg City should have killed them off and in second Real did not have a shot on goal in first 90. I think scousers win by 2 goals at least. Quote
Mantra Posted May 28, 2022 Posted May 28, 2022 14 minutes ago, Ani said: Very little to separate City and Liverpool so given Real beat City you would think points to Real...but in the first leg City should have killed them off and in second Real did not have a shot on goal in first 90. I think scousers win by 2 goals at least. They should win by two goals at least, they have the better team. But Real have unbelievable individuals that are a match for all of Liverpools squad. Not that arsed who wins just hoping for entertainment as last 3 CL finals have been dreadful Quote
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