Last I heard, it was court tomorrow

 

ST and Lies reported 3, including Heathcotes mob

 

KA said that was old news, leaving 2

 

 

Now, I can see HMRC is definitely a club issue,but the other is Sport Shield

 

If we assume KA can deal with HMRC debt - I'd have been happier if he had sorted that one already, tbf- that 'just' leaves SS and blumarble

 

If the court agrees to wind up SS, do we know what that means and also the impact on BWFC

Edited May 21, 20179 yr by Casino

I hope for you're sake you never your own business.

I've had my own business for 20 years.

There's genuine folk on the steering committee life long fans 40 and 50 years plus who know their stuff and giving their time free of charge, however it's not my place to name folk.

 

Like this one perhaps?

 

http://forum.boltonnuts.co.uk/t15637-supporters-trust-keeping-low-profile-about-taking-people-s-10-s-for-renewed-membership#334720

 

The same person who added a comment at the bottom of the Supporters Direct Statement -

 

https://supporters-direct.org/articles/supporters-direct-statement-bolton-wanderers

Have any of them built up a multi million pound business? Or been involved in the ins and outs of football transfers for years?

 

If not they don't know any more 'stuff' than you or I

Not football business but multi million pound businesses yes. the ACV will stand and Kens going to have to use that business acumen you talk about to raise some money from elsewhere, unless he has come up with clarity of why he feels the need to have the ACV removed then he shouldn't be suprised if it isn't.

Like this one perhaps?

 

http://forum.boltonnuts.co.uk/t15637-supporters-trust-keeping-low-profile-about-taking-people-s-10-s-for-renewed-membership#334720

 

The same person who added a comment at the bottom of the Supporters Direct Statement -

 

https://supporters-direct.org/articles/supporters-direct-statement-bolton-wanderers

Wow that's a shock someone agrees with Ken. Many many more do not. Check the comments on the Bolton news site.

Edited October 3, 20178 yr by Mounts Kipper

Wow that's a shock someone agrees with Ken. Many many more do not. Check the comments on the Bolton news site.

 

You believe what you read on the Bolton News comments???

 

Hahaha!

 

Best chuckle I've had all day!

 

 

Anyhow, don't you think Bridge should have come clean and disclosed his financial past (which after all is public record) before putting himself up to be the Chair of a non voted for Board (notice I choose my words carefully there)?

 

Seemed ironic in the extreme that a serial failed businessman  led the ST's attack on how Anderson was running his business - which up to now seems to have been exemplary in turning the club around, whilst the ST have still not had their AGM nor submitted their last accounts on time as they are certainly not available for purchase as per the previous accounts (according to the Financial Services Authority, which monitors and regulates these things - and which directly seems to contradict Bridges post on the SD statement?) -

 

https://mutuals.fsa.gov.uk/SocietyDetails.aspx?Number=7270&Suffix=CBS

How many faceless, nameless people are behind the scenes here? In what is meant to be a democratically run organisation. Secret steering groups, high net worth individuals. Fuck off.

Edited October 4, 20178 yr by Carlos

How many facess, nameless people are behind the scenes here? In what is meant to be a democratically run organisation. Secret steering groups, high net worth individuals. Fuck off.

 

Opacity is the future

How many facess, nameless people are behind the scenes here? In what is meant to be a democratically run organisation. Secret steering groups, high net worth individuals. Fuck off.

All whilst screaming to know every single in and out of Ken's business.

You believe what you read on the Bolton News comments???

 

Hahaha!

 

Best chuckle I've had all day!

 

 

Anyhow, don't you think Bridge should have come clean and disclosed his financial past (which after all is public record) before putting himself up to be the Chair of a non voted for Board (notice I choose my words carefully there)?

 

Seemed ironic in the extreme that a serial failed businessman led the ST's attack on how Anderson was running his business - which up to now seems to have been exemplary in turning the club around, whilst the ST have still not had their AGM nor submitted their last accounts on time as they are certainly not available for purchase as per the previous accounts (according to the Financial Services Authority, which monitors and regulates these things - and which directly seems to contradict Bridges post on the SD statement?) -

 

https://mutuals.fsa.gov.uk/SocietyDetails.aspx?Number=7270&Suffix=CBS

Folk who's business fail are not to be castigated for having a go, do you feel it's good form to bring someone's business failure into the equation? I think you are showing your true colours here and I'm not liking what I see.

How many facess, nameless people are behind the scenes here? In what is meant to be a democratically run organisation. Secret steering groups, high net worth individuals. Fuck off.

Many folk work in the background to help make organisations work, the folk on the steering group give a more balanced and wider range of opinions and a range of different skill sets, the other week folk complaining that with 3 board members running the show that that did not represent supporters now there is a wider more representative party you still not happy. Your opinion is as valid as any other Trust member but on the matter of the ACV you are in the minority, therefore it's right and proper the Trust try to ensure it's not removed.

Edited October 4, 20178 yr by Mounts Kipper

Folk who's business fail are not to be castigated for having a go, do you feel it's good form to bring someone's business failure into the equation? I think you are showing your true colours here and I'm not liking what I see.

Castigated - no.

Taken for all he's worth because he's secured a loan against personal assets in trying to turn a failing business around - absolutely.

 

Seems like you've got rules for one and rules for another Mounts.

All whilst screaming to know every single in and out of Ken's business.

 

The Trust have not screamed to know every single piece of his business, (if they have please point out where?) other wise your making stuff up, they've just asked for clarity on the ACV issue, part of any supporters Trust remit is to secure the stadiums future for the community, there are over 50 stadiums with ACV in my opinion every stadium should have that status. Football owners are custodians of football clubs and should welcome the transparency that the ACV gives, unfortunately not all owners of clubs see themselves as custodians and that for me is the reason all stadia need that status.

Castigated - no.

Taken for all he's worth because he's secured a loan against personal assets in trying to turn a failing business around - absolutely.

 

Seems like you've got rules for one and rules for another Mounts.

Not at all trying to turn a business round using his personal assets was commendable he put his own property on the line thought he could turn it round and failed that's a great shame and an argument Sluffy needn't make but he sadly could not resist. In Kens case he's picked up a failing business done a great job in slashing over heads and renegotiating contracts with suppliers, losses are hopefully reducing and there is light at the end of the tunnel. KA came into the club with open eyes he knows what's required to run a club (some investment) my view is if he can't or won't put money in to the club then he really shouldn't of got involved, mortgaging the assets is in my mind going to cause us problems in future when he is long gone and if he's so keen to mortgage the stadium why can't he give some transparency?

Edited October 4, 20178 yr by Mounts Kipper

Two points. If KA hadn't become involved we wouldn't have had a club to support and unless iv'e missed something when has it ever been said he either wants to sell or mortgage the stadium.

So to clarify, why don't these high net individuals that are all behind the ST invest money into the club using funds created against their own assets?

 

The offer is there on the table to invest.

Your opinion is as valid as any other Trust member but on the matter of the ACV you are in the minority, therefore it's right and proper the Trust try to ensure it's not removed.

I have no idea what metric you'd used to measure opinion, please clarify this. Given opinion is fluid and the only sources I have are here, Twitter and talking to other supporters/members. Otherwise it's yet another made up fact.

Two points. If KA hadn't become involved we wouldn't have had a club to support and unless iv'e missed something when has it ever been said he either wants to sell or mortgage the stadium.

Who knows if your first comment is true things might have panned out differently but at the moment we have a lot to thank him for I think all agree on that. KA stated he wants removal of ACV to raise finance however the ACV in itself does not prevent raising finance from what the Trust understand. The Trust have asked for clarity however he seems unwilling to do that which is his perogative, it is therefore felt better for the Trusts to support upholding the ACV.

mounts, as you are so strongly in favour of the acv, you will be able to answer this

 

 

 

king sand filled flip flops offers ken a price hes happy with, promising to invest his 50 billion fortune

 

what happens, then?

I have no idea what metric you'd used to measure opinion, please clarify this. Given opinion is fluid and the only sources I have are here, Twitter and talking to other supporters/members. Otherwise it's yet another made up fact.

The Trust have conducted surveys and the majority of fans supported having an ACV.

The Trust have conducted surveys and the majority of fans supported having an ACV.

Have they?

Folk who's business fail are not to be castigated for having a go, do you feel it's good form to bring someone's business failure into the equation? I think you are showing your true colours here and I'm not liking what I see.

If that person is questioning the bloke who lives in Monaco's business acumen, then they are fair game.

 

Also this person ultimately wants to run our club. If he can't run a double glazing company or whatever, should they be trusted with a multi million pound operation?

 

Should they fuck as like.

The Trust have conducted surveys and the majority of fans supported having an ACV.

You might want to rephrase that because as it reads right now it's absolute bollocks

One Survey Monkey months ago. ROFLCOPTER. Pointless arguing when faced with endless made up shit. "Moves in similar circles to KA and seems to know quite a bit more about him than most of us" - BULLSHIT.

Ken says...

 

"I’d like to note that having seen the recent Supporters’ Direct statement neither the club nor l will be making any further comments until the outcome of the ACV hearing is known. However, I do wish to point out there being a number of inaccuracies and out of date information referred to in the statement and l have already made my position about the Supporters’ Trust clear in earlier notes. For the sake of clarity, I feel it important to reiterate that the sale of club assets and loans secured against club assets occurred prior to my involvement with the club.

Unfortunately, it appears to me that a number of people who are or have been involved in both of these organisations enjoy commenting generally on club matters that they have little or no knowledge of, as has clearly been seen in various comments made by the Trust over the last few months.

I do wonder sometimes why they don’t take the time to check the facts with the club or myself before making inaccurate statements.

All l can tell you is that since l have been involved with the club, the Trust has done very little in assisting the club in any shape or form."

 

Go On Ken!

Wow that's a shock someone agrees with Ken. Many many more do not. Check the comments on the Bolton news site.

Trying to support your argument with the "thoughts" of the BN comments section is nature's way of telling you that you are wrong .