Transfer Gossip

[Ratwhite]

What's gone, has gone.

What's in front of us is hope, Like every season. I'm actually less expectant this season than the last three. But, we have hope. We have a good fan base, Chairman and Manager, we need a couple more to fill out the squad then lets 'ave it. COYWM

[Wanderlust]

5 hours ago, masi 51 said:

Let us look at what Schumacher inherited....Two keepers that that knew they were off come May

Five inverted wingbacks two who knew come May they ere also off and two wingers who could not defend

Cogley apart the other four not good enough in that position

Centre backs Four centre backs who all had injury issues and one who had the captaincy stripped from him who again was making plans to move away.

Lets move to the midfield One who was returning from a loan spell and did not know what to expect 

Two injured or returning after 18 months out...

Forwards.......Two playing out of position and no Genuine number 9 at the club...........Last year needs a line drawing under it....Judge Schumacher from August onwards

He was left a shit show

It’s an impressive list of excuses but has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the point Im making.

That “shit show” as you call it, created - in Schueys words not mine - more chances in the crucial game against Bristol than any other team in Europe created in their games. We lost 1 nil when we should have scored a hatful and strolled towards automatic promotion.

Whilst recruitment has been encouraging, Im just not seeing finishers, Dalby apart - and he’s injured. Warren may come good but the old guard that stay and the recruits to date aren’t reknowned for their finishing and in my mind thats what sunk us last season.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Having previously accepted a bid of £1m for Tomo, why would we accept less now?

Cough up or fuck off.

[Farnywhite]

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Having previously accepted a bid of £1m for Tomo, why would we accept less now?

Cough up or fuck off.

They were probably looking at potential when they offered a million he went backwards last season if we get 750k we have e done well but then again he will probably refuse to leave again 😂 

Edited July 17, 2025 by Farnywhite

[HenryPorter]

I suggested earlier that, at this level, bids were normally ( though obviously not always) made for players whose names had been circulated.

If you see “SALE” in a shop window you expect prices to be lower.

[masi 51]

15 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

It’s an impressive list of excuses but has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the point Im making.

That “shit show” as you call it, created - in Schueys words not mine - more chances in the crucial game against Bristol than any other team in Europe created in their games. We lost 1 nil when we should have scored a hatful and strolled towards automatic promotion.

Whilst recruitment has been encouraging, Im just not seeing finishers, Dalby apart - and he’s injured. Warren may come good but the old guard that stay and the recruits to date aren’t reknowned for their finishing and in my mind thats what sunk us last season.

 

We lost 3-2???????

Concede 3 against teams that are relegated and i would say it was shite 1-11

Edited July 17, 2025 by masi 51

[Tonge moor green jacket]

5 minutes ago, Farnywhite said:

They were probably looking at potential when they offered a million he went backwards last season if we get 750k we have e done well but then again he will probably refuse to leave again 😂 

I don't think he did go backwards.

They all went below previous levels, and the manager went doolally. 

If he isn't the same player, then Huddersfield wouldn't want him as they wouldn't regard him as good enough for their promotion push.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

5 minutes ago, HenryPorter said:

I suggested earlier that, at this level, bids were normally ( though obviously not always) made for players whose names had been circulated.

If you see “SALE” in a shop window you expect prices to be lower.

Two of ours have already been told to look for another club. They undoubtedly will go cheap or on loan.

Tomo hasn't been, and therefore, like any of the others, we should expect reasonable offers.

I'd also suggest that Huddersfield, with their spending power, won't be bothering looking solely at the cast-offs of other league one teams.

[HenryPorter]

In fairness, I have no evidence that either Thomason or Forrester’s names had been circulated but we all expected a clearout and SS has said that there will be more exits.

I like both players but the squad is still imbalanced.

With the arrivals of Taylor, and particularly Simons, it is hard to see where either Thomason or Forrester could get regular outings.  They could raise significant funds to beef up the strike force.

Dan and Lolos won’t generate anything more than their savings in wages.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

9 minutes ago, HenryPorter said:

In fairness, I have no evidence that either Thomason or Forrester’s names had been circulated but we all expected a clearout and SS has said that there will be more exits.

I like both players but the squad is still imbalanced.

With the arrivals of Taylor, and particularly Simons, it is hard to see where either Thomason or Forrester could get regular outings.  They could raise significant funds to beef up the strike force.

Dan and Lolos won’t generate anything more than their savings in wages.

Going off what little we've seen so far, GT and Simons have looked the more solid partnership.

Of course it's the manager's decision, but looking at how Simons played, he was doing the Sheehan role.

He was also brought in by Wycombe to fill Morley's position there too.

Perhaps they are the ones looking over their shoulder, who knows.

Anyway, if a league one competitor wants one of ours, and has plenty of cash to spend, then selling a player to them for less than we paid out last season (Lolos?) would seem a bit strange.

 

[Tombwfc]

35 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I don't think he did go backwards.

They all went below previous levels, and the manager went doolally. 

If he isn't the same player, then Huddersfield wouldn't want him as they wouldn't regard him as good enough for their promotion push.

 

I don't think Huddersfield's valuation of a player - their ability or what they'd be prepared to pay - has any relevance to what Bristol City thought two years ago. And Huddersfield bought a load of players last year they thought were good enough for their promotion push and finished 10th.

Plus we have a totally different management team who will value GT differently. Plus Bristol's bid is only comparable to Huddersfield's (hypothetical) bid if you know the details of both - one might be £750k mostly up front, the other might be £1m paid in full if he wins the balllon d'or.

In short, anything up around that figure seems about right to me and so I wouldn't worry about the finer details unless those are ever publicised.

[Johnnyrotten]

49 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I don't think he did go backwards.

They all went below previous levels, and the manager went doolally. 

If he isn't the same player, then Huddersfield wouldn't want him as they wouldn't regard him as good enough for their promotion push.

Agreed.  I didn't particularly rate him around the time Bristol made an offer, but he's improved massively IMO.  Doesn't even get booked every game now.  And his consistency of passing has improved, and his goalscoring potential.  And his leadership and battling qualities.  I'm unsure which bit of his game is meant to have gone backwards, other than being tarred with the same brush as everyone else last season.

[Tombwfc]

2 hours ago, Cheese said:

It was a question, Tom.

 

I don't judge him as a success or failure based on those games. But they did happen. I think anyone who's being honest would've expected us to get more points than we did. 

If SS had gotten us into the playoffs or made the final, then he'd be starting this season with credit in the bank. As it is, if we start badly then he won't have much to fall back on. 

Anyway, I agree that last season is last season and I'm certainly not writing Schumacher off. But the post I responded to was suggesting he'd inherited a disaster - I don't think that can wash as an excuse if we don't improve noticeably this season.

[Johnnyrotten]

1 hour ago, Wanderlust said:

It’s an impressive list of excuses but has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the point Im making.

That “shit show” as you call it, created - in Schueys words not mine - more chances in the crucial game against Bristol than any other team in Europe created in their games. We lost 1 nil when we should have scored a hatful and strolled towards automatic promotion.

Whilst recruitment has been encouraging, Im just not seeing finishers, Dalby apart - and he’s injured. Warren may come good but the old guard that stay and the recruits to date aren’t reknowned for their finishing and in my mind thats what sunk us last season.

 

It wasn't Bristol, it was Rotherham at home.

Probably the most dominant we've been in a game for a couple of years, ridiculous that we didn't win comfortably.

[L/H White]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Having previously accepted a bid of £1m for Tomo, why would we accept less now?

Cough up or fuck off.

well he hasn't improved for one

Edited July 17, 2025 by L/H White

[bwfc6ix]

13 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

It wasn't Bristol, it was Rotherham at home.

Probably the most dominant we've been in a game for a couple of years, ridiculous that we didn't win comfortably.

Think Rotherhams xG for that game was 0.2 in the end. 

[London Wanderer]

Hard to know if the failings in the latter half of last season were Schuey’s fault or the players. Probably a mixture of both.

There has been some promising business & reasons to feel excited. Just hard not to be pessimistic after the last few seasons.

Still feel we need some more faces in there 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

35 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Agreed.  I didn't particularly rate him around the time Bristol made an offer, but he's improved massively IMO.  Doesn't even get booked every game now.  And his consistency of passing has improved, and his goalscoring potential.  And his leadership and battling qualities.  I'm unsure which bit of his game is meant to have gone backwards, other than being tarred with the same brush as everyone else last season.

100%.

Home grown whipping boy!

As for valuation- it is of course down to clubs to decide that, but I rate him higher than some we paid more for last season.

The money may help towards a striker etc, but getting rid of a player who is different from the others we have, may mean a replacement is needed. What could we get with that amount?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

33 minutes ago, L/H White said:

well he hasn't improved for one

Yes he has.

[Ani]

We were 6th with about 6 games to go and it suddenly went to shit. Maybe SS had seen stuff he needed to change and bit the bullet but the drop off was crazy. We had an amazing number of players injured back end (not available might be more accurate) 

It does feel like we need more faces in especially in the rumoured players leave. Hard to get excited about Macedonian players from Oz. The Celtic might be the new Andy Walker, someone mention Smith from Sheff Weds but would him and Dalby make a good pair  ? 
 

And - broken record time - we need a Captain/leader. I have no idea who will start v Stockport 

[Farnywhite]

10 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Hard to know if the failings in the latter half of last season were Schuey’s fault or the players. Probably a mixture of both.

There

Don’t no how it’s the managers fault he didn’t bring the players in and didn’t get the Jan window to improve it . the players checked out well before the season finished and gave up

. 
this season and signings are on him though but it might take a couple of Windows to sort it out but we need to see progress with the tactics and coaching that’s on him starting august 

Edited July 17, 2025 by Farnywhite

[masi 51]

31 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

I don't judge him as a success or failure based on those games. But they did happen. I think anyone who's being honest would've expected us to get more points than we did. 

If SS had gotten us into the playoffs or made the final, then he'd be starting this season with credit in the bank. As it is, if we start badly then he won't have much to fall back on. 

Anyway, I agree that last season is last season and I'm certainly not writing Schumacher off. But the post I responded to was suggesting he'd inherited a disaster - I don't think that can wash as an excuse if we don't improve noticeably this season.

You have not really countered my reply......And to say you have not not written Schumacher off is frankly laughable

The more you look at January to the end of the season the more you realise how much Schumacher hands were tied

 

 

[bwfc4ife]

Schuey should get a free pass, he looks to be trying to build something here. It was long fucked before he arrived last year, Evatt should’ve gone after Huddersfield at home to have stood any real chance.

Im hopeful for the new season. I’m also very concerned about the no. of new faces, time to gel and time to adapt to the new way of playing. It may not be quite plain sailing for the first few games. 

I think we look really lightweight in the top half of the pitch. 

I also think we look really short on goals upfront. Say what you will about Charles but if he’d have stayed here last year he’d have finished on at least 15. We need at least two more for me to challenge Dalby and allow us to play two up front if needed.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

I see Sheehan's changed his agent

[1969]

Wrexham being linked to GT