Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 Just now, boltondiver said: I think that they were wrong; surely everyone is entitled to an opinion? As did the attorney general, a whole host of other political figures and a number of other judges. I envisage him chucking darts at pictures of Boris. Quote
Moon boy Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 1 minute ago, bwfcfan5 said: In effect saying our 11 most senior judges are wrong and he’s right. That’s not very far from saying politics is above the law. He has absolutely no place, no qualification and no position to question the judgement. And it’s a step on a slippery slope, one he’s very much near the bottom of already towards political interference in the judiciary. I note there are already noises about judges becoming political appointments. In effect 11 privileged unelected Remainer judges have invented a new law to overule the the PM of the present Government to prevent it carrying out the wishes of 17.4 million voters Quote
Jol_BWFC Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Moon boy said: In effect 11 privileged unelected Remainer judges have invented a new law to overule the the PM of the present Government to prevent it carrying out the wishes of 17.4 million voters Did you read that on Facebook? Quote
kent_white Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: You thought he did well? The consensus seems to be he’s completely lost it and his remarks re Jo Cox have pushed into a territory that leaves political commentators shocked. He’s a complete loose cannon. Entirely unfit for office. And tonight has simply confirmed he’s employing right wing populism verging on fascism. Rejecting the court verdict and in effect rejecting law. Can’t be having that is a good performance. Yes I thought he did well. I didn't see his remarks about Jo Cox though. What did he say? Quote
Guest Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Moon boy said: In effect 11 privileged unelected Remainer judges have invented a new law to overule the the PM of the present Government to prevent it carrying out the wishes of 17.4 million voters We’ve had all the dodgy bending of procedures by the remain Parliament and Boris tries a (very) little something and they throw everything at him. At us. The prorogation was 4 days longer than any other, I think, which doesn’t seem conclusive to a normal person. This is why Boris’s stock continues to rise. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Moon boy said: In effect 11 privileged unelected Remainer judges have invented a new law to overule the the PM of the present Government to prevent it carrying out the wishes of 17.4 million voters I wouldn't go that far; in fairness we don't know their brexit standing, and the government didn't help itself. That said a number of university political bods and MPs have highlighted a potential issue of lawmakers effectively directing political matters, which as you say raises an eyebrow with the regard to accountability as they are not elected. That point was put to Geoffrey Cox, and I was pleased that he suggested that he wasn't in favour of going down the route of electing judges. He did intimate however, that a new government may seek to create new law to supercede what they created. Or words to that effect. Quote
Guest Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, kent_white said: Yes I thought he did well. I didn't see his remarks about Jo Cox though. What did he say? He uses the nickname “Surrender Act”, which many would feel justified, but not the screechers. Oh and then said that a screechers response was “humbug” Shock, horror Edited September 25, 2019 by boltondiver Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, kent_white said: Yes I thought he did well. I didn't see his remarks about Jo Cox though. What did he say? I watched his statement. He didn't make any reference to her during it. Perhaps he said something in response to replies by Corbyn etc? Will have a look later. Quote
Jol_BWFC Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, boltondiver said: We’ve had all the dodgy bending of procedures by the remain Parliament and Boris tries a (very) little something and they throw everything at him. At us. The prorogation was 4 days longer than any other, I think, which doesn’t seem conclusive to a normal person. This is why Boris’s stock continues to rise. “At us”? So, you’re a firm believer that it’s the people Vs the establishment? Quote
kent_white Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 Apparently he said the best way to honour Jo Cox would be to get Brexit done. Probably not the wisest thing he's ever said but would depend on the context I suppose. Quote
Guest Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Jol_BWFC said: “At us”? So, you’re a firm believer that it’s the people Vs the establishment? Not necessarily, but I am of the view that it is the people v Parliament Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, boltondiver said: We’ve had all the dodgy bending of procedures by the remain Parliament and Boris tries a (very) little something and they throw everything at him. At us. The prorogation was 4 days longer than any other, I think, which doesn’t seem conclusive to a normal person. This is why Boris’s stock continues to rise. Cox highlighted several occasions of long prorogation events. One of around 3 months iirc.. To be honest though, what's done is done. Time to move on and get this sorted. Revisit the law in the next session. Quote
Guest Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, kent_white said: Yes I thought he did well. I didn't see his remarks about Jo Cox though. What did he say? Firstly in response to a Labour MP asking him to moderate his language given the number of MPs being threatened by the public and in light of Jo Cox’s murder he said that was a load of ‘humbug’. He then later said the best way to honour Jo Cox was to deliver Brexit. I mean even the most hardened politics commentators jaws dropped at that. Quote
Guest Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 I see Labour’s Shadow Brexit secretary has resigned. For family reasons, of course. Quote
kent_white Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Firstly in response to a Labour MP asking him to moderate his language given the number of MPs being threatened by the public and in light of Jo Cox’s murder he said that was a load of ‘humbug’. He then later said the best way to honour Jo Cox was to deliver Brexit. I mean even the most hardened politics commentators jaws dropped at that. He walked into that one then! Quote
Moon boy Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: Did you read that on Facebook? What’s that? Quote
ZiggyStardust Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 40 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: He has said the verdict was wrong. How on earth can a PM say that the highest court in the land is wrong? You cannot surely defend that? 3 of the highest judges in the land also said they was wrong. Are you saying that they don't know what they are talking about ? Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 43 minutes ago, boltondiver said: He hasn’t rejected the law nor the verdict. Its like you have your own little dreamworld He’s obviously reading some utter bollocks Labour website, rather than listening and making up his own mind. Quote
Salford Trotter Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 29 minutes ago, Moon boy said: In effect 11 privileged unelected Remainer judges have invented a new law to overule the the PM of the present Government to prevent it carrying out the wishes of 17.4 million voters You want to have elections to the Supreme Court now? 😂 How do you know they voted remain? Quote
Guest Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said: 3 of the highest judges in the land also said they was wrong. Are you saying that they don't know what they are talking about ? It’s not even as though the body called “Supreme Court” has been around forever. Not even 10 years. Probably invented by New Labour or summat Edited September 25, 2019 by boltondiver Quote
Guest Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 27 minutes ago, boltondiver said: I see Labour’s Shadow Brexit secretary has resigned. For family reasons, of course. Starmer has resigned? Fuck. Only one of their front bench I liked. Quote
Salford Trotter Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 1 minute ago, bwfcfan5 said: Starmer has resigned? Fuck. Only one of their front bench I liked. No he hasn't, it's just a member of the shadow cabinet that has resigned Quote
Guest Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 Matthew Pennycook Shadow Minister, it seems, rather than Secretary. Quote
mickbrown Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 42 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Firstly in response to a Labour MP asking him to moderate his language given the number of MPs being threatened by the public and in light of Jo Cox’s murder he said that was a load of ‘humbug’. He then later said the best way to honour Jo Cox was to deliver Brexit. I mean even the most hardened politics commentators jaws dropped at that. He made a prick of himself there. Quote
Moon boy Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 27 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: You want to have elections to the Supreme Court now? 😂 How do you know they voted remain? Just a hunch Quote
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