Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 What have the poles done? What entitlements do these groups get that others don't ? Not specifically poles; lots of immigrants in too quickly, finish up in poor areas and making under privileged areas worse. Remember working in and around crescent road for a while. Absolute shithole with folk burning rubbish in the streets. Infrastructure isn't there to cope. Madhatter is referring to peoples perceptions, not necessarily realities. Quote
DirtySanchez Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 Yes, that's fine. But don't put them all in the one basket. Mauricio Poachettino Brad Friedel Runny Rosenthal or the ultimate eggy footballer: Dwhite Yolk Nile free RangerMi-shell Platini Chick Tioute/Charnley Quote
DirtySanchez Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 Yes, that's fine. But don't put them all in the one basket. Mauricio Poachettino Brad Friedel Runny Rosenthal or the ultimate eggy footballer: Dwhite Yolk Nile free RangerMi-shell Platini Chick Tioute/Charnley Quote
gonzo Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 Not specifically poles; lots of immigrants in too quickly, finish up in poor areas and making under privileged areas worse. Remember working in and around crescent road for a while. Absolute shithole with folk burning rubbish in the streets. Infrastructure isn't there to cope. Madhatter is referring to peoples perceptions, not necessarily realities. Mate, from my own exprience you couldn't be further wrong about the poles. They are grafters to a man. I work in the most polish populated area in probably the north of England. They all work their spuds off. They are clean and tidy and look after their properties. It's the English spice monkeys next door and their feral kids that spoil the party. My mates hotel has 90 polish staff out of 120. They take every hour on offer. Homegrown nobheads ring in sick every weekend. Quote
madthatter Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) jees louise no-ones picking on the Poles ffs . . .! I only referenced them so folk wouldn't assume I was singling out non-whites . . . The point being made is that whoever comes into to such areas in the UK it will cause resentment and social issues; not always due to the actions of the immigrants. Poles, generally, graft and do their bit. It could be questioned whether they integrate that well as ones I know and communities I've lived near tend to be quite insular. It's less noticeable though as our cultures are pretty similar to begin with. Same could well be said for any ex-pat community though . . . Edited August 20, 2017 by madthatter Quote
gonzo Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 jees louise no-ones picking on the Poles ffs . . .! I only referenced them so folk wouldn't assume I was singling out non-whites . . . The point being made is that whoever comes into to such areas in the UK it will cause resentment and social issues; not always due to the actions of the immigrants. Poles, generally, graft and do their bit. It could be questioned whether they integrate that well as ones I know and communities I've lived near tend to be quite insular. It's less noticeable though as our cultures are pretty similar to begin with. Same could well be said for any ex-pat community though . . . I didn't quote you in my post. Quote
Spider Posted August 20, 2017 Author Posted August 20, 2017 Poles integrate fine once they learn the language but they're usually too busy working to find the time. As a culture they just tend to be fairly introverted so it's not that they aren't integrating. What you expecting them to do? Knock on your door and invite themselves in for a drink? Sure that would go down well. I think they're ace. Quote
madthatter Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 I didn't quote you in my post. I know; but, well, go back a few posts and perhaps it will become clear. Quote
madthatter Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 Poles integrate fine once they learn the language but they're usually too busy working to find the time. As a culture they just tend to be fairly introverted so it's not that they aren't integrating. What you expecting them to do? Knock on your door and invite themselves in for a drink? Sure that would go down well. I think they're ace. That's kind of what I was getting at. I know a lot of the Polish community in Bristol are heading back after Brexit. I was working with an absolute cracking blonde Pole lass recently. My Pole, sadly, remained British. Quote
tomski Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 Not specifically poles; lots of immigrants in too quickly, finish up in poor areas and making under privileged areas worse. Remember working in and around crescent road for a while. Absolute shithole with folk burning rubbish in the streets. Infrastructure isn't there to cope. Madhatter is referring to peoples perceptions, not necessarily realities. Bolton chose to take extra funding to take these folk in. Councils fault how that's panned out. Quote
Whites man Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) Bolton chose to take extra funding to take these folk in. Councils fault how that's panned out.That funding was specifically for housing asylum seekers not general European migrants. Towns like Bolton have more than their share because of cheap housing, nowt to do with Cliff Morris. Edited August 20, 2017 by Whites man Quote
Escobarp Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 And because a chunk of our own yoof don't want to work or are general lazy bastards so we need to make up the balance of workers from the Eastern European migrant workers And as gonzo states they are absolute grafters although I restrict this comment to those migrants who actually come here to work and pay taxes etc. Quote
Guest Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 Did I hear last week that 1/3rd of the unemployed are immigrants? Quote
Mixu Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 (edited) Did I hear last week that 1/3rd of the unemployed are immigrants? One fifth of migrants are unemployed. I'm not sure how that works in with your figure. A third seems a little high. Correction: one fifth of the unemployed are migrants. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/08/16/one-five-unemployed-people-uk-migrantsofficial-figures-reveal/ Edited August 20, 2017 by Mixu Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 Mate, from my own exprience you couldn't be further wrong about the poles. They are grafters to a man. I work in the most polish populated area in probably the north of England. They all work their spuds off. They are clean and tidy and look after their properties. It's the English spice monkeys next door and their feral kids that spoil the party. My mates hotel has 90 polish staff out of 120. They take every hour on offer. Homegrown nobheads ring in sick every weekend. As madhatter points out pal, its not one group or another. Can't say what nationalities they were, may have been poles, Estonians whatever. Fact remains that I and colleagues had to spend a disproportionate amount of time working (pissing in the wind) clearing up shitholes predominantly occupied by folk from foreign countries. One team was met with black bin liners filled with excrement being chucked into a back street by eastern Europeans. Inevitably when you experience something like this you draw conclusions; whether they are working or not wasn't the point I was making. Simply that too many folk have arrived quicker than the country can cope with and unfortunately if they are housed in areas already run down the problem seems to get worse. No doubt you've encountered grafters gonzo; I've got no issue with poles (eyes opened by my visit to the national memorial arboretum), but simply that not everyone coming in shares the same social values Quote
tomski Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 That funding was specifically for housing asylum seekers not general European migrants. Towns like Bolton have more than their share because of cheap housing, nowt to do with Cliff Morris. Yes I realise that. I have no issue with it either Quote
Whites man Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 About the only benefit of Brexit I can see is that we will be able to chose our immigrants so more grafters of any colour and less spongers. Quote
Whites man Posted August 20, 2017 Posted August 20, 2017 Yes I realise that. I have no issue with it either A lot on here don't though, that's why we so often have the Gateway Town trope making an appearance. Quote
jayjayoghani Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 About the only benefit of Brexit I can see is that we will be able to chose our immigrants so more grafters of any colour and less spongers. How it should be surely. I couldn't claim dole for 2 years when I moved here. The 20% figure actually surprises me, thought it would be lower. Quote
Ani Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 (edited) How it should be surely. I couldn't claim dole for 2 years when I moved here. The 20% figure actually surprises me, thought it would be lower. To claim Job seekers here you have to have paid NI for previous 2 years. Not sure about other benefits. Our lass has taken ill health retirement from work. She paid in for 26 years. After 3 years she is starting to look for work and can not get job seekers. She has had fuck all as although she was too ill to do her job. She was deemed fit to work because she can dress herself so could not get disability. As she was not well did not lie and pretend she was looking for work. Now because of time passed she gets nothing. Edited August 21, 2017 by Ani Quote
madthatter Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 About the only benefit of Brexit I can see is that we will be able to chose our immigrants so more grafters of any colour and less spongers. Aren't you forgetting the possibility of having a black passport again? Quote
Mike Hunt Posted August 21, 2017 Posted August 21, 2017 Anyone been watching The State? Frightening watch and insight based on research and first hand accounts of recruitment. Quote
Traf Posted August 22, 2017 Posted August 22, 2017 Anyone been watching The State? Frightening watch and insight based on research and first hand accounts of recruitment. Recording it so I can watch it all at once. hate waiting for episodes Quote
miamiwhite Posted August 23, 2017 Posted August 23, 2017 Shocking that the Imam was planning bigger attacks and suicide bombings in Barcelona. If an Imam is doing this sort of stuff, Christ give me strength. Good job he scored a spectacular own goal and blew himself to bits. No virgins for him the gormless Dumbo. Quote
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