Mate of mine is there says a bomb just went off

Well they are anti facists after all

But yes well played

No different to them taking it to the nazi's really

There's a commeration to the Bolton lad who volunteered to fight the fascists in the Spanish Civil War next week, a few from here are going.

Well they are anti facists after all

 

But yes well played

 

No different to them taking it to the nazi's really

 

 

Different viewpoints. From my observations, very few behave in a more Nazi way than this mob. Y'know, trying to swat all opposition and silence or shut down all opinions which do not agree with their own. They would not have a fucking clue what the word 'tolerance' even means.

 

I'd say that we are all anti-fascist - a huge conflict took place not that long ago to try to rid the world of them and I am proud to say that it was a right wing Conservative who stood up to them alone in the first instance before others realised that they had to get on board.

Different viewpoints. From my observations, very few behave in a more Nazi way than this mob. Y'know, trying to swat all opposition and silence or shut down all opinions which do not agree with their own. They would not have a fucking clue what the word 'tolerance' even means.

 

I'd say that we are all anti-fascist - a huge conflict took place not that long ago to try to rid the world of them and I am proud to say that it was a right wing Conservative who stood up to them alone in the first instance before others realised that they had to get on board.

'I am an English Liberal. I hate the Tory party, their men, their words and their methods.'

 

Winston Churchill

 

Just in case it wasn't blatantly clear that nothing is ever as clear cut as the bone headed make out.

'I am an English Liberal. I hate the Tory party, their men, their words and their methods.'

 

Winston Churchill

 

Just in case it wasn't blatantly clear that nothing is ever as clear cut as the bone headed make out.

When does that quote date from, 30 or 40 years before the time Bolty mentioned?

I thought I could predict the comments of the serial belittler so did a 'view it anyway' to confirm. Back on ignore now.

 

The words attributed to Churchill by him were spoken in 1903. There is absolutely no doubt where his political leanings went from that point where he became the subject of vitriol from Liberals and rapturous acclaim from Tories.

 

Some far better Winnie quotes:-

 

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.

 

 

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.

 

 

We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.

 

 

Possibly too complex for the true bone headed to process.

When does that quote date from, 30 or 40 years before the time Bolty mentioned?

 

 

Fastest finger! Beat me by about 3 seconds.

 

You are on the ball of course. That quote was from 1903.

Different viewpoints. From my observations, very few behave in a more Nazi way than this mob. Y'know, trying to swat all opposition and silence or shut down all opinions which do not agree with their own. They would not have a fucking clue what the word 'tolerance' even means.

 

I actually do agree and often their methods of violence and mayhem are counter productive

 

When they stoop to things like desecrating war memorials or wearing those Guido Fawkes masks I get the word "cunts"

 

There are some extreme cases though where I'm happy for them to crack on and get stuck in

 

One is nazis

 

Another is ISIS

 

Whatever Antifa and the likes do they don't even come close to those two groups

 

The lesser of two evils you might say, though I don't think some Antifa are half as bad the others in their gang, as you suggeat, anti facism is not a bad thing

 

But you'd do well to find me a Nazi or member of ISIS being let down by their team mates

I actually do agree and often their methods of violence and mayhem are counter productive

 

When they stoop to things like desecrating war memorials or wearing those Guido Fawkes masks I get the word "cunts"

 

There are some extreme cases though where I'm happy for them to crack on and get stuck in

 

One is nazis

 

Another is ISIS

 

Whatever Antifa and the likes do they don't even come close to those two groups

 

The lesser of two evils you might say, though I don't think some Antifa are half as bad the others in their gang, as you suggeat, anti facism is not a bad thing

 

But you'd do well to find me a Nazi or member of ISIS being let down by their team mates

 

 

These nazi's you mention. In the deep south of the USA?

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/07/world/middleeast/isis-syria-convoy.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&referer=

 

Isis convoy stuck in the desert.

 

Should they be given relief? (Not the handjob kind)

 

I'd personally set fire to it.

 

 

Drag the fuckers out, set up a video feed and behead the fuckers.

 

Deliver the severed heads back to their families/friends.

These nazi's you mention. In the deep south of the USA?

 

yeah, the ones in the first minute of this video - just to be clear, the ones chanting "blood and soil" and "jews will not replace us"

 

 

them ones

Scruffy cunts.

 

Say what you like about the o.g. Nazis - they cut a dash in their smart uniforms.

 

Hugo Boss I believe.

When does that quote date from, 30 or 40 years before the time Bolty mentioned?

 

Like Sir Bolts of idiotville, you missed the point. It shows the shades of the argument. Old Winston wasn't a right wing Conservative, just as he wasn't a Liberal - if anything he was an independent with a wide cross section of views. And yes, 1903. Again, that's not the arguement. Do people have to work this hard at playing dumb?

 

everything isn't as cut and dry as you'd like to believe. Don't make yourself look foolish.

 

It's been instersting watching Bolt's decent on here, like an old man flaying around with ill informed and flatlining views that proves that the past really is a different country.

 

He can crack in until he draws his last breath, he's a comic irrelevance.

Edited September 8, 20178 yr by Not in Crawley

Like Sir Bolts of idiotville, you missed the point. It shows the shades of the argument. Old Winston wasn't a right wing Conservative, just as he wasn't a Liberal - if anything he was an independent with a wide cross section of views. And yes, 1903. Again, that's not the arguement. Do people have to work this hard at playing dumb?

 

everything isn't as cut and dry as you'd like to believe. Don't make yourself look foolish.

 

It's been instersting watching Bolt's decent on here, like an old man flaying around with ill informed and flatlining views that proves that the past really is a different country.

 

He can crack in until he draws his last breath, he's a comic irrelevance.

I am not having that, yours was a deliberate use of the quote out of context. It's a clear example of your belief that you are better educated and more intelligent than other posters on here and you would not be challenged on it.

 

And it's nonsense to suggest that someone whose political views move across the spectrum does not hold those views sincerely and is some sort of centrist.

I am not having that, yours was a deliberate use of the quote out of context. It's a clear example of your belief that you are better educated and more intelligent than other posters on here and you would not be challenged on it.

And it's nonsense to suggest that someone whose political views move across the spectrum does not hold those views sincerely and is some sort of centrist.

Couldn't have wished for a better summing up.

I thought I could predict the comments of the serial belittler so did a 'view it anyway' to confirm. Back on ignore now.

 

The words attributed to Churchill by him were spoken in 1903. There is absolutely no doubt where his political leanings went from that point where he became the subject of vitriol from Liberals and rapturous acclaim from Tories.

 

Some far better Winnie quotes:-

 

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.

 

 

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.

 

 

We contend that for a nation to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.

 

 

Possibly too complex for the true bone headed to process.

 

You have folk who disagree with you on ignore? Really?

 

That surprises me as you seem to love nothing more than a good old debate.

 

You massive fanny

You have folk who disagree with you on ignore? Really?

 

That surprises me as you seem to love nothing more than a good old debate.

 

You massive fanny

Does that mean I can call Bolty a bigoted, racist cunt of a human being and he won't even read it? Shame.

Does that mean I can call Bolty a bigoted, racist cunt of a human being and he won't even read it? Shame.

 

I find that a bit of a silly comment

 

I disagree with bolty on some of his views but to call him a bigoted, racist cunt is wrong. Sorry, I'll accept your clever word play that you haven't actually called him that.

 

bolty has views and opinions on dealing with extremists/terrorists/etc and will link it to certain religions and parts of the world. I certainly don't see any of that as racist or bigoted. If he was on here ranting against all the p*ddies/p*kis/n*ggers or anyone else who isn't a white anglo-saxon protestant then fair enough. But he doesn't

 

I do disagree on putting anyone on ignore

I find that a bit of a silly comment

 

I disagree with bolty on some of his views but to call him a bigoted, racist cunt is wrong. Sorry, I'll accept your clever word play that you haven't actually called him that.

 

bolty has views and opinions on dealing with extremists/terrorists/etc and will link it to certain religions and parts of the world. I certainly don't see any of that as racist or bigoted. If he was on here ranting against all the p*ddies/p*kis/n*ggers or anyone else who isn't a white anglo-saxon protestant then fair enough. But he doesn't

 

I do disagree on putting anyone on ignore

You're correct in that my post was to make a point about him having others who disagree with him on ignore - thereby he wouldn't see what I post.

 

That said, I haven't departed particularly from my view of him. I'm sure he thinks I'm a leftie, prick of human being (well, comrade). He's entitled to his view. I can agree to disagree with him.

Fair enough. I disagree with with the whole ignore thing

 

I think that everyone on here should agree to disagree. I won't speak for bolty as such but I doubt he thinks you're a prick but I bet that he thinks of you as a leftie 

Edited September 8, 20178 yr by MancWanderer

yeah, the ones in the first minute of this video - just to be clear, the ones chanting "blood and soil" and "jews will not replace us"

 

 

them ones

 

Cheers mate. I thought you'd found some British ones.

 

As I said previously, I can't believe that sore has been allowed to fester in the deep south of Uncle Sam.

 

Military collectors and that OK to have nazi insignia etc. but to march the streets waving Swastika flags and giving it the 'sieg heil' should be outlawed as it is in most civilised countries.

You have folk who disagree with you on ignore? Really?

 

That surprises me as you seem to love nothing more than a good old debate.

 

You massive fanny

 

Don't have you on ignore do I you massive prick? 

 

Yes for that condescending cunt whose only weapon is to label everyone else as either stupid or beneath his perceived superior intellect. Becomes very tiresome when that's all he has.

 

I'll be honest, I have considered many times in recent months giving WWays away. Some rather brilliant posters have left these shores over the last year or so, some of whom I would say were the true pillars of common sense on here and this place is poorer for their absence.

 

Then I discover that I really irk our one artsy fartsy left wing neo nazi and I am reinvigorated.

Does that mean I can call Bolty a bigoted, racist cunt of a human being and he won't even read it? Shame.

 

 

You can tell me to my face next June if you want?

 

I freely admit to being bigoted. Have no time for any religion but one in particular and happy to wear the label. Racist - no, utterly and completely wrong. Cunt-maybe. Shame - not in your case as you aren't on ignore (yet).

You're correct in that my post was to make a point about him having others who disagree with him on ignore - thereby he wouldn't see what I post.

 

That said, I haven't departed particularly from my view of him. I'm sure he thinks I'm a leftie, prick of human being (well, comrade). He's entitled to his view. I can agree to disagree with him.

 

 

Nope, this is incorrect. Rarely agree with Mick, you, Kane 57, Deane Koontz, Casino, Carlos and quite a few others but perfectly happy to banter with all of you and suspect that we could all have a pint together and have a fucking good laugh and have more in common than we have differences.

 

The issue with Nic is the arrogant 'I am the smartest bloke on here and the rest of you are beneath me and not worthy of my company. You are all either thick or stupid'.

 

This is why the boring, repetitive cunt is on ignore.

I am not having that, yours was a deliberate use of the quote out of context. It's a clear example of your belief that you are better educated and more intelligent than other posters on here and you would not be challenged on it.

 

And it's nonsense to suggest that someone whose political views move across the spectrum does not hold those views sincerely and is some sort of centrist.

It wasn't but you crack on - it was a point to show that dear ole Winny being used to simply prop up one point of view, is inherently misguided. I also didn't say he was a centrist, goodness me you don't like half drawing conclusions where there are none to be made. It was to outline that throughout one man's career he had a spectrum of views, and some which dear old Bolts would probably take issue with even in 2017. The demagoguery of Churchill by the far right, does irk me somewhat, as its factually and historically inaccurate. It paints history as one simple linear narrative, which it isn't. 

 

As for Bolts having me on ignore, I presume one can explain to him the irony of this to the mislead 'champion' of free speech, if I bore him, fine. I know that facts aren't as interesting as firebrands spouting rhetoric you agree with. Maybe its because I made jokes abut his trifle, towel or flip flops that seem to have stuck. I don't know. If it was, apologies Bolts - I was only pulling your (none flip flop wearing) leg. And he's probably right, I probably have more differences than things in common with a man like Bolty, so I'm not sure I'd want to be joshing down the pub with him having top bantz.

 

I'll be honest though, I don't come on the site as much because trying to make any point that isn't Left or Right and black and white seems to be increasingly difficult - maybe that's a reflection of society as a whole, and some of the rants about gay marriage, terrorism and the ilk steer away from a reasonable discussion too quickly and make for some really fucking ugly reading, rather than the humor that used to make this site great. Or maybe I've just got old and this has all got a bit pointless. Whatever, as I say, if you enjoy it, you crack on.

Good Lord, we have had a couple of high profile Mail readers quit the site and now the voice of the educated liberal metropolitan left is threatening to walk. FWIW NIC should still keep fighting the good fight and post on here, it's the different voices and opinions that make this site what it is.