(That long since we've had any, couldn't find the thread)

Alan Nixon: "Top Liverpool starlet Cameron Branagan will Ben allowed out on loan in Jan.

Bolton lead the race for the 20 year old midfielder"

Edited December 11, 20169 yr by Ratwhite

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Really?

Given the rigidity you correctly identify, I'd say its less likely we would find a ready made replacement.

Incoming strikers so far haven't always set the world alight, and have had to adapt.

That notwithstanding, its still a hell of a gamble for a relatively small profit.

Yes, really

Our squad is very well drilled, they know the patterns of play like the back of their hand, where to position themselves in and out of possession, how the opposition are likely to react, etc.

All of the above will only be of benefit to a good forward

24 minutes ago, tomski said:

It’s fairly straight forward pal. I’m saying we could negotiate a decent fee if we tried. I include selling Dapo for less than buying Victor as a point of reference too.

We may have.

Ultimately, if that's an offer they were happy with then that is all that matters.

It may also be a bit of an assumption to say Thomason was going to be an immediate replacement. They may have had plans to bring him on, and use others in the meantime. The beginning of the season, when squads are being built.

Which goes back to the point I made above; we're at a very different stage, with no real time to embed any replacement for Charles. Together with no financial need to sell him.

Therefore we can be a bit more demanding. 

If we were midtable, then it's a different matter.

1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Yes, really

Our squad is very well drilled, they know the patterns of play like the back of their hand, where to position themselves in and out of possession, how the opposition are likely to react, etc.

All of the above will only be of benefit to a good forward

Assuming he's played in a similar set up before. 

We've had this style and identity for some time, and maybe with the exception of Charles himself and also Dacres Cogley, none have been instant shoe ins. All have worked their way in.

We have almost no regular players in their final year of contract.

We are not aware of any of those players agitating for a move.

We are at a stage where we can decline low offers.

We would be tempted for high offers. Obviously 'high' & 'low' are subjective.

We should not sell a leading player whilst placed 2nd innour league unless the fee is clearly exceptional ... even then unless there's an available, adequate replacement. 

 

7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Assuming he's played in a similar set up before. 

We've had this style and identity for some time, and maybe with the exception of Charles himself and also Dacres Cogley, none have been instant shoe ins. All have worked their way in.

I doubt we'd be bothering if he hadn't

45 minutes ago, tomski said:

It’s fairly straight forward pal. I’m saying we could negotiate a decent fee if we tried. I include selling Dapo for less than buying Victor as a point of reference too.

Victor was one of the top scorers in our division tbf. Regardless of how hes faired.

Nobody offered any more for Dapo and needed to be sold pronto.

It's all relative.

7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Victor was one of the top scorers in our division tbf. Regardless of how hes faired.

Nobody offered any more for Dapo and needed to be sold pronto.

It's all relative.

Exactly. Lots of factors that are different now, and in our favour.

Dapo wanted out too.

 

48 minutes ago, Casino said:

They were willing to sell

A leap to say they wanted to

Eh? 

If they didn't want to sell they say no

They said yes 

That's no leap

I think the comparisons with Thomason are pointless.

At the time around £1m looked like a good deal for us. The club obviously thought so too. Thankfully Thomason didn't want to go and has flourished since. He's worth much, much more now and I'm sure the owners and Evatt are relieved Thomason rejected the move.

 

Just now, Zico said:

Eh? 

If they didn't want to sell they say no

They said yes 

That's no leap

Dunno Id say wanted would be openly touting the player out and wanting them off the books. Bit like Dapo.

Willing is if a club offers a cash deal to good to turn down and wont stand in the players way.

If whoever bid 5m for Dion and we accept it doesnt mean we want to sell.

If the club receive an offer for Charles then it's a huge call for them whether to accept it or not as currently he's massively important to us.

At the time, Thomason wasn't.

 

Anyone asked after Bradley ? 

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Dunno Id say wanted would be openly touting the player out and wanting them off the books. Bit like Dapo.

Willing is if a club offers a cash deal to good to turn down and wont stand in the players way.

I think there's a difference between wanting to sell a player because you want to see the back of them, and wanting to sell a player because you've just been made a good offer

And it was a good offer at the time

8 minutes ago, Zico said:

Eh? 

If they didn't want to sell they say no

They said yes 

That's no leap

Haha. It seems it is.

9 minutes ago, DazBob said:

I think the comparisons with Thomason are pointless.

At the time around £1m looked like a good deal for us. The club obviously thought so too. Thankfully Thomason didn't want to go and has flourished since. He's worth much, much more now and I'm sure the owners and Evatt are relieved Thomason rejected the move.

 

Didn’t look decent at less than £1m in my opinion. Subjective though. Especially when they had banked so much.

9 minutes ago, gonzo said:

If whoever bid 5m for Dion and we accept it doesnt mean we want to sell.

It does really. Can be reluctant but we’d rather have the cash than player. 
 

Again fairly subjective as no one will pay £5m for Charles. I also hope they don’t as I’d like to keep him.

Edited January 3, 20242 yr by tomski

1 hour ago, masi 51 said:

Swansea are tonight locked in talks with notts county Luke Williams [manager]

Can  see Macauley langstaff joining him................whats the panic!!!!

There's obviously logic in that, but that's a big jump for Langstaff.  Never played as high as L2 until August (and he's 26).  If you're a Swansea fan you might be a bit underwhelmed at signing a L2 striker.  Surely needs to prove himself in L1 first.

21 minutes ago, tomski said:

Didn’t look decent at less than £1m in my opinion. Subjective though. Especially when they had banked so much.

Regardless of how much they'd banked, close to £1m for a squad player seemed like a really good offer. You might not agree, but plenty did ... including the club.

I don't think anyone expected Thomason to become such an important player for us only a few months later.

8 minutes ago, DazBob said:

Regardless of how much they'd banked, close to £1m for a squad player seemed like a really good offer. You might not agree, but plenty did ... including the club.

I don't think anyone expected Thomason to become such an important player for us only a few months later.

At the time I would taken the money. He has limitations to his game (such as his right foot) but he has become I regal to the team since. 

5 minutes ago, Ani said:

At the time I would taken the money.

Me too. Absolutely.

I didnt expect him to progress anywhere near as much as he has, let alone so quickly. I doubt many did either.

Probably first midfielder on the teamsheet now.

2 minutes ago, DazBob said:

Me too. Absolutely.

I didnt expect him to progress anywhere near as much as he has, let alone so quickly. I doubt many did either.

Probably first midfielder on the teamsheet now.

Or you and I know fuck all ! 😉

45 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

There's obviously logic in that, but that's a big jump for Langstaff.  Never played as high as L2 until August (and he's 26).  If you're a Swansea fan you might be a bit underwhelmed at signing a L2 striker.  Surely needs to prove himself in L1 first.

...as does Joe Taylor. He stepped up from Norwich Academy as a kid to the Eastern Counties winning promotion to Isthmian North with Wroxham no problem, but didn't really do anything at the Linnets or Posh (or Luton yet) and stepped up again with Colchester in L2 but League 1 is a different kettle of fish so it would be a brave move if we take him on loan. Still he's young and has done well to get to where he is, so he has great potential.

I suppose we're looking for another attacking player to come on after 65 minutes as is the norm? Don't think we'll see him on Sunday even though Luton will be resting players as I think he's cup tied having played in an earlier round for Colchester.

Might see Reece Burke in their back 3 though.

20 minutes ago, Ani said:

Or you and I know fuck all ! 😉

There is that

if we'd recruited better than, Vic, Dan & Jerome, a sale would be much easier

promotion will be worth more than any potential fee, so he ain't going for less than 2

personally, can't see a championship club going for him, not sure he'd cut it

 

Edited January 4, 20242 yr by L/H White