Politics

[Winchester White]

2 hours ago, bolty58 said:

They are really shitting themselves aren't they? 

It's the same rules for everyone and it's the Tories who have referred him to Parliamentary standards.

Farage and Tice are dodgy as fuck, up there with Mandelson.

[mickbrown]

Fagash being a spiv. Fuck me I'm shocked. 

[BobyBrno]

11 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

 

Number of voters per group.

 

18–24: ~4 million

25–49: ~15–16 million

50–64: ~9–10 million

65+: ~8.5–9 million
 

Number of Reform voters based on the statista percentages. 

18-24    0.4 million

25-49    3.04 million

49-64    3.4 million

65+         2.97 million

Most of Reforms voters are in that middle age group. 👍

Allegedly. (ChatGBT)

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Bertie said:

Man of the people.

 

Desperate stuff.

Folk should look closer to home, but they don't.

Always the way in politics, especially as an election approaches. 

Same by all parties of course.

The "eat the rich" idea, old as the hills, breeds resentment, yet harms our society.

Perversely, the folk who proclaim themselves as genuinely "of the people" turn out to be as dodgy and self serving as those they pillory.

Always been the same, and maybe now voters have had enough.

A change to the orthodoxy as a result of repeatedly ignoring the concerns of voters. 

Sir Winston Churchill wasn't brought up in a poor environment, but was magnificent for the country in his time.

It shouldn't matter one iota what the background of a person is-just do the fucking job.

If Farage is to be the next leader- or anyone else- so long as they do what's needed then it doesn't matter.

[Bertie]

24 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Desperate stuff.

Folk should look closer to home, but they don't.

Always the way in politics, especially as an election approaches. 

Same by all parties of course.

The "eat the rich" idea, old as the hills, breeds resentment, yet harms our society.

Perversely, the folk who proclaim themselves as genuinely "of the people" turn out to be as dodgy and self serving as those they pillory.

Always been the same, and maybe now voters have had enough.

A change to the orthodoxy as a result of repeatedly ignoring the concerns of voters. 

Sir Winston Churchill wasn't brought up in a poor environment, but was magnificent for the country in his time.

It shouldn't matter one iota what the background of a person is-just do the fucking job.

If Farage is to be the next leader- or anyone else- so long as they do what's needed then it doesn't matter.

Honesty. That’s all I’d like in a political leader.

I agree - I also don’t give two hoots what someone’s background is. Rich/privileged no problem. Working class/self-made no problem. And so on. I crave for someone to stand up for what they believe and say what they do and do what they say. Honesty and transparency. I could then vote with confidence for whichever party.

I know it’s politics and hence this is wishful thinking to some extent, but of the current crop I don’t think anyone would disagree with putting Farage at the very back for his hypocrisy and lies. Folks can still choose to vote for him, but at least do so with open eyes.

[kent_white]

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Desperate stuff.

Folk should look closer to home, but they don't.

Always the way in politics, especially as an election approaches. 

Same by all parties of course.

The "eat the rich" idea, old as the hills, breeds resentment, yet harms our society.

Perversely, the folk who proclaim themselves as genuinely "of the people" turn out to be as dodgy and self serving as those they pillory.

Always been the same, and maybe now voters have had enough.

A change to the orthodoxy as a result of repeatedly ignoring the concerns of voters. 

Sir Winston Churchill wasn't brought up in a poor environment, but was magnificent for the country in his time.

It shouldn't matter one iota what the background of a person is-just do the fucking job.

If Farage is to be the next leader- or anyone else- so long as they do what's needed then it doesn't matter.

All that is fine. Providing people hold him to the same standards as they do with Starmer. Which they won't. 

[Spider]

21 minutes ago, kent_white said:

All that is fine. Providing people hold him to the same standards as they do with Starmer. Which they won't. 

Well Starmer has been getting shot since about a week into his tenure, so all Farage needs to do is complete the following by the Friday following his election as PM:

Stop all the boats. For good.

deport all those who “don’t belong here”

Stop all benefits to those who don’t deserve them

Shut down all those dodgy vape shops

Shut down all asylum hotels and HMO’s.

 

If he can sort that in 7 days, then fair play to him. Because that’s what he’ll be judged on from the people that count as they support their £1.99 John Smiths in Wetherspoons.

 

[kent_white]

24 minutes ago, Spider said:

Well Starmer has been getting shot since about a week into his tenure, so all Farage needs to do is complete the following by the Friday following his election as PM:

Stop all the boats. For good.

deport all those who “don’t belong here”

Stop all benefits to those who don’t deserve them

Shut down all those dodgy vape shops

Shut down all asylum hotels and HMO’s.

 

If he can sort that in 7 days, then fair play to him. Because that’s what he’ll be judged on from the people that count as they support their £1.99 John Smiths in Wetherspoons.

 

The thing is - I imagine they WILL make some inroads into those issues. But it will be at the great expense of things like social cohesion, violent disorder and our already severely international standing. 

I've tried to have this conversation with some of my mates who are planning to vite Reform - but they just can't see past the mosque on Blackburn Rd. 

[kent_white]

2 minutes ago, kent_white said:

The thing is - I imagine they WILL make some inroads into those issues. But it will be at the great expense of things like social cohesion, violent disorder and our already severely international standing. 

I've tried to have this conversation with some of my mates who are planning to vite Reform - but they just can't see past the mosque on Blackburn Rd. 

Having said that mind. Like every Govt - I'll get behind them until proven otherwise. Even if I think they're going to be an absolute calamity. I've been wrong before and could be again. But I doubt it on this occasion 😁

[Ani]

5 hours ago, Winchester White said:

It's the same rules for everyone and it's the Tories who have referred him to Parliamentary standards.

Farage and Tice are dodgy as fuck, up there with Mandelson.

Remember when supported Mandelson and look at his fucking trousers. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Ani

[Cheese]

4 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Desperate stuff.

Folk should look closer to home, but they don't.

Always the way in politics, especially as an election approaches. 

Same by all parties of course.

The "eat the rich" idea, old as the hills, breeds resentment, yet harms our society.

Perversely, the folk who proclaim themselves as genuinely "of the people" turn out to be as dodgy and self serving as those they pillory.

Always been the same, and maybe now voters have had enough.

A change to the orthodoxy as a result of repeatedly ignoring the concerns of voters. 

Sir Winston Churchill wasn't brought up in a poor environment, but was magnificent for the country in his time.

It shouldn't matter one iota what the background of a person is-just do the fucking job.

If Farage is to be the next leader- or anyone else- so long as they do what's needed then it doesn't matter.

What a load of utter shite. If Starmer had recieved a private donation of 5 million pounds from a Crypto billionaire who resides in Thailand you'd be screaming for his head on a plate.

[kent_white]

Starmer getting heckled in London today by a group of people shouting 'Keir Starmer - Jew Harmer'

FFS 🤣

[Spider]

6 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Starmer getting heckled in London today by a group of people shouting 'Keir Starmer - Jew Harmer'

FFS 🤣

Were those people Jews?

Edited 47 minutes ago by Spider