e2e4 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: i think the best aspect of all this is the hardcore cancel culture warriors called for him to be sacked. These people won’t have a leg to stand on when they next bemoan someone being cancelled. The fact that Clarkson and Morgan have the intelligence to defend him speaks volumes. but people like morgan and clarkson dont get that being 'even' gets them nowhere. being the most moral corpse in the graveyard doesnt work. its not the greeks and italians "letting it go" after a war. they didnt give a fuck that morgan or clarkson lost their jobs. they got what they wanted. if it escalates more then maybe itll stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Spider said: I think - I’ll double check in a minute - but I think they’re a political party. And there’s many others. Why bring Labour into it? Anyway good job the guidance/rules whatever you want to call them weren’t around a few years earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted March 11, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 Was he breaking any impartiality guidance by calling out the language used recently? He didn't mention any specific policy did he? I think when you mention Germany it always blows up, even if he didn't mention the nazis specifically. That was the usual mob from the right wing press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted March 11, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 I’m still amazed at the reaction. Funny though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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e2e4 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, Winchester White said: Was he breaking any impartiality guidance by calling out the language used recently? He didn't mention any specific policy did he? I think when you mention Germany it always blows up, even if he didn't mention the nazis specifically. That was the usual mob from the right wing press. he werent refering to the wiermar republic , if he did mean that , he'd maybe possibly come to a different conclusion that really would get him canceled . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, Spider said: I’m still amazed at the reaction. Funny though. I know, fundamentally it's not great, but watching the meltdown is rather enjoyable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted March 11, 2023 Moderators Share Posted March 11, 2023 Not a fan of lineker, I've often had him down as someone who wants to be seen as being right on and saying the right thing without really thinking about what he's say Here though, is the issue really that he's expected l expressed a political opinion that supposedly goes against BBC guidelines, or is it just the reference to 1930s Germany? Had he not mentioned Germany would he be breaking guidelines and would anyone have been arsed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Zico said: Not a fan of lineker, I've often had him down as someone who wants to be seen as being right on and saying the right thing without really thinking about what he's say Here though, is the issue really that he's expected l expressed a political opinion that supposedly goes against BBC guidelines, or is it just the reference to 1930s Germany? Had he not mentioned Germany would he be breaking guidelines and would anyone have been arsed? Yes, the government would of. Plenty of political opinions get voiced, I mean there was a political message at the opening of the world cup. So you have to ask yourself, why this one?It's not difficult to see why it's blown up quite as it has Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, Zico said: Not a fan of lineker, I've often had him down as someone who wants to be seen as being right on and saying the right thing without really thinking about what he's say Here though, is the issue really that he's expected l expressed a political opinion that supposedly goes against BBC guidelines, or is it just the reference to 1930s Germany? Had he not mentioned Germany would he be breaking guidelines and would anyone have been arsed? Point is Lineker is being censored whilst others such as Neil, Sugar and the BBCs own chairman have not been at all despite showing far more political bias. Why? Because this government want to divide and conquer like they did with brexit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Farrelli said: Point is Lineker is being censored whilst others such as Neil, Sugar and the BBCs own chairman have not been at all despite showing far more political bias. Why? Because this government want to divide and conquer like they did with brexit. I think they've just managed the divide bit on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted March 11, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 35 minutes ago, Spider said: Pie on the money as usual. Folk more outraged at a tweet from ex footballer than Braverman's rhetoric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 54 minutes ago, royal white said: What have Labour got to do with anything? The guidance mate - all those 'rules' that you keep posting to show how simple all this is. It asks BBC staff to avoid taking party lines. You've just posted it to me again. Lineker didn't take a party stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Point is Lineker is being censored whilst others such as Neil, Sugar and the BBCs own chairman have not been at all despite showing far more political bias. Why? Because this government want to divide and conquer like they did with brexit. Did many complain when those mentioned mis tweeted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Zico said: Not a fan of lineker, I've often had him down as someone who wants to be seen as being right on and saying the right thing without really thinking about what he's say To be fair he's always had pretty strong views on how we should treat refugees. And he's backed that up by housing a number of refugees in his own home and the charities that he supports. Many will disagree with his opinion, which would be fair enough. But he's hardly your everyday virtue signaller who's calling things out and doing sod all about it. Edited March 11, 2023 by London Wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: I think they've just managed the divide bit on this one. That is usually where they start and then work from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e2e4 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Winchester White said: Pie on the money as usual. Folk more outraged at a tweet from ex footballer than Braverman's rhetoric. i cant believe he mentions 1930s germany in the first place. folk werent trying to get into germany on an innertube in 1939. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Just now, e2e4 said: i cant believe he mentions 1930s germany in the first place. folk werent trying to get into germany on an innertube in 1939. It is about the similarities in government language and rhetoric regarding immigrants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, royal white said: Did many complain when those mentioned mis tweeted? No idea and it is irrelevant anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Farrelli said: No idea and it is irrelevant anyway. Well its not, this has all come to light because of people complaining. Whether it be the public via social media or by MPs in parliament. If others are saying things which may offend yet no one is complaining it’s likely to get ignored. Edited March 11, 2023 by royal white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Farrelli said: No idea and it is irrelevant anyway. Classic RW whataboutery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 11 minutes ago, Farrelli said: That is usually where they start and then work from there Maybe, feels like they've jump the shark with this one though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted March 11, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 More and more are not working this weekend, Dion Dublin not doing 5live and Jason Mohammad not doing Final Score. It really has blown up big Time and it really is quite funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, DazBob said: Classic RW whataboutery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, Winchester White said: More and more are not working this weekend, Dion Dublin not doing 5live and Jason Mohammad not doing Final Score. It really has blown up big Time and it really is quite funny. It really is - the best bit is hearing folk getting in a tizzle arguing he should be sacked. Wonder why all his colleagues have stepped down if the guidance was so clear and simple? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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