July 29Jul 29 Just now, only1swanny said:I'd wager it's along the lines of"If I can't get Kenny and you can improve your fitness, then you'll do"..I just find it hard to believe a team would involve a player so much just to help them find a new club..I thought he'd be signing for us, but then I also thought if he was signing for us he'd probably have started last night
July 29Jul 29 Just now, Zico said:by playing he's also putting himself at risk of injury when he doesn't have a contractadding to the baffling nature. PFA have a team for players with no club. Can only assume SS is keeping him close in case he doesn't get who he wants
July 29Jul 29 2 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:Why, out of interest?I think he could develop into a good player given the chance sometimes I don’t see the value of constantly loaning out players .Unfortunately don’t think SS rates him!
July 29Jul 29 Just now, masi 51 said:Yet you clamour for players who simply are not good enough to start.What are you blabbering on about, we literally, about a week ago, agreed, that the starting 11 for Preston is becoming clear to see. And to repeat, I’ve consistently said, as it stands, it’s short of Championship depth, in particular up front and out wide.I’ve also consistently said that these key transfers will happen later in the transfer window.You’re talking without listening.All a big false deflection because you came out with a controversial claim that you hope 10 of our current squad leave.
July 29Jul 29 10 minutes ago, Krimzon said:Nope , me too . Looks the next one most likely to step up .I dont want him playing B team football he needs to play league Football from now on in.Have a recall clause because it is not if but when our centre backs are out injured.
July 29Jul 29 2 minutes ago, desperado said:What are you blabbering on about, we literally, about a week ago, agreed, that the starting 11 for Preston is becoming clear to see.And to repeat, I’ve consistently said, as it stands, it’s short of Championship depth, in particular up front and out wide.I’ve also consistently said that these key transfers will happen later in the transfer window.You’re talking without listening.All a big false deflection because you came out with a controversial claim that you hope 10 of our current squad leave.No i said i can practically name 8/9 players that will start against Preston and they mainly were the players you mentioned. Hopefully that will be reduced come the 1st Sep.....Out of those ten players i named can you see any of them starting more than ten games because if you can it is going to be one long hard winter. And some of those players i named can go on and have a great career at Bolton but they are not ready for the Championship this season
July 29Jul 29 Just now, masi 51 said:No i said i can practically name 8/9 players that will start against Preston and they mainly were the players you mentioned. Hopefully that will be reduced come the 1st Sep.....Out of those ten players i named can you see any of them starting more than ten games because if you can it is going to be one long hard winter. And some of those players i named can go on and have a great career at Bolton but they are not ready for the Championship this season.It is you who does not listen, leaving the club this window does not mean they have no future
July 29Jul 29 1 hour ago, Rizlar said:Am I the only 1 who would keep Inwood ?No. Certainly not.I would like to see him here and develop.Of course SS will have his own thoughts on that, but I'd like us to make a success of bringing young talent through. I find it remarkable that some of these young players, who haven't yet played a game (or very few) are deemed not good enough. They might not be, and in the fullness if time they may be moved on.Without being able to see their development within the club, it is total folly to automatically dismiss them. Quite disrespectful too.
July 29Jul 29 1 hour ago, masi 51 said:Three keepers loaned.... Warren, Inwood, Temple, Christie Loaned.....Randall sold/loaned Mcatee, Simons and Toal offers invited. Dong.....This years TaylorThere you are that is 12That's 5 first teamers to be replaced. The general consensus is we need about 4 players as things stand, we don't have long to sign another 9 of the required standard! And that would be 15 new signings to be bedded into the first team squad.McAtee, Simons, Toal, Christie and obviously Dong are going nowhere in August.
July 29Jul 29 5 minutes ago, masi 51 said: 3 minutes ago, masi 51 said: No i said i can practically name 8/9 players that will start against Preston and they mainly were the players you mentioned. Hopefully that will be reduced come the 1st Sep.....Out of those ten players i named can you see any of them starting more than ten games because if you can it is going to be one long hard winter. And some of those players i named can go on and have a great career at Bolton but they are not ready for the Championship this season.I thought 10-12 players was excessive, so I pulled you up.You went on to make things up:I’m not clamouring for any players to start at the moment.I’ve not said we have brought in our main targets this season.And if you’d listened you’d know this.I talked about 8 at a stretch, but that is very dependent on at least 5/6 newbies.Will the 4 who I think will stay play more than 10 games each?Maybe, maybe not, it’s not clear cut at the moment.Simons could very well start against Preston, so there’s no way he’s going anywhere in the near future. Edited July 29Jul 29 by desperado
July 29Jul 29 6 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:That's 5 first teamers to be replaced. The general consensus is we need about 4 players as things stand, we don't have long to sign another 9 of the required standard! And that would be 15 new signings to be bedded into the first team squad.McAtee, Simons, Toal, Christie and obviously Dong are going nowhere in August.I am not saying they are going anywhere but i am saying those five are not Championship standard. McAtee i would rather keep if we dont get a fee. 2o mins from the bench. Toal regressed last season lost a yard not Championship Standard Simons may get a start against Preston but only until Erhahon returns. Christie again another who you will get 20 from the bench maximum. Dong certainly not ready for the Championship for numerous reasons.Those players are certainly no better than the players we released.....They are 5 squad members at best
July 29Jul 29 6 minutes ago, desperado said:I thought 10-12 players was excessive, so I pulled you up.You went on to make things up:I’m not clamouring for any players to start at the moment.I’ve not said we have brought in our main targets this season.And if you’d listened you’d know this.I talked about 8 at a stretch, but that is very dependent on at least 5/6 newbies.Will the 4 who I think will stay play more than 10 games each?Maybe, maybe not, it’s not clear cut at the moment.Simons could very well start against Preston, so there’s no way he’s going anywhere in the near future.Simons will start. Erhahon is injured.... 8 at a stretch you named 3 keepers and 3 who are kids and will almost certainly be loaned out your 7th was Randall who has been told that he is not in SS plans.....McAtee is the only one that you would not keep out of all the first team squad...That will get you relegated
July 29Jul 29 3 minutes ago, masi 51 said:Simons will start. Erhahon is injured.... 8 at a stretch you named 3 keepers and 3 who are kids and will almost certainly be loaned out your 7th was Randall who has been told that he is not in SS plans.....McAtee is the only one that you would not keep out of all the first team squad...That will get you relegated… Not if the 5/6 replacements are of the quality we hope they are going to be.The defence and midfield recruitment isn’t far off being done - maybe another midfielder (hopefully a quality 10) and a CB.Then it’s all about the forwards and wide players we bring in.I’ve still not worked you out well enough to know whether this is what you want to hear or not.But if you choose to see it, I’m actually in agreement (as you are with me 😊) with a lot of the stuff you subsequently come out with after your initial controversial claim.That’s all I was picking you up on.That doesn’t translate into some of the falsities you claimed I’d said.You hoped at least ten of our players wouldn’t be here by Sep 1stSo I was merely pointing out that the likelihood is you’ll be disappointed.Getting a bit boring now.Night 😘
July 30Jul 30 5 hours ago, masi 51 said:I dont want him playing B team football he needs to play league Football from now on in.Have a recall clause because it is not if but when our centre backs are out injured.I see your point and if we get another CB in (which I think we need ) then Id be OK with him going on loan in Lg 1 or 2 . if we dont then I think he should be next in line to fill in . However he is still only 20 , I thought he was a little older , another 20-25 first team games should be really good for him .
July 30Jul 30 Popular Post Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:It's doomed I tell ya! 😀Yeah but at least we can discuss actual football that’s happening on the pitch that’s doomed, instead of finance and transfer policy guesswork that’s repeatedly argued as fact 😴
July 30Jul 30 3 hours ago, Krimzon said:I see your point and if we get another CB in (which I think we need ) then Id be OK with him going on loan in Lg 1 or 2 . if we dont then I think he should be next in line to fill in . However he is still only 20 , I thought he was a little older , another 20-25 first team games should be really good for him .3 hours ago, Krimzon said:I see your point and if we get another CB in (which I think we need ) then Id be OK with him going on loan in Lg 1 or 2 . if we dont then I think he should be next in line to fill in . However he is still only 20 , I thought he was a little older , another 20-25 first team games should be really good for him .Correct...Inwood i believe has a big future but he needs league football at the same time.Our three senior centre backs are very injury prone [Toal, Foirino and Davies] Would be looking to move Toal on and add two more Centre backs which would allow Inwood and Temple to move on.If we do not move Toal on and bring no other centre backs in those three Will be injured at some point before Christmas and we will be throwing Inwood and Temple in when they are not ready.Barmpots on here are saying get rid of nobody and bring 4/5 in. Those 4/5 are going to have to be special for us to survive
July 30Jul 30 27 minutes ago, masi 51 said:Barmpots on here are saying get rid of nobody and bring 4/5 in🤣Who are they then?
July 30Jul 30 14 minutes ago, desperado said:🤣Who are they then?15 minutes ago, desperado said:🤣Who are they then?Not a fucking chance!!!!!
July 30Jul 30 1 minute ago, masi 51 said:Not a fucking chance!!!!!Another false claim then. Glad you spotted this one early to save the back and forth 👍
July 30Jul 30 Aye keep it for the transfer rumours eh.........Barmpots active again Will KeaneThey must have run out of windows to lick
July 30Jul 30 I know we have our concerns, but this doom is so unnecessary. Time to go for signings and outs, but whatever happens, we have to be positive.
July 30Jul 30 20 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:I know we have our concerns, but this doom is so unnecessary.Time to go for signings and outs, but whatever happens, we have to be positive.I think my biggest concern is we have quite a favorable fixture list to start the season and it is worrying that any new signings from this point aren't going to be at all up to speed in time for some of these "easier" games to get us off to a good start.It might well be that some of our bigger or better signings won't be made until right up to the deadline as players become available, but that would lead to them immediately having to face Millwall away and then West Ham at home. It's certainly not ideal.
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