Ani Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: Despite the fact that Mounts would support it, TM's deal is worse that staying in so i would dismiss that as an option so 1. Remain 2. Leave with no deal So we do not have an option that works. Why is negotiate a better leave deal being ignored. As the political landscape changes so does the opportunity to negotiate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Hmmmm....read what I said fella. The EU leaders have stressed it needs to reform......... But...what have they done about it, other than the links I posted the other day ? Please try harder pal. To be fair to me - I'm hungover in McDonald's in London after a 3 day do and got excited and posted without reading your second sentence. I was also having a poo at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, kent_white said: To be fair to me - I'm hungover in McDonald's in London after a 3 day do and got excited and posted without reading your second sentence. I was also having a poo at the time. Well, that’s a silly thing to do isn’t it ? Consider yourself dismissed for being a silly, premature, EU loving squirt Hope your hangover is fucking awful pal haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 45 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: Let's see at the second referendum who was right😂 Are you sure that it will give you the result you presume? [just like last time] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: Did they? Are Labour and Tories now remain as well?? I've taken Tory and Labour votes out because it is not clear of the split. All parties which had a clear pro or anti brexit election manifesto gives 40-34 in favour of remain. Are you disagreeing with that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: Are you sure that it will give you the result you presume? [just like last time] They like to presume Malcolm. That's why they were so confounded on June 24, 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Farrelli said: I've taken Tory and Labour votes out because it is not clear of the split. All parties which had a clear pro or anti brexit election manifesto gives 40-34 in favour of remain. Are you disagreeing with that ? If it’s not clear then you can’t call it a true reflection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 26 minutes ago, Ani said: So we do not have an option that works. Why is negotiate a better leave deal being ignored. As the political landscape changes so does the opportunity to negotiate. Well that is up to the new Tory leader to negotiate but i had assumed the negotiating was over, we have a WA and it aint going to get any better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, Farrelli said: I've taken Tory and Labour votes out because it is not clear of the split. All parties which had a clear pro or anti brexit election manifesto gives 40-34 in favour of remain. Are you disagreeing with that ? Read what John Curtice says on the results. You them might get a more balanced view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: Are you sure that it will give you the result you presume? [just like last time] Well last night's vote was a clear Remain so it's a good an indication as anything we have seen in the last 3 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwen_white Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: Well that is up to the new Tory leader to negotiate but i had assumed the negotiating was over, we have a WA and it aint going to get any better No Deal is better than a bad deal and from what I'm seeing, it's only going one way now 🇬🇧 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 33 minutes ago, Farrelli said: I've taken Tory and Labour votes out because it is not clear of the split. All parties which had a clear pro or anti brexit election manifesto gives 40-34 in favour of remain. Are you disagreeing with that ? Are all Lib Dems, SNP and Green leave votes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: Well last night's vote was a clear Remain so it's a good an indication as anything we have seen in the last 3 years If the 2nd referendum happened and Leave won; would you abide with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 minute ago, boltondiver said: Are all Lib Dems, SNP and Green leave votes? 25% of SNP votes allegedly leavers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 Just now, boltondiver said: If the 2nd referendum happened and Leave won; would you abide with it? Interesting question isn't it. You'd imagine there'd be no coming back from 2-0. But they'd no doubt start papping on about "lies" and about how all us thickos were conned again. We've seen the true nature of these characters now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 37 minutes ago, Farrelli said: I've taken Tory and Labour votes out because it is not clear of the split. All parties which had a clear pro or anti brexit election manifesto gives 40-34 in favour of remain. Are you disagreeing with that ? Both Labour and Conservative GE manifestos were to leave, so you might as well bundle those up to “leave” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted May 27, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted May 27, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, boltondiver said: If the 2nd referendum happened and Leave won; would you abide with it? I would. Because it would be a result based on reality rather than lies. If the majority still want to Leave, knowing everything they know now, then so be it. It's not the actual result that us "Remoaners" find difficult to accept, it's the fact it was won by promising everyone a free unicorn, which dropped dead the day after the referendum, and the autopsy revealed it was actually a donkey with a dildo glued to its head. Edited May 27, 2019 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Cheese said: I would. Because it would be a result based on reality rather than lies. If the majority still want to Leave, knowing everything they know now, then so be it. It's not the actual result that us "Remoaners" find difficult to accept, it's the fact it was won by promising everyone a free unicorn, which dropped dead the day after the referendum. Ok Ps I don’t think I’ve ever called anyone that. Edited May 27, 2019 by boltondiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 This is just a straw poll, the new PM will be ‘if we can’t get a better deal we leave in October, with a temporary WTO Brexit’ if the EU don’t realise they HAVE to move to get a deal, then so be it, onwards and upwards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Moon boy said: This is just a straw poll, the new PM will be ‘if we can’t get a better deal we leave in October, with a temporary WTO Brexit’ if the EU don’t realise they HAVE to move to get a deal, then so be it, onwards and upwards How do we put WTO deal in place ? At the moment as far as I am aware there is not such a thing as a stand alone WTO deal. (This is just my understanding not arguing rights or wrongs of the approach) Edited May 27, 2019 by Ani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 41 minutes ago, boltondiver said: If the 2nd referendum happened and Leave won; would you abide with it? Of course, the decision would be based on the reality and not lies (on both sides) as it was in 2016 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 40 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Both Labour and Conservative GE manifestos were to leave, so you might as well bundle those up to “leave” Some interesting charts from this chap on the subject Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 As the remain camp like to make assumptions, it’s only fair the leave camp can. That’s me as my impartial self Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 minute ago, miamiwhite said: Some interesting charts from this chap on the subject You're pissing on a few lunchtime ham sandwiches here. I predict they won't like that chart one bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted May 27, 2019 Author Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 minute ago, paulhanley said: You're pissing on a few lunchtime ham sandwiches here. I predict they won't like that chart one bit. Guaranteed mate, but as they love to assume so much, then so can we and by using the correct party manifesto. We do like to deal in FACTS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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